Which cycle would you choose?

[Juicedhead]

Continuing my bulk to 275lbs currently around 260lbs. heres my options

16 weeker.
test 750, eq 900, npp 300 or test 750, primo 525, npp 300. Which would you go with?

 

[BALLISTIC]

Honestly, both stacks can work, but the EQ option is going to be hit-or-miss depending on how you personally respond to boldenone. With that test and NPP, that EQ dose still seems unnecessarily high.

I personally don’t aromatize EQ efficiently, so it ends up lowering functional E2 instead of supporting it. When that happens I get the dry joints, lethargy, appetite issues, and that weird “off” feeling on cycle. Not ideal when you’re trying to push bodyweight.

For a straight bulk and decent results, the Test + Primo + NPP option is the more predictable and high-yield setup. Primo gives you clean, quality gains without the EQ dryness, and the NPP keeps joints, collagen, appetite, and recovery where they need to be when you start getting heavy.

Test at 750 drive the mass, Primo keeps you looking tight instead of sloppy, and NPP fills in everything EQ tends to make worse for a lot of guys, myself included.

So if the goal is to get to 275 with strength, appetite and recovery. I’d go Test 750 / Primo 525 / NPP 300. It’s a stronger synergy and a way safer bet for a consistent bulk.

All this if course not knowing your history with EQ and using my personal experience. Others will chime in and give they're thoughts I'm sure. Take what I said with a grain salt if you have previously been receptive in a positive way.

 

[Isrrike]

You running any gh?

 

[Juicedhead]

You running any gh?

yeah 10 iu

 

[Juicedhead]

Honestly, both stacks can work, but the EQ option is going to be hit-or-miss depending on how you personally respond to boldenone. With that test and NPP, that EQ dose still seems unnecessarily high.

I personally don’t aromatize EQ efficiently, so it ends up lowering functional E2 instead of supporting it. When that happens I get the dry joints, lethargy, appetite issues, and that weird “off” feeling on cycle. Not ideal when you’re trying to push bodyweight.

For a straight bulk and decent results, the Test + Primo + NPP option is the more predictable and high-yield setup. Primo gives you clean, quality gains without the EQ dryness, and the NPP keeps joints, collagen, appetite, and recovery where they need to be when you start getting heavy.

Test at 750 drive the mass, Primo keeps you looking tight instead of sloppy, and NPP fills in everything EQ tends to make worse for a lot of guys, myself included.

So if the goal is to get to 275 with strength, appetite and recovery. I’d go Test 750 / Primo 525 / NPP 300. It’s a stronger synergy and a way safer bet for a consistent bulk.

All this if course not knowing your history with EQ and using my personal experience. Others will chime in and give they're thoughts I'm sure. Take what I said with a grain salt if you have previously been receptive in a positive way.

The reason i was going to go with 900 eq is cuz i shoot 3ml 3x a week and that would be 300mg eq each shot. I dont go over 3ml 3x a week ever so its whatever i can get into that. The only thing im worried about with the primo is hair loss. Ive ran it before and loved it at 200mg a week. Eq I have ran but not that high, I do feel kind of off on it but Its not that bad. You think that much primo will cause hair loss?

 

[Isrrike]

I’d up the test to 1000 400 primo 300 npp and some insulin

 

[BALLISTIC]

The reason i was going to go with 900 eq is cuz i shoot 3ml 3x a week and that would be 300mg eq each shot. I dont go over 3ml 3x a week ever so its whatever i can get into that. The only thing im worried about with the primo is hair loss. Ive ran it before and loved it at 200mg a week. Eq I have ran but not that high, I do feel kind of off on it but Its not that bad. You think that much primo will cause hair loss?

Honestly, I don’t know with the Primo…

I personally don’t have any history of issues between AAS and my hairline. Truthfully, it’s just lucky genetics, every male and female in my family has kept thick, full hair their entire lives. So I don’t want to BS you. Typically, if you’re prone to hair loss, Primo won’t make it better.

As far as the EQ goes, I understand your reasoning completely; oil volume gets daunting.

EQ has always been a go to for me until recently. Much like your first listed option, on a recent cycle where I ran into issues, I was using 750 TSust, 600 EQ, 600 NandroD, 400 MastE, and 8 IU GH. I eventually dropped the EQ, figuring it was the problem, and within about a week and a half I was feeling great again.

The EQ disrupted my E2 aggressively. My joints became crunchy/noisy, the lethargy (overall laziness except for lifting) was strong, and my strength was steadily dropping with general weakness and fatigue. This happened even with Test and Deca at those doses. It was followed by an overall depressive mood, but I’ve never had an issue with N-19 compounds. So I guessed at the EQ and was right.

Interestingly enough, I’ve previously run this exact lineup several times and received nothing but benefit. EQ will directly compete with Test for aromatase, since both use the same enzyme. EQ eventually wins because it aromatizes slowly but aggressively. My E2 looked reasonable in labs, but that’s common with EQ since it converts into nasty E1. Age or tolerance may be catching up to me.

