What daily supplements do use recommend.

[Hayes88]

Sorry for hijacking the thread a little on the topic, but what do you guys take to keep kidneys (not liver) values down while taking so much stuff? Mine spikes so easy regardless of water intake....

I started of with a bunch of stuff but messed up my acid or kidneys.

However, what I still take and what I feel works, not just hope is:
- Vitamin D3 in liquid form (highly recommended, many can't absorb it enough via food intake, tabs, or sun).
- Magnesium Taurate+ and Magnesium Lysinate Glycinate.
- Potassium Gluconate.
- Omega 3
- Cialis

 

[Inspired]

I’ve taken Juice Plus for most of my adult life for that very reason. But just recently I have decided to finally grow much of my own food. In the last few weeks I got several kinds of fruit trees planted and a chicken coop almost built. I’ll have herbs and vegetables planted in spring. Also bringing in ducks for the eggs and bug control. This time next year I will have about 3.5 acres of quality soil being used for food production. I’ve been sensing it’s time to become less dependent on the commercial market for several years now. These last few years with the shutdowns and supply chain issues have me wishing I would have started all this years ago.

But yeah, today’s commercial meat and produce is a far cry from what God intended for us for both the nutritional value and overall experience of food. I’d even go as far as to say it’s harmful with all the pesticides and the toxicities produced in factory slaughterhouse meats. We have just been conditioned over time with these poisons. Most people have no idea how they are being affected by it either. Including myself until semi recently.

You and I are thinking the exact same thing! I'm really happy to hear this. I'm looking for land right now, and but I don't know where I want to go. I'm looking at the hardiness zones and wondering what's the best location for this.

My goal is to build a big green house or maybe a few green houses. You should consider building a green house also because it's the only way to guarantee clean food. I'm not sure where you are but the chemtrails/spraying from the sky are poisoning the food, and it seems to be happening worldwide. Chemtrails are one of the biggest "in your face things" that are happening.
I'm very concerned about what they're spraying and it's amazing how they keep what is essentially, the biggest and most expensive project in history, a secret.

Homesteading is the future.

My goal is to grow root vegetables like potatos and onions, ginger. They are easy to grow, and they are underground and somewhat shielded, so that makes them safer. I'm going to grow garlic, which is also extremely easy. I'd get a cow for milk, but I would prefer if I could buy milk off of a neighbor that is maybe already doing the same thing. A cow is a big commitment and one cow produces a lot of milk everyday. And when the cow gets old, I'm not going to kill the cow, let's be real: it would be like a pet. The chickens are the way to go. The eggs can be the main food source.

I want to grow apples, plums, oranges, bananas etc. Some of these dwarf tropical fruit trees can grow in non tropical hardiness zones but it's tricky.

You have to get sacks of nutrients and put them in them in the soil. The minerals especially. Just adding Borax to dirt will take care of boron.

I've done the math and by homesteading, I'd actually be savings money and I know where it comes from. Most importantly, self sufficiency and being able to do this will be the key to survival. Your instincts are spot on.

I'm going to have to check out the Juice Plus.

 

[Inspired]

What exactly is different about the nutritional content of today's food vs food in the past? Specifically whole, unprocessed food. What is it lacking?

The nutritional content has drastically changed. The soil is depleted everywhere and modern farm practices are good at making that juicy vegetable look great due to genetic engineering but most importantly, the fertilizer will make a plant grow strong and fast, but be nutritionally "empty". Of course, it depends where you live because there are going to be regional differences. Some crops are affected more than others. There are some really good studies online. I share a picture I have. I'll see if I could find the studies.

 

[Inspired]

It works for what?

My experience says supplementation works. I've recommended a lot of products and given a lot of advice, so I've seen people start taking a supplement and then it has improved or corrected something for them.

It works for me on a personal level. I feel really good, and I feel that way when I am taking them. I've slacked off before and I noticed I didn't feel as good. Then I start again, and it takes some time, but everything starts to improve. I am not that old, but I haven't aged physically at all. I look young. Everyone I know fell apart or is falling apart, and I've stayed the same. One thing that must contribute to this is that I always took vitamins, not always consistently, but I think periods of "loading up" on vitamins can have a staying effect.

There's no way I could get this nutrition from the food I eat.

 

[Inspired]

Why so much vitamin K ?

Different forms with different half lives cover all of my K needs. The ultra K supplement has vitamin K1 which contributes to the blood's ability to clot. K2 helps keep calcium out of arteries and tissues, and instead put towards bone. It does other things too. The K2 MK7 has the longest half life and is the insurance policy. The MK4 is used in high doses to do a lot of things but it has a very short half life but it is powerful. I've decided to it this way based off of a lot of studies. I'd have to go quite a bit deeper to explain the exact thinking behind it.

