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narta said:
Because they believe in the one and only truth, that is de voided of scientific facts and is based on conspiracy theories.

Plus they are vegan level obnoxious.

On topic,

Family history on BP?
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Family history of BP yes. High blood pressure issues both ways.
But they definitely weren’t fit or active.

Which doesn’t matter sometimes. It seems I’m genetically blessed with it as well.

6’3 225 leaner side of things.
I do manual labor, train as a fire fighter & body builder. So I’m definitely not out of shape
 
Tbaz192 said:
Family history of BP yes. High blood pressure issues both ways.
But they definitely weren’t fit or active.

Which doesn’t matter sometimes. It seems I’m genetically blessed with it as well.

6’3 225 leaner side of things.
I do manual labor, train as a fire fighter & body builder. So I’m definitely not out of shape
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You said you snore and your g/f has to check to see if your breathing sometimes?? Apnea can cause a crap ton of sides, especially with the heart. Poor rest will drive the BP up also. Have you had a sleep study or is it a test they are gonna try?
 
Bigoldguy said:
You said you snore and your g/f has to check to see if your breathing sometimes?? Apnea can cause a crap ton of sides, especially with the heart. Poor rest will drive the BP up also. Have you had a sleep study or is it a test they are gonna try?
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Her checking on me breathing is more so her being anxious probably, but yeah I’ll be getting a sleep study done too
 
narta said:
Doesn't matter. Fucking genetics. Trust me. I eat pretty clean for a gymrat with family but still battle with high-ish a1c due to shitty genetics. I blast high-er doses but my BP is 125/65 with minimal meds

F genetics man....
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Yeah my mother got her thyroid removed when I was a kid. Can’t remember why.

So I’m watching everything possible now that I’m having weird health issues and don’t feel 100%
 
narta said:
Because they believe in the one and only truth, that is de voided of scientific facts and is based on conspiracy theories.

Plus they are vegan level obnoxious.

On topic,

Family history on BP?
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We will excuse the unnecessary statement of “plus they are vegan level obonxiois” as that seems emotionally driven.

Great to see this thread back on topic.
 
@Tbaz192 @PermaBlastingTren

Just an FYI on sleep apnea... there are a couple of "indicators" prior to actually going through a "sleep study":
1. elevated Hematocrit, but difficult to square when on AAS, as that can also do it. The oxygen deprivation causes it;
2. Oximeter - again, lack of oxygen is an "indicator;"
3. Of course, you mentioned it... snoring. Snoring is measured during a sleep study as part of the sleep apnea diagnosis.

If you have some recent blood-work done, and sleep apnea is a concern, the Hematocrit may be high on the labs.

Hopefully, it's just something minor like vitamin defeciency. Although, @Muscles’ brings up an interesting point about vitamin D... have to look into that one... I know defeciency can cause some fatigue, but I'm interested in looking into his anecdote further. But, not the one about the vax... sorry Muscles.
 
bigMoJo said:
@Tbaz192 @PermaBlastingTren

Just an FYI on sleep apnea... there are a couple of "indicators" prior to actually going through a "sleep study":
1. elevated Hematocrit, but difficult to square when on AAS, as that can also do it. The oxygen deprivation causes it;
2. Oximeter - again, lack of oxygen is an "indicator;"
3. Of course, you mentioned it... snoring. Snoring is measured during a sleep study as part of the sleep apnea diagnosis.
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Appreciate it, ever since TRT and pre gear my hematocrit has always been elevated. Nothing crazy. Just a few points higher on blast. But even elevated still being hydrated to the point I have to hit the restroom so much it’s annoying.

I definitely notice my airway being more obstructed in certain sleeping positions. Like Just harder to breathe. And mouth breathing makes that easier. So yeah not great.

Definitely need to get a sleep study. I’ll bring all this up with my doctor.

She’s about get so much info dumped on her lap lol
 
Tbaz192 said:
To reply to most of the recent replies!!

Vaca diet was literally terrible food,
Pancakes, steaks, desserts, whiskey, fair food. Etc.
so that uh definitely isn’t it. Probably just a fluke of feeling decent.

As far as labs. I get full lab work done every time I get them. Especially on cycle Including vitamin levels and potassium levels. All came back good in range. Nothing on the low end except my E2 at the time was slightly low.
& - my liver values came back slightly off (prob from the anadrol)

My supplement stack - Defend from huge supplements, multi vitamin (iron free), oregano oil, fiber 2-3x a day, reds greens powder. Few more but nothing worth mentioning
So my vitamin levels are pretty solid

Since my last labs all things should be back to normal. I’ll see soon.

My
Test levels are 900-1100 ( I don’t hyper respond ) this is also where I feel the best.

Starting at ground zero with full lab panel again. It’s been since Christmas time, which is also when I hopped off completely pretty much. Moved to TRT dose

Also no jab. Lmao.
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Double check those reds ur eating and get ur iron levels every type of iron saturation etc… checked!

A few guys i know have had issues related to using reds powders due to beets and it greatly effected their iron and blood pressure…

Eating steak on vaca maybe have been why u felt so great especially if ur iron is jacked… just sayin…

@NotHuman

Didnt reds end up messin u up for a time before??
 
Tbaz192 said:
And also. My BP once I start moving around and start my day
Hovers from 140-157 being the highest reading I’ve Gotten.
Which then stabilized and averaged around 140-145

So definitely elevated.
On a diet of
Rice, oats, potatoes, chicken, fish, etc (clean food)
Avoiding gluten
Caffeine limited to mornings 150-200mg
Starting with BP meds / labs. As said many times lol.
And whatever my doctor doesn’t want to order. I’ll order myself to check
But they said they’re going to start with a full blood panel as well.
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"Elevated" is 121-130.

