Who here is on a statin?

[trtchin]

Im on 5 mg Crestor. I was able to reduce my LDL through diet and non statin supps from 144 to 87. 5 mg Rouvastatin dropped it from 87 to 60. Im going to add ezimibe to get a greater drop.

Only problem is that my HDL has been dropping along with it. Currently sitting at 34 on a 450 mg test blast. Im already on fish oil etc. Dont really want to take Niacin.

Would it make sense during my next blast to use Pitavastatin just while blasting to support HDL? Right now rouvastatin is free for me so not looking to switch fully to pitavastatin but perhaps it would make sense on cycle only?

 

[Ghoul]

Im on 5 mg Crestor. I was able to reduce my LDL through diet and non statin supps from 144 to 87. 5 mg Rouvastatin dropped it from 87 to 60. Im going to add ezimibe to get a greater drop.

Only problem is that my HDL has been dropping along with it. Currently sitting at 34 on a 450 mg test blast. Im already on fish oil etc. Dont really want to take Niacin.

Would it make sense during my next blast to use Pitavastatin just while blasting to support HDL? Right now rouvastatin is free for me so not looking to switch fully to pitavastatin but perhaps it would make sense on cycle only?

Niacin produces poor quality HDL so despite the number rising it’s either going to be useless or even harmful, since “bad” HDL is inflammatory. That’s why all the cardiology guidelines dropped it.

Pita raises HDL quantity AND increases quality. (For anyone curious, APO-I is the marker that indicates HDL quality).

Not sure what supps you’re using to lower cholesterol but I’m going to guess you could buy Pita with the money spent on them and get a better outcome.

Is one of them Red Yeast Rice?

 

[trtchin]

Niacin produces poor quality HDL so it’s either going to be useless or even harmful, since “bad” HDL is inflammatory.

Pita raises HDL quantity AND increases quality.

Not sure what supps you’re using to lower cholesterol but I’m going to guess you could buy Pita with the money spent on them and get a better outcome.

Is one of them Red Yeast Rice?

No.

- citrus bergamot 1500 mg per day
- fish oil 6g per day
- aged garlic
- psyllium husk 10-15g per day

Although aged garlic is more for heart health.

 

[Ghoul]

No.

- citrus bergamot 1500 mg per day
- fish oil 6g per day
- aged garlic
- psyllium husk 10-15g per day

Although aged garlic is more for heart health.

The citrus bergamot is basically a weak statin, with all the downsides of supplements (inconsistent results etc).

You could split 4mg pita tabs for roughly the same cost per dose and get 20x better results.

The rest of the supplements are helpful via other non-statin like mechanisms.

 

[trtchin]

The citrus bergamot is basically a weak statin, with all the downsides of supplements (inconsistent results etc).

You could split 4mg pita tabs for roughly the same cost per dose and get 20x better results.

The rest of the supplements are helpful via other non-statin like mechanisms.

Would i go off the 5 mg rouvastatin then? What is the equivalent dose of pitavastatin? I thought it was more like 1 mg pita to 5 mg rouvastatin

 

[Ghoul]

Would i go off the 5 mg rouvastatin then? What is the equivalent dose of pitavastatin? I thought it was more like 1 mg pita to 5 mg rouvastatin

2mg Pita is roughly equivalent to 5mg Rosu for LDL reduction.

Pita will be superior for protecting and raising HDL, and lower triglycerides more, It won’t negatively impact your insulin resistance and liver enzymes like Rosu does.

Obviously 4mg would do all these things to a greater degree. But if I had to choose whether to raise the Pita dose or add ezetimibe to improve lipids more, I’d add ezetimibe. It’s a completely unique way of lowering cholesterol (blocks reabsorption of liver produced cholesterol, where most of it comes from), and it blocks some dietary absorption as well. The thing is, some people are “hyper-absorbers” of dietary cholesterol, and this fairly weak, essentially side effect free, cheap med becomes a jackpot for them, dropping LDL far more than the extra 20% or so it usually does for most. In extreme cases as much as 80-90%. It also decouples the saturated fat to cholesterol pathway, so you decouple diet from cholesterol to a degree, giving you more flexibility in food choices without as much concern over impact on lipids.

 

[nullandvoid]

I'm glad I dropped the Niaspan/Niacin ER. It was obnoxious and would randomly produce intense flushing and irritation despite my best efforts to avoid taking it anywhere near fats. And that was just one gram. You're supposed to make efforts to take it to two grams. Just about out of Pravastatin and have Pita ready to go. Ezetimibe continues along with it.

 

[Isrrike]

Family doc put me on Simvastatin today. Said he has no problem prescribing repatha but governement needs to see two statins on my file not being tolerated. Should I even take it or call in a week and say it’s hurting my legs like I did with crestor

 

[Ghoul]

Family doc put me on Simvastatin today. Said he has no problem prescribing repatha but governement needs to see two statins on my file not being tolerated. Should I even take it or call in a week and say it’s hurting my legs like I did with crestor

That’s what I did, lol.