If you give it a go, let me know. I’d like to follow up on how you’re doing midway through. Hopefully this info gives you something to think about in case a similar situation comes up for you.

I’m around your stature 6'2" and sitting at 255 currently. I’ve also been pushing to eventually reach 275.

 

[Guzmanus]

I hear you on the oil volume, that's always a consideration. I've been burned by EQ before too – felt great at first, then the joint pain and lethargy crept in. Dropping it made a world of difference. As for the Primo, I'm always a little worried about hair, even though I haven't had major issues myself. Maybe start a little lower and see how it goes?

 

[Cyp180]

Continuing my bulk to 275lbs currently around 260lbs. heres my options

16 weeker.
test 750, eq 900, npp 300 or test 750, primo 525, npp 300. Which would you go with?

500mg test
200mg NPP
400 EQ

 

[Isrrike]

Honestly, I don’t know with the Primo…

I personally don’t have any history of issues between AAS and my hairline. Truthfully, it’s just lucky genetics, every male and female in my family has kept thick, full hair their entire lives. So I don’t want to BS you. Typically, if you’re prone to hair loss, Primo won’t make it better.

As far as the EQ goes, I understand your reasoning completely; oil volume gets daunting.

EQ has always been a go to for me until recently. Much like your first listed option, on a recent cycle where I ran into issues, I was using 750 TSust, 600 EQ, 600 NandroD, 400 MastE, and 8 IU GH. I eventually dropped the EQ, figuring it was the problem, and within about a week and a half I was feeling great again.

The EQ disrupted my E2 aggressively. My joints became crunchy/noisy, the lethargy (overall laziness except for lifting) was strong, and my strength was steadily dropping with general weakness and fatigue. This happened even with Test and Deca at those doses. It was followed by an overall depressive mood, but I’ve never had an issue with N-19 compounds. So I guessed at the EQ and was right.

Interestingly enough, I’ve previously run this exact lineup several times and received nothing but benefit. EQ will directly compete with Test for aromatase, since both use the same enzyme. EQ eventually wins because it aromatizes slowly but aggressively. My E2 looked reasonable in labs, but that’s common with EQ since it converts into nasty E1. Age or tolerance may be catching up to me.

If you give it a go, let me know. I’d like to follow up on how you’re doing midway through. Hopefully this info gives you something to think about in case a similar situation comes up for you.

I’m around your stature 6'2" and sitting at 255 currently. I’ve also been pushing to eventually reach 275.

Did you donate blood on eq or get a cbc?

 

[Slowww]

Test Eq npp easily. Solid cycle for a push phase. If you don’t react with sides much for EQ it will be easy, & will definitely get strong af too

 

[BALLISTIC]

Did you donate blood on eq or get a cbc?

Never had an issue, I typically stay heavily hydrated and cardio daily. Labs always look good in that respect.

 

[F41l0r1337]

Continuing my bulk to 275lbs currently around 260lbs. heres my options

16 weeker.
test 750, eq 900, npp 300 or test 750, primo 525, npp 300. Which would you go with?

matters on your bloods

hct already high? take primo
LDL already high? take EQ

also E2 levels etc..

may rather take some GH in

 

[RockyP]

matters on your bloods

hct already high? take primo
LDL already high? take EQ

also E2 levels etc..

may rather take some GH in

Primo is actually still approved for treatment of anemia in some areas of the world, so I would not say it is benign for HCT. In general probably less of an impact than EQ, but it's very dependent upon the individual. I think stacking nandrolone and EQ is likely to have a synergistic impact on raising HCT. Some guys HCT actually dropped on EQ (but that could be due to other issues).

I vote for Test / Primo / nandrolone - great combination, always good to to have a DHT in there when running a 19-nor.

 

[Zc7219]

EQ for sure.

Primo sucks. Ruins my lipids, raises HCT more than EQ for me.

lol @ the post saying it’ll keep you tight. Literally an AI will do the exact same thing.

 

[F41l0r1337]

personally
-i also dont like the prolactin / high e2 rollercoaster and depressions/mood/ shitty drive from 19-nors.. i want to have that good mood pushing weights etc.. but its also individuall

 

[Juicedhead]

primo it is. I will start at 300mg and slowly push to 525mg. Thanks for the input.

 

[Juicedhead]

I hear you on the oil volume, that's always a consideration. I've been burned by EQ before too – felt great at first, then the joint pain and lethargy crept in. Dropping it made a world of difference. As for the Primo, I'm always a little worried about hair, even though I haven't had major issues myself. Maybe start a little lower and see how it goes?

"Yeah dude and thats why when dudes like chase irons or whoever else run 5 gram cycles im thinking where the fuck are you putting all of that its just insane to me that you would inject that much gear and be like "Oh yeah everyone is doing this" The injecting schedule alone would kill me.