War - What is it good for?

it is not the system, it is the people screwing up the system. we are going backwards since the late 90's. people can stand on their own two feet if we stop babying them.
I'm afraid that will never get any better, or worse depending how you feel. The country and world is changing. Take a look at our demographics. The term we here so much is multi-culturalism. I have nothing against other cultures, but the meaning of those two words together makes no sense. Something has to change And it is, like it or not.
This "system" doesn't work for everybody, so it has to adapt.
 
I'm afraid that will never get any better, or worse depending how you feel. The country and world is changing. Take a look at our demographics. The term we here so much is multi-culturalism. I have nothing against other cultures, but the meaning of those two words together makes no sense. Something has to change And it is, like it or not.
This "system" doesn't work for everybody, so it has to adapt.


no! the people wanting to come here have to adapt, not we have to adapt to them. they are coming here for a better life. they need to want to be an American or not come here.
 
I hear you HF. But it is changing. It's not a simple subject. Does everybody define "being an American" differently? You give up a little bit by bit. Generation by generation. To be free(?), to be anonymous, to be left alone. You don't have any of that anywhere close to what they had just a couple of generations ago. It's an exhausting and depressing subject.
 
it is not the system, it is the people screwing up the system. we are going backwards since the late 90's. people can stand on their own two feet if we stop babying them.
Remember brother that no new generations have ever said, oh we are moving towards the right direction... Old times aways seem better even though we have made incredible progress regarding to health, life quality and general understanding of our world and ourselves as beings... I believe it is just that we often enlarge the goodness of past happenings and exaggerate the atrocity and harshness of bad things that happen nowadays... If we are not moving towards the right direction then what is it?

Just my 0.02
 
no! the people wanting to come here have to adapt, not we have to adapt to them. they are coming here for a better life. they need to want to be an American or not come here.
I don't even think you could reduce it that much to just America, basically every well-developed country receives a steady continuous flux of immigrants from developing countries... It is just a matter of perspective... Of course, problems come when we take more resources to aid the outside than our own country.
 
I don't even think you could reduce it that much to just America, basically every well-developed country receives a steady continuous flux of immigrants from developing countries... It is just a matter of perspective... Of course, problems come when we take more resources to aid the outside than our own country.
I'm sure your intentions are good FU but your not following his train of thought . HF could care less what or who other "well developed countries", whatever that means, are receiving. He's concerned with his country. Doesn't like what he see's or feels happening.
 
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people come to America to get away from what they are running from. now people come here to try and change America to what those people was running from. the immigrants are not trying to be Americans anymore. the political correctness isn't helping anything. hell we are teaching our kids to hate to be an Americans anymore. teaching kids that we stole everything from other countries and other cultures. teaching our kids we are the cause of global warming. when those are blatant lies!

just like how we are raising our kids to be all winners. which in turn raises them all to be failures. people need to learn to fail, so they can pick themselves back up and try again. yes, this country is going to shit and it is not progressing in a good way.
 
Fuck HF I can't say it any better than you just did. I did some vile things in the Marines in Al-asad and Fallujah..I would have rather just cut the losses of innocents and dropped a nuke or ten in the Middle East, glass parking lot! Japan doesn't fuck with us no more lol.
 
