Did you start the e2 when you started primo or after? I’d like to go higher dose primo with e2 wanted to get your insights. Good thread.
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Unique Test/Primo/E2 Base Cycle + EO Experiment
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Raiders789
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I started both at the same time when I started my cycle - I have a month's volume of injections all premixed in a 50ml vial.
Love to hear you're gonna try out injectable e2! PSA tho I have used injectable E2 before this cycle, so I knew how much estradiol to pin to keep my E2 in range and I also knew from previous experience that essentially any dose of primo zeroes my aromatase activity.
But in terms of the first few days supping E2 - I believe timing doesn't matter as much as you'd think. I take your already on some dosage of primo - I'd recommend that when you raise your dose, add the E2 a day after and see how you feel over the next few days. From what I've seen, 1mg of Estradiol cyp will land your E2 somewhere around 20 if your aromatase activity is crushed, but if you are just doing a relatively small increase of primo(and not fully blocking your aromatase enzyme) you may not need that much right away. If you go through with it, keep me updated on how it goes!
Sounds good dude, really appreciate it. As of now I am on 75mg of primo, plan to increase in two weeks but e2 has already started lowering so we’ll see. Ill update once the e cyp arrives I just ordered it today and doing hcg for now.
Bigbicep
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So you’ve so far put on 22lbs since day 7 ? Most of it lean muscle? How’s your mental state? Any brain fog, “roid rage” or anxiety?
Bigbicep
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Also how would you compare it to other cycles with high test or test alone?
Raiders789
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Yes, but I'm definitely holding a bit extra water than I otherwise would, which I'd attribute to increasing my GH to 8iu/night a few weeks back and from all the food I've been eating. Also I'd assume another chunk of that gain is transient intramuscular glycogen storage. But gains have been great and I've seen the most growth in my chest + legs which I've really been emphasizing.
My mental state has been great - I don't feel "on" at all or at least like I have in the past running higher test. Never any roid rage, I'm in general a pretty calm guy so thats never really been an issue for me. If anything I feel a lot more level headed and relaxed most of the day, which is great, but I kinda miss the cns stimulation that I've had on other cycles. The var helps a bit with that - whenever I go over 20mg I feel modestly agressive and "on" but nothing crazy. My focus and mental drive have been great which has had a huge help with classes and just being productive in general.
I've personally never gone that "high" with just test, the most I've done is 600mg/week. Gains were good on both but running my cycle like this lets me avoid acne, which was an issue for me on higher test. Also having my E2 locked in from the beginning was nice because I didn't have to deal with any huge jumps in water retention and my mood was 100% stable. Not having to deal with managing E2 I feel is such an underrated bonus of this cycle.
atruse
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Definitely should add the 50mg of tren lol
I added it in like 3-4 weeks ago now. I love it.
I added it in like 3-4 weeks ago now. I love it.
Raiders789
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Yes bro I'm acutally using 1mg cyp now, the ester doesn't really matter unless you plan do do like a week+ interval between pins.
I chose to structure my cycle like this because I've always been a very low aromatizer so trying to add in an AI-like anabolic has been extremely difficult to manage without crashing my E2. Last (and first time) using primo I zeroed my E2 on a 2:1 test
rimo ratio and instead of trying to play games to balance it, I just added a bit of Estradiol and boom problem solved. So I figured I'd run it back but go all in, running just trt and a lot of primo to really see how well primo works as the main driver of a cycle. Also I have a ton of primo and I love how I feel on it lmao.
Raiders789
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lmao you convinced me, I'm in
