Turkeybuilder's first cycle! SUBQ ONLY!

Ideally?? "Keep gains and cut" shouldn't ever be uttered in the same sentence , who wouldn't want that , come on be realistic at least
He’s a nice guy but still doesn’t get what we’re telling him. I’m done posting here lol too much for me
If you guys are suggesting i’ll lose even close to half of the gains I put on cycle by going on a cut, despite me having years less experience than both of you I will confidently say you’re both wrong. I’m not a massive freak that will start losing muscle the second i’m not in a caloric surplus. With hard training, anabolics (200 test), and a small reasonable caloric surplus I will probably keep 80-90% of my gains made during this cycle, by the end of a 2ish month cut

I’m 5’7 182lb, theres naturals who are that weight and height and leaner/bigger than me. If I was 10-20lb above my natural limit then i’d 100% be on the same page as you guys, but that isnt the case for me
 
If you guys are suggesting i’ll lose even close to half of the gains I put on cycle by going on a cut, despite me having years less experience than both of you I will confidently say you’re both wrong. I’m not a massive freak that will start losing muscle the second i’m not in a caloric surplus. With hard training, anabolics (200 test), and a small reasonable caloric surplus I will probably keep 80-90% of my gains made during this cycle, by the end of a 2ish month cut

I’m 5’7 182lb, theres naturals who are that weight and height and leaner/bigger than me. If I was 10-20lb above my natural limit then i’d 100% be on the same page as you guys, but that isnt the case for me
I honestly could give a fuck less to tell you the truth, do what you wanna do. Good luck on your journey.
 
Brotha 5’-7” and 182lbs will never be a “massive freak.” Maybe a lil freak tho
I know, my height has destined me to go for aesthetic instead of a mass monster who intimidates anyone when you walk in a room lol

Mass monster at my height in my opinion looks ugly as f unless you have a tiny waist which I don’t think i have

But regardless I respect the f out of everyone who trains their butt off and is 30-40lb above their natural genetic limit but that was never my goal. I’ll likely keep bulking > cutting > maintaining > bulking > repeat until i’m satisfied with my size and leanness. But i didnt expect to achieve anywhere near that goal on my first cycle and I didn’t, hence me wanting to just chill for a few months, try to lean down a little and blast away again. Summer is coming up anyways i’d love to look lean af for beach and pool days. I never got to experience that in my entire life and i’m close to it
 
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