I'm sure your intentions are good FU but your not following his train of thought . HF could care less what or who other "well developed countries", whatever that means, are receiving. He's concerned with his country. Doesn't like what he see's or feels happening.
I am indeed following exactly what HF meant. The point being is that you can not analyze Nation-wide issues overlooking the context in which they are developed. By Well Developed countries I mean the old denomination First World countries like USA, the nations of western Europe (France, Spain, Italy, Portugal, UK, Germany..). That being said the fact that now we are being basically "invaded" (Without any offensive connotation to any member of this board that has immigrated into the USA) because big nations like ours have in the past suck the living shit and resources of smaller countries by instating puppet governments and abusive trading policies (See the examples of Russia (First World Country, with Cuba. Russia helped the Communist Fidel Castro get to power in Cuba back in the XX century and now the country is a crippled old communist regime fucking fantasy where people starve to death, now we got all the Cubans that made it out of the island swim/sail up to Florida looking for a better life and opportunities since their country has none because a bigger fish got what it wanted from Cuba and left it on the m*therfucking bone); (See the example of I KNOW MANY OF YOU WILL DISAGREE BUT FUCK IT Dominican Republic and the USA, WE supported the dictator Rafael Trujillo get the power back in the 1930s to prevent a communist expansion from Cuba or the old Soviet Union instating more Satellite states near us. What happened afterwards? We got New York and the whole USA now, full of Dominicans escaping from the dictatorship and the lack of freedom of their original country to come to the land of the free and opportunities basically not to fucking die if they were accused of being against the dictator or say a word that was not approved by him) and those two are very basic examples of complex political situations simplified to the best of my understanding. Of course my opinion is not absolute and it is just that, an opinion. I love America and I will be blessed if my death comes defending this country and what it represents to me.
Bump kawilt :)

people come to America to get away from what they are running from. now people come here to try and change America to what those people was running from. the immigrants are not trying to be Americans anymore. the political correctness isn't helping anything. hell we are teaching our kids to hate to be an Americans anymore. teaching kids that we stole everything from other countries and other cultures. teaching our kids we are the cause of global warming. when those are blatant lies!

just like how we are raising our kids to be all winners. which in turn raises them all to be failures. people need to learn to fail, so they can pick themselves back up and try again. yes, this country is going to shit and it is not progressing in a good way.

I do not think nobody is trying to change anything. We just got lost in a shithole of political correctness bullshit where we feel like in order to accept other cultures we have to change our own. Just think about it this way: If you had to move to Japan because God forbid the conditions of life in Texas (Let's assume you are from there originally) become unbearable for you and your family; would you adopt every single Japanese custom and courtesy? No right? Then why do you expect immigrants to do the same with America? Everyone is who he/she is and in order to be TOLERANT you don't have to resign what you were originally in the first place.
Fuck HF I can't say it any better than you just did. I did some vile things in the Marines in Al-asad and Fallujah..I would have rather just cut the losses of innocents and dropped a nuke or ten in the Middle East, glass parking lot! Japan doesn't fuck with us no more lol.

The thing my fellow Marine is that in order to carry out operations like that we need to have the public opinion in our side, at least in the acceptable ranges. Nuking a whole motherfucking desert would make mothers of America Menopausal Association die of a massive heart attack so their hypocritical account of facts concludes in a massacre more merciful than a nuke.

Ooh Rah!
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I was 6014 I think fuck it's been a while then 0311 for a bit in Iraq..I got out over a decade ago. I worked on Harriers then when war started I switched and attached to a ground unit with 31st MEU
 
Nice, how long you were in? I've got screwed over into becoming I&I integrated staff but I need to promote faster, Infantry promotions are just a fucking unicorn, If I don't pick up Sgt this year I'll go to DI school. I'm getting fucked with the deployments too because I'm non-deployable right now but I guess I'll need to wait until something good cooks for me.
 
I disagree, I was stationed in Germany and I never once thought the Germans should cater to me. I wasn't trying to change Germany to suit my needs. if I wanted a better experience I would learn German and not go around protesting why don't the Germans become Americans. if people come to America, they should assimilate and not try and force their culture down my throat. God has been taken out of everything, cause we have to cater to everyone else. they teach Muslim teachings in our schools now, but refuse to teach Christianity. WTF! don't even get me started how they are completely fabricating history now.
 
Cultures will change with the slowly changing demographics. That's just an historical fact. And there will always be boogie man. Hitler and fascism, communism, the war on drugs, the war on terror, ad nauseam. Remember "the domino effect"?
 
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