 

[Demondosage]

If I had real food grown 60 years ago, maybe you'd have a point. But food has barely any nutrition these days. And even if I had the good food, there's no way to get everything you need, day after day. Forget it. So yeah, you better supplement.

I've been doing this for a long time. It works.

You’re falling victim to the theory of “super-nutrition” which doesn’t exist, only adequate nutrition. The labwork is the true marker of a deficiency and there are plenty of people with great labwork that do none of these supplements and get it from food, yes even the foods we have now. You’re wasting your money, but if you feel like it works then have at it

 

[Inspired]

You’re falling victim to the theory of “super-nutrition” which doesn’t exist, only adequate nutrition. The labwork is the true marker of a deficiency and there are plenty of people with great labwork that do none of these supplements and get it from food, yes even the foods we have now. You’re wasting your money, but if you feel like it works then have at it

I'm gonna disagree with you.

Let's begin with the RDA (recommended daily allowance). How did they determine what the RDA should be? You have to go to each individual substance and look what experiments were done. The RDA is wrong about everything and if you follow their recommendations, it won't lead to good health.

Lab work isn’t enough and the tests aren't that good at determining nutritional status. Blood work can tell you serum status, but that's a snapshot of just one thing.

 

[Jbagel132]

The American Heart Association is a fake organization and that data is bad. Saturated fat is actually the good fat and you should be eating that fat. It's important.

Saturated fats and cardiovascular health: Current evidence and controversies - PubMed

A diet high in saturated fatty acids (SFA) is a suspected contributor to atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease (ASCVD) risk, in large part because of an effect to raise the low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL-C) concentration. Most dietary guidance from health authorities advocates...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Never said to have NO saturated fats, you need them. Just not 100 grams of them.

 

[Hayes88]

You’re falling victim to the theory of “super-nutrition” which doesn’t exist, only adequate nutrition. The labwork is the true marker of a deficiency and there are plenty of people with great labwork that do none of these supplements and get it from food, yes even the foods we have now. You’re wasting your money, but if you feel like it works then have at it

Agreed! I have a friend who experiments a lot here and uses his own body to increase mental capacity, longlivity, even sexual heights. While he has gained a lot of knowledge, it has come of a great cost and no "proven" benefits so far. Me myself has read a lot as well and while there is information out there stating that a certain ratio of something something can (potentially) give a certain benefit, I still believe balance is key and enough food intake is key. I said "enough" instead of "healthy" since I believe we can get away with a lot and still depending on genetics and circumstance live longer and healthier than most who are extremely into what they consume. Well, with some mind in choices of course.

We humans have never had it as good as now (at least in countries developed enough), if our ancestors could live on seeds and furry animals, I believe we shouldn't worry so much as long as we consume enough.

There is truth that many sources are not as nutri-dense, but a lot of sources are over-consumed and we are feeding us more than ever.

 

[Inspired]

Saturated fats and cardiovascular health: Current evidence and controversies - PubMed

A diet high in saturated fatty acids (SFA) is a suspected contributor to atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease (ASCVD) risk, in large part because of an effect to raise the low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL-C) concentration. Most dietary guidance from health authorities advocates...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Never said to have NO saturated fats, you need them. Just not 100 grams of them.

They are wrong. Here's a study that summarizes why. There are a lot better studies. Think the opposite of what the government or authorities tell you, it's more often the truth. Saturated fat is heart protective and good for you. Polyunsaturated fats, which are pushed onto the public as healthy, are bad for you.

Dietary Saturated Fats and Health: Are the U.S. Guidelines Evidence-Based? - PMC

The last decade has seen nearly 20 papers reviewing the totality of the data on saturated fats and cardiovascular outcomes, which, altogether, have demonstrated a lack of rigorous evidence to support continued recommendations either to limit the ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Rido]

The American Heart Association is a fake organization and that data is bad. Saturated fat is actually the good fat and you should be eating that fat. It's important.

Uhh it's fake?

 

[Jbagel132]

They are wrong. Here's a study that summarizes why. There are a lot better studies. Think the opposite of what the government or authorities tell you, it's more often the truth. Saturated fat is heart protective and good for you. Polyunsaturated fats, which are pushed onto the public as healthy, are bad for you.

Dietary Saturated Fats and Health: Are the U.S. Guidelines Evidence-Based? - PMC

The last decade has seen nearly 20 papers reviewing the totality of the data on saturated fats and cardiovascular outcomes, which, altogether, have demonstrated a lack of rigorous evidence to support continued recommendations either to limit the ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So then McDonald’s, Burger King, Taco Bell, and the rest of the fast food joints are actually looking out for my health and I should be eating more of it right? Gotcha.