140 is Stage 2 hypertension. Pretty serious.
 
Tbaz192 said:
Hopped off of low dose primo/test weeks ago maybe month+ or so ago now.
Was having some odd pain issues. Wasn’t E2 related. Labs checked out fine.

Since then. I’ve been on 100mg test every Monday Thursday. Keeps me at 1000+…
Also Took a break from training. Been like two weeks now. And still haven’t gone back to the gym.
TRT ONLY.
NO HGH. Nothing else.
Just legit TRT.

Currently now having some odd issues which I’m hoping are just related to High blood pressure and not enough fluids, I hope.. hopefully nothing serious.

ive been having odd weakness/dizzy spells. Arms get weak. Headaches. Off n on chest tightness/pain ( ER half a year ago said I didn’t have any heart issues, EKG was normal. No clotting, normal labs) Chest pain went away for a while. Now it’s back.
I stay hydrated and eat clean. Do my cardio and everything.

now it’s worse.
Last night I got back from vacation ( which I had zero of these issues the whole time)
My chest pain came back & my blood sugar crashed to low 40’s.. very bad. I lost full use of my hands, the tremors were so bad.
I ate some sugar, been fine since.

12 hours later. My Arms feel iffy. I feel weak. Chest pain is off n on. But it’s doesn’t feel internal or sharp. Just a dull ache.

So now I’m off to the hospital to get every possible test done.

Hoping for the best. Stay safe yall, don’t fuck around with your BP or health.
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Sounds like your going hypo regularly. If you didnt have the issue on vacation,.possible that shit diet kept you blood sugar up.
 
Tbaz192 said:
And also. My BP once I start moving around and start my day
Hovers from 140-157 being the highest reading I’ve Gotten.
Which then stabilized and averaged around 140-145

So definitely elevated.
On a diet of
Rice, oats, potatoes, chicken, fish, etc (clean food)
Avoiding gluten
Caffeine limited to mornings 150-200mg
Starting with BP meds / labs. As said many times lol.
And whatever my doctor doesn’t want to order. I’ll order myself to check
But they said they’re going to start with a full blood panel as well.
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Booze?
 
Muscles’ said:
Why is everyone downvoting my question about the jab?

Let me give you a quote by Warren Buffet

“You will continue to suffer if you have an emotional reaction to everything that is said to you“
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You’re the one projecting emotionality and quite possibly thin skin to those who disagree with ya in this case.

Don’t be so easily offended
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See how that’s bullshit, what I did there? I agree.
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Id wager they just disagree with the spurious link between “the jab” — vaccination against COVID-19, we all know — that has been politicized cynically, and any and everything wrong that happens to a random person on the internet. Especially since the evidence that exists is of overwhelming safety
 
Type-IIx said:
You’re the one projecting emotionality and quite possibly thin skin to those who disagree with ya in this case.

Don’t be so easily offended
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not quite, not quite.

Member said he was running test and primo but stopped and was experiencing mysterious illness with breathing and or heart.

Test and primo wouldn’t be causing that.

Many cases have reported mysterious illness with the jab , in regards to heart and breathing issues.

Seems I was getting downvoted because members were upset I asked if he got the jab. They took offensive to it and downvoted as if my question was meant to make fun of or insult

Assuming you got the jab tho?
 
Tbaz192 said:
Hopped off of low dose primo/test weeks ago maybe month+ or so ago now.
Was having some odd pain issues. Wasn’t E2 related. Labs checked out fine.

Since then. I’ve been on 100mg test every Monday Thursday. Keeps me at 1000+…
Also Took a break from training. Been like two weeks now. And still haven’t gone back to the gym.
TRT ONLY.
NO HGH. Nothing else.
Just legit TRT.

Currently now having some odd issues which I’m hoping are just related to High blood pressure and not enough fluids, I hope.. hopefully nothing serious.

ive been having odd weakness/dizzy spells. Arms get weak. Headaches. Off n on chest tightness/pain ( ER half a year ago said I didn’t have any heart issues, EKG was normal. No clotting, normal labs) Chest pain went away for a while. Now it’s back.
I stay hydrated and eat clean. Do my cardio and everything.

now it’s worse.
Last night I got back from vacation ( which I had zero of these issues the whole time)
My chest pain came back & my blood sugar crashed to low 40’s.. very bad. I lost full use of my hands, the tremors were so bad.
I ate some sugar, been fine since.

12 hours later. My Arms feel iffy. I feel weak. Chest pain is off n on. But it’s doesn’t feel internal or sharp. Just a dull ache.

So now I’m off to the hospital to get every possible test done.

Hoping for the best. Stay safe yall, don’t fuck around with your BP or health.
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Glad to hear you’re taking the initiative to head to the hospital because what you’re describing is very serious. Please don’t lose touch with the board, no matter the diagnosis, OK?
 
Muscles’ said:
not quite, not quite.

Member said he was running test and primo but stopped and was experiencing mysterious illness with breathing and or heart.

Test and primo wouldn’t be causing that.

Many cases have reported mysterious illness with the jab , in regards to heart and breathing issues.

Seems I was getting downvoted because members were upset I asked if he got the jab. They took offensive to it and downvoted as if my question was meant to make fun of or insult

Assuming you got the jab tho?
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I’ll give you a fuckin jab shithead! JK, it’s all in fun. It’s not your fault the media politicized a pandemic.

Yes I got one COVID-19 immunization, the Pfizer. Things are OK, besides growing a bigger dick

At the time in Massachusetts if you didn’t you couldn’t actually function in society without being blacklisted
 
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