Photon
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2 Sealed vials of TRE400 were sent to Jano for testing.
Both were confirmed today to contain dissolved plastic.
Janoshik Analytical (1st batch)
Janoshik Analytical (2nd/current batch)
Vials are from 2 different batches.
The first batch and 2nd (current) batch.
As confirmed by Vendor, only 2 batches exist.
How toxic is this?
I have no idea, however I have zero plans to inject from any vendor that has any products containing dissolved plastic.
Which products are affected?
As of now we only have confirmation of the first and current batches of TRE400.
Is this only for Tren related oils?
No this may occur for all AAS oils.
Can this be filtered out?
No.
What testing is performed?
HPLC + GCMS.
This is not a new test. It has been performed on vendors such as QSC and we know that they have been gone for ages.
What other vendors have this?
In the 10+ test reports we have of different vendors, this is the first time we are seeing this.
We even have testing done on TNE (which uses alot more solvents) with no dissolved plastic.
What brewing equipment?
Bottle top filters which are made out of a single piece plastic (polystyrene).
Polystyrene is not compatible with the solvents used for brewing and will dissolve.
How much / quickly the plastic dissolves depends on the amount of oil being filtered and the % of solvents used.
This means that is it more likely to occur in oils sold in high volume or high concentration oils.
Is vendor testing sufficient?
Buy from vendors you trust.
There is nothing stopping them from swapping batches or using same batch numbers for multiple batches.
Do you believe a vendor will toss out tens of thousands in finished oils and brewing equipment?
Both were confirmed today to contain dissolved plastic.
Janoshik Analytical (1st batch)
Janoshik Analytical (2nd/current batch)
Vials are from 2 different batches.
The first batch and 2nd (current) batch.
As confirmed by Vendor, only 2 batches exist.
How toxic is this?
I have no idea, however I have zero plans to inject from any vendor that has any products containing dissolved plastic.
Which products are affected?
As of now we only have confirmation of the first and current batches of TRE400.
Is this only for Tren related oils?
No this may occur for all AAS oils.
Can this be filtered out?
No.
What testing is performed?
HPLC + GCMS.
This is not a new test. It has been performed on vendors such as QSC and we know that they have been gone for ages.
What other vendors have this?
In the 10+ test reports we have of different vendors, this is the first time we are seeing this.
We even have testing done on TNE (which uses alot more solvents) with no dissolved plastic.
What brewing equipment?
Bottle top filters which are made out of a single piece plastic (polystyrene).
Polystyrene is not compatible with the solvents used for brewing and will dissolve.
How much / quickly the plastic dissolves depends on the amount of oil being filtered and the % of solvents used.
This means that is it more likely to occur in oils sold in high volume or high concentration oils.
Is vendor testing sufficient?
Buy from vendors you trust.
There is nothing stopping them from swapping batches or using same batch numbers for multiple batches.
Do you believe a vendor will toss out tens of thousands in finished oils and brewing equipment?