 

[Inspired]

So then McDonald’s, Burger King, Taco Bell, and the rest of the fast food joints are actually looking out for my health and I should be eating more of it right? Gotcha.

Go look at their nutrition data. Saturated fat is not the thing to worry about. Everything else is.

 

[Rido]

I have to agree with the saturated fat intake. The data is old and misunderstood. The selection of food that saturated fats is associated with in most of our minds is fast food.(if you are not aware about nutritional content).


This is similar to red meat and stomach cancers. They used the worst source of red meat. Hot dogs, processed meats, etc.


Then you have countries in Europe who do consume a high saturated fat content. Butter, cheese, etc. Low risk of heart issue



Guidelines from AHA maybe old but it's not a fake organization.

 

[Inspired]

Agreed! I have a friend who experiments a lot here and uses his own body to increase mental capacity, longlivity, even sexual heights. While he has gained a lot of knowledge, it has come of a great cost and no "proven" benefits so far. Me myself has read a lot as well and while there is information out there stating that a certain ratio of something something can (potentially) give a certain benefit, I still believe balance is key and enough food intake is key. I said "enough" instead of "healthy" since I believe we can get away with a lot and still depending on genetics and circumstance live longer and healthier than most who are extremely into what they consume. Well, with some mind in choices of course.

We humans have never had it as good as now (at least in countries developed enough), if our ancestors could live on seeds and furry animals, I believe we shouldn't worry so much as long as we consume enough.

There is truth that many sources are not as nutri-dense, but a lot of sources are over-consumed and we are feeding us more than ever.

Your marijuana use is getting in the way of living in reality. Your posts have no substance. Just pothead jibberish. I know you followed me here to disagree with me, or agree with someone who disagrees with me. Wierd, but ok.

 

[Inspired]

I have to agree with the saturated fat intake. The data is old and misunderstood. The selection of food that saturated fats is associated with in most of our minds is fast food.(if you are not aware about nutritional content).


This is similar to red meat and stomach cancers. They used the worst source of red meat. Hot dogs, processed meats, etc.


Then you have countries in Europe who do consume a high saturated fat content. Butter, cheese, etc. Low risk of heart issue



Guidelines from AHA maybe old but it's not a fake organization.

AHA isn't an authority on anything but it's presented as being the Supreme Ruler and truth bringer of heart health. In reality, because of that, it was described as "fake". It is a real organization, and it causes real damage.

 

[Rido]

AHA isn't an authority on anything but it's presented as being the Supreme Ruler and truth bringer of heart health. In reality, because of that, it was described as "fake". It is a real organization, and it causes real damage.

real damage?


uhh

 

[EatClen/TrenHard]

Supplements are not only more important than ever, but they are essential to survival. Nearly all food grown and produced nowadays has too little nutrients. Our nutrition requirements are much higher than ever because of the amount of toxins we have to detox on a daily basis.

For anyone wanting to keep it simple, a good multivitamin can help you meet the bare minimum that you need. It's a must have.

I copied my answer from another thread. With some changes.

This is what I try to take consistently. It doesn't always happen. I take a lot of supplements but I've been fine tuning this list for a long time, and this is what my body does well with. I also take more things. I like to experiment.

I have big vitamin organizers and I make my daily doses for like a month at a time, or longer.

These are minimum doses, and often times I go higher. I also buy powders and make my own capsules to avoid unnecessary fillers that often come in ready filled capsules.

These supplements are expensive, but it's investing in yourself, so it's worth it. You have to watch out for sales, and buy in bulk.

Brands I like:

You always have to read the labels, and see if and what fillers are used. Sometimes those fillers are needed and sometimes they're not.

Life Extension (I take their Multivitamins. I use the Mix Capsules which is 12 capsules a day. I also take their Two Per day multi when I can't take 12 capsules. I use many of their products, and I trust this brand).
Now Foods, Natural Factors (they make the best Liposomal Quercetin and also good and best priced CoQ10 Ubiquinol), Source Naturals, some Swanson products (like their Olive Leaf). Cardiovascular Research for their Magnesium Taurate. I like many more brands.

Anti-aging:
Niacinamide 500mg or smaller doses of powder in water, to keep NAD+ levels topped up.
Apigenin, in the form of dried Parsley powder, that I put in capsules.
Quercetin.
Metformin or Berberine, when I am eating a lot of carbs or not exceeding, and depending on what I'm eating, and what phase I'm going through. It's variable.

Ribose: 2-10 grams in water.

