why do people come off TRT?

[kosp]

Just wondering, why are so many people coming off after many years and willing to martyrize themselves to recover?

Isn´t it all better on TRT? 2 pins a week of test c subq and live the best life? 200mg a week, excellent recovery and muscle mass, a lot of free test, high libido?

why are people coming off? Apart from obvious fertility reasons when you want to procreate with your partner, but you may come back after conception.

Why do people regret it?

 

[narta]

1) Those who started self administered TRT WAY too early in their life just to bnc
2) Want to have kids
3) Have image side effects that they can't handle (hair loss, acne)

 

[kosp]

1) Those who started self administered TRT WAY too early in their life just to bnc

So? What's the problem with that?

 

[VaDImadi]

I don't understand it either

The only reason I can think of is fertility

 

[narta]

So? What's the problem with that?

You have different life priorities on your 20s than on your 30s and 40s.

 

[kosp]

You have different life priorities on your 20s than on your 30s and 40s.

you pin your TRT dose and keep up with your priorities, you may not even going to the gym for a while, what does that have to do with it?

 

[kosp]

I was thinking more in the "honeymoon" phase of TRT, that it fades away and you have to be readjusting stuff all the time to get good libido and clean bloodwork. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Rido]

I was thinking more in the "honeymoon" phase of TRT, that it fades away and you have to be readjusting stuff all the time to get good libido and clean bloodwork. Correct me if I'm wrong.

You are wrong.


most people have this idea of being elite. Then they get tired of pinning every week or have legal limitations.

Just like people who go to the gym at the start, feel great. and then eventually get tired/stop.

some people also realize they are at the mercy of a needle and regret doing so.

 

[kosp]

Makes sense

 

[kosp]

some people also realize they are at the mercy of a needle and regret doing so.

if it's undecaonate every 3 weeks or test c subq that feels like nothing... that's not much of an inconvenience.

 

[Rido]

if it's undecaonate every 3 weeks or test c subq that feels like nothing... that's not much of an inconvenience.

In the US they don't have legal test U outside of clinics. It's not just doing the shit. It's accepting you need it. It's a control thing

 

[kosp]

In the US they don't have legal test U outside of clinics. It's not just doing the shit. It's accepting you need it. It's a control thing

Would a doctor ever accept that you are doing self-prescribed UGL TRT and gives you the bloodwork and support if needed?

 

[DECLAN]

There's also the realization that testosterone isn't magic, you still have to eat right and exercise. Most guys who quit trt don't really need it and are happy going back to being fat and comfy.

 

[Gigantic]

Because I was able to fix hypogonadism by taking HCG and clomid for 6 months, dropping it, and now I have more than 3x higher test naturally.

Still on a cycle right now to cut, then I’m probably done. I have no need for continuous cycles.

 

[Rido]

Would a doctor ever accept that you are doing self-prescribed UGL TRT and gives you the bloodwork and support if needed?

Some doctors won't.
Some still help offer supportive care. Varies

 

[kosp]

Because I was able to fix hypogonadism by taking HCG and clomid for 6 months, dropping it, and now I have more than 3x higher test naturally.

Still on a cycle right now to cut, then I’m probably done. I have no need for continuous cycles.

Those 3x higher test naturally are measured 3 months after last dose of SERMs?

 

[Gigantic]

Those 3x higher test naturally are measured 3 months after last dose of SERMs?

In my case, I think 2.5 months?

 

[Rido]

For the record. I know natural selection didnt select me. I'm ok with modern medicine and fixing my limitations

 

[kosp]

In my case, I think 2.5 months?

That's cool, I think after 6 weeks are legit results. How much TT did you do after the 6 month pct?

 

[kosp]

For the record. I know natural selection didnt select me. I'm ok with modern medicine and fixing my limitations

Fair enough, I am a spanish bull with above 800ng/dL, I don't want to cycle again and risk it.