 

[Isrrike]

That’s what I did, lol.

Got him to switch me to telmissrtan from Ramipril as well lol.

 

[Ghoul]

Got him to switch me to telmissrtan from Ramipril as well lol.

Congrats on being an advocate for your own care, and being fortunate enough to have a cooperative doctor.

It makes a night and day difference in the quality of care, but most people won’t speak up (or even know what to ask for).

Doctors themselves acknowledge demanding patients get more attention and better outcomes.

 

[Isrrike]

Congrats on being an advocate for your own care, and being fortunate enough to have a cooperative doctor.

It makes a night and day difference in the quality of care, but most people won’t speak up (or even know what to ask for).

Doctors themselves acknowledge demanding patients get more attention and better outcomes.

My dr has been with me since he was a resident and I was 8 years old so we do have a some what personal relationship. He’s opened his own longevity clinic advocating for peptides and such as well so he’s definitely open to learning and exploring more modern methods. I am very thankful I basically can choose my prescription once we’ve diagnosed a problem. Hence my choice for nebivolol over carvedilol

 

[the_pope]

So I finally convinced my doctor to prescribe me statins. A few months ago he didn't want to because my lipids were fine off cycle, but I did another test recently and came up with elevated LDL (I took dbol just to raise it and get a prescription).

I asked for pita, but he said that he always recommends simvastatin, and that's what he prescribed. But I've read the comparison charts and simvastatin seems to be one of the statins with most negative side effects.

Should I visit him in a month or so and say that I'm experiencing myalgia? There's the possibility that telling him I'm prone to myalgia will cause him not to prescribe me any other statin. Any suggestion?

 

[Bob1990]

So I finally convinced my doctor to prescribe me statins. A few months ago he didn't want to because my lipids were fine off cycle, but I did another test recently and came up with elevated LDL (I took dbol just to raise it and get a prescription).

I asked for pita, but he said that he always recommends simvastatin, and that's what he prescribed. But I've read the comparison charts and simvastatin seems to be one of the statins with most negative side effects.

Should I visit him in a month or so and say that I'm experiencing myalgia? There's the possibility that telling him I'm prone to myalgia will cause him not to prescribe me any other statin. Any suggestion?

I used to be on Atorvastatin a while ago and I felt shit.. then I phoned in and said I don’t want this because I can’t function like this.
Then they only reduced the dose but kept me on atorvastatin. I just didn’t take it at all.
Phoned in after a month said the same and I am on Rosuvastatin at the moment.

It’s alright but I wish I could get Pita prescribe but in UK NHS cannot prescribe Pita for some reason..

But I would say wait a month and complain that you’re sore and got side effects might work depending on the doctors

 

[MoreShakesMoreCakes]

On Rosuvastatin 5mg EOD and 10mg Ezetimibe

 

[Ghoul]

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On Rosuvastatin 5mg EOD and 10mg Ezetimibe

What was LDL before?

 

[MoreShakesMoreCakes]

What was LDL before?

I’m not very consistent with the EOD dosing but I think the reduction came out decent. I’m trying to avoid some of the statin issues you’ve talked about so that’s why EOD.

 

[Ghoul]

I’m not very consistent with the EOD dosing but I think the reduction came out decent. I’m trying to avoid some of the statin issues you’ve talked about so that’s why EOD.

Still a massive improvement. The Ezetimebe really helps in a situation like this (low dose statin).

 

[RockyP]

I will be putting my lipid lowering regimen to the test in the next few weeks. Pulling bloods on test / tren / mast / var. Already poured one out for my HDL but I’m optimistic for LDL. Running 4 mg pita with 10 mg ezetimibe and 4 g vascepa. Never had high triglycerides before but added it due to the data showing that its positive impact was unrelated to its triglyceride lowering effect. Also it’s harmless / free of sides and covered by insurance.

Have Bemp acid on deck if needed. LDL was 63 on test / primo prior to starting tren / mast / var.

Oh and also on Reta 5 mg. Was on 3 mg previously / last labs. Have been in a caloric deficit for 5+ months with 10k steps, 30+ LISS daily, and 1.5-2 hours of intense weights 5 days per week.

 

[the_pope]

I used to be on Atorvastatin a while ago and I felt shit.. then I phoned in and said I don’t want this because I can’t function like this.
Then they only reduced the dose but kept me on atorvastatin. I just didn’t take it at all.
Phoned in after a month said the same and I am on Rosuvastatin at the moment.

It’s alright but I wish I could get Pita prescribe but in UK NHS cannot prescribe Pita for some reason..

But I would say wait a month and complain that you’re sore and got side effects might work depending on the doctors

Thanks for sharing.

Now that you mention it, I don't know if they can prescribe pita in my country. But I know they prescribe rosu, which seems superior to simvastatin. I think I'll wait, complain and try to get pita or rosuvastatin prescribed.