Amino acids:
Taurine 1-6 grams.
Acetyl-L-Carnitine 6g
Lysine 2g (for supposed antiviral effects, although I don't have any viruses, but the evidence suggests it's worth taking).
Tyrosine 500mg
Glycine 5g (we all have glycine deficiency. It's super important for gut, nervous system everything etc).
Glutamine 5g

Antioxidant support:
Vitamin C (amount depending on what I use). I prefer a few grams of sodium Ascorbate mixed in my drink, several times throughout the day. I also make Liposomal Vitamin C, and I take shots throughout the day.

2 Vitamin E-400
1 Lycopene 50mg
3 Beta Carotene 25,000 iu (for skin)
1 Lutein mix 30mg lutein, 9mg meso, 6mg zeazanthin) (for eyes and skin).
1 Astaxanthin 12mg (for skin and sun protection).
1 Coq10 100mg (Ubiquinol)
1 PQQ 20mg
1 Liposomal Quercetin 250mg
2 Benfotiamine 150mg

Vitamin K:
2 K2 MK7 200
1 Ultra K mix of K's
K2 MK4 drops.

Vitamin D (Except during summer, I take 10,000iu D per day)


Minerals:
3 Boron 3mg
1 OptiZinc
1 Magnesium Taurate 125mg (I find Magnesium Taurate is the BEST form for me. But I also take other forms depending on my needs or what I have. I take magnesium glycinate, threonate for brain, and citrate for laxative effect).

Copper Bisglycinate 3-9mg (if I use a lot if zinc, I go higher on the copper to correct or prevent deficiency. I take this separately from everything else I take, so it has a chance to absorb).

1 Carnosine 500mg
3 MSM 1,000mg
4 DMG 125mg (alternatively, TMG 1g)
2 Choline Inositol 250mg (if I don't eat eggs, I double the dose).

Other addons:
Lugol's iodine 5 drops of 5% and 200-400mcg Selenium to protect thyroid.
Lithium Orotate 5mg-15mg to preserve brain.
NAC 600-1800mg for overall glutathione support.
DHEA 5mg.
Sunflower Lecithin, sometimes. I use it for choline or to make my own Liposomal products, like Liposomal vitamin C.

Morning stack sometimes:
Cognitex Elite with and without Pregnenolone.
Dopa Mucuna
Olive Leaf Extract 750mg
Bacopa
OPC's
Ginkgo Biloba
Probiotic


I also try to drink a glass of water with a scoop of baking soda either 2 hours before or 2 hours after I take my morning stack.


To help digest everything:
2 Betaine HCL
1 Bioperine

You're a very knowledgeable member. Thank you for contributing so much to the forum. High effort high IQ post

 

[Hayes88]

Your marijuana use is getting in the way of living in reality. Your posts have no substance. Just pothead jibberish. I know you followed me here to disagree with me, or agree with someone who disagrees with me. Wierd, but ok.

Says the guy who becomes more and more disliked by the members of the entire board. Personal attacks do very little and now you think you are as important to think I give an inkling about you or your feelings. Each and every topic you enter you discredit proof and facts and go more and more into a dangerous misinformed path called confirmation bias.
The pothead isn't me, it's you, but to be fair I would rather be a pothead than a narcissistic delusional a-hole, but to each their own.

Additionally, your "way" of living is to discredit the entire social structure since everyone is wrong and you hail lord is correct.

Like another member here said, some people just needs to get laid (implied you here), but I doubt that will ever happen in your case.

Well actually, you could print some of those studies you have, scramble them up with some tape and maybe make a paper-form woman. Though I fear even she would reject your advances.

 

[Inspired]

Says the guy who becomes more and more disliked by the members of the entire board. Personal attacks do very little and now you think you are as important to think I give an inkling about you or your feelings. Each and every topic you enter you discredit proof and facts and go more and more into a dangerous misinformed path called confirmation bias.
The pothead isn't me, it's you, but to be fair I would rather be a pothead than a narcissistic delusional a-hole, but to each their own.

Additionally, your "way" of living is to discredit the entire social structure since everyone is wrong and you hail lord is correct.

Like another member here said, some people just needs to get laid (implied you here), but I doubt that will ever happen in your case.

Well actually, you could print some of those studies you have, scramble them up with some tape and maybe make a paper-form woman. Though I fear even she would reject your advances.

You followed me to this conversation, and quoted and replied to another person who criticized my nutrition philosophy.

You followed me like an ex girlfriend. You're upset because you're a snowflake hippy who can't hear anything slightly critical or that goes against their own preferences.

If anyone is wondering, this guy claimed he may have paranoid schizophrenia and he was asking for help after he was getting violent with his girlfriend and he said he was seeing shadows and having hallucinations.

I told him he may want to avoid hallucinogenic drugs, like marijuana, and he lost his mind at that response. So now he doesn't like me. Ok.