What is your opinion on Vigorous Steve?

3. someone sent him a question for like $XX and it accidently sent twice.
and he just laughed and pocketed the money.

Then later he will go on about being a high income bitcoin investment professional and act like he's above everyone.

Unfortunately I did not record it, but he once started a livestream with non drug/bodybuilding questions, only lifestyle questions. Quite a lot of poor fellows started asking drug questions and sent money, he told them to go fuck themselves and that he is sick and tired of them and pointed the middle finger to the camera multiple times telling everyone who disagrees with him to go fuck themselves too. He took the livestream down within minutes.

He seems to have a hard time relating with his viewer base.

If you watch his old videos, he talks in a completely different tone and attitude towards his viewers.

Nowadays I have blocked his videos because I am too old to listen to a grown man putting people down for asking a question. Nearly all of his livestreams he will ridicule people and his moderators even harass chat members with remarks about their mothers.

Before he became this vile, when confronted about factual errors, he would delete chat messages and comments on videos. That's a serious character flaw.

I can't say there's anything special to learn from him. When you don't have time to sit down and read through articles and then dig deeper into studies, his videos on pretty much all compounds are an asset as you can listen through it and if needed later dig deep into studies for specific information you need.

i don't think YouTube is the correct platform for learning anything more than the basics of this stuff, so understandably creators will cater to what viewers want to see, and thus we will see this version of Steve which may not be at all what you would encounter when meeting him in real life.

Also the liver king story has buried his name. Bodybuilders have been lying about being natural and only using "dat dere creatine" or "cell tech" forever yet nobody cares. What people should care is that someone became jealous of their own client and leaked private information. Gut wrenching stuff, makes you think twice before ever hiring a coach.
 
But chase atleast uses his products, not like mark plummer and tony huge who promote shitty sarms to kids.

I think chase gives pretty good advice.
Coach greg too, decent advice, just dropped every AAS for turkesterone im gonna get fking huge.
Go easy that Turk is strong stuff
 
Unfortunately I did not record it, but he once started a livestream with non drug/bodybuilding questions, only lifestyle questions. Quite a lot of poor fellows started asking drug questions and sent money, he told them to go fuck themselves and that he is sick and tired of them and pointed the middle finger to the camera multiple times telling everyone who disagrees with him to go fuck themselves too. He took the livestream down within minutes.

He seems to have a hard time relating with his viewer base.

If you watch his old videos, he talks in a completely different tone and attitude towards his viewers.

Nowadays I have blocked his videos because I am too old to listen to a grown man putting people down for asking a question. Nearly all of his livestreams he will ridicule people and his moderators even harass chat members with remarks about their mothers.

Before he became this vile, when confronted about factual errors, he would delete chat messages and comments on videos. That's a serious character flaw.

I can't say there's anything special to learn from him. When you don't have time to sit down and read through articles and then dig deeper into studies, his videos on pretty much all compounds are an asset as you can listen through it and if needed later dig deep into studies for specific information you need.

i don't think YouTube is the correct platform for learning anything more than the basics of this stuff, so understandably creators will cater to what viewers want to see, and thus we will see this version of Steve which may not be at all what you would encounter when meeting him in real life.

Also the liver king story has buried his name. Bodybuilders have been lying about being natural and only using "dat dere creatine" or "cell tech" forever yet nobody cares. What people should care is that someone became jealous of their own client and leaked private information. Gut wrenching stuff, makes you think twice before ever hiring a coach.
I can't believe people would pay the hourly rates he says he charges (~2k per hour I think) just to get his answers spit out by perplexity.ai.

If he makes so much money off bitcoin like he says, why does he put so much effort into pulling money from youtube and research chem sites?
 
I can't believe people would pay the hourly rates he says he charges (~2k per hour I think) just to get his answers spit out by perplexity.ai.

If he makes so much money off bitcoin like he says, why does he put so much effort into pulling money from youtube and research chem sites?
money is money , the more sources you pull from , the MORE money you make, why only have one source of income if you can have 2-3-4 ,,
 
But chase atleast uses his products, not like mark plummer and tony huge who promote shitty sarms to kids.

I think chase gives pretty good advice.
Coach greg too, decent advice, just dropped every AAS for turkesterone im gonna get fking huge.
Both of those guys are losers lol.
 
He lives off his wifes earnings as a personal trainer to the hiso crowd in Bangkok. Thats why he encouraged her to take steroids and compete. He used to talk about their journey to have a baby and how his sperm was in great shape as he used his own pct protocols. No baby though.
 
He lives off his wifes earnings as a personal trainer to the hiso crowd in Bangkok. Thats why he encouraged her to take steroids and compete. He used to talk about their journey to have a baby and how his sperm was in great shape as he used his own pct protocols. No baby though.
She is pregnant now
He gets all upity when his viewer's try and give baby advice
Not that I blame him but still come across as a twat
 
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