Turkeybuilder's first cycle! SUBQ ONLY!

[Turkeybuilder]

I'm curious why you're cutting your bulk so short? 12 -14 weeks , you're leaving a lot of gains on the table

If my labs look good week 12 I was gonna 100% extend to 16 weeks. You think 16 weeks is too short still?

 

[Ateam2023]

If my labs look good week 12 I was gonna 100% extend to 16 weeks. You think 16 weeks is too short still?

That certainly better than 12 weeks I'll say that , but most bulks are 20 weeks especially a test only bulk

 

[Turkeybuilder]

That certainly better than 12 weeks I'll say that , but most bulks are 20 weeks especially a test only bulk

I have no problem extending to 20 weeks if my lab markers are fine

 

[Turkeybuilder]

Ill probably keep extending it as long as my labs are fine and my BF doesnt get too high lol

 

[Ateam2023]

Ill probably keep extending it as long as my labs are fine and my BF doesnt get too high lol

LFG!!!! 24 week Super BULLLK!!

 

[Ateam2023]

Quit playing!!

 

[Turkeybuilder]

LFG!!!! 24 week Super BULLLK!!

52 week bulk

 

[Catteni]

I'm curious why you're cutting your bulk so short? 12 -14 weeks , you're leaving a lot of gains on the table

Thinking he should go 20 A?

Nvm day late and dollar short.

 

[Ateam2023]

52 week bulk

Now you're just being ridiculous,

 

[dinfaralt]

52 week bulk

isnt far off.

40 week bulk, 12 week cut. thats it yearly routine

 

[Turkeybuilder]

isnt far off.

40 week bulk, 12 week cut. thats it yearly routine

unironically im going to bulk until i hit too high of a bf% or my labs tell me to stop

is there any reason why i shouldnt?

 

[dinfaralt]

unironically im going to bulk until i hit too high of a bf% or my labs tell me to stop

is there any reason why i shouldnt?

no you can do whatver you want. especially first bulk learn the speed as you go.

40 weeks is 9 months offseason 3 months cut to show, 1 show a year. 40 weeks bulk whether with full blast or not should be your aim for fat gain over time.

12 weeks to cut it down to atleast 10% again.

you're 165lbs. aim for 0.5% bodyweight gain a week so for you its 0.82lbs mass a week. if half of that gained is waterweight+muscle by the end of the bulk you'll have taken 20% bodyweight on and 10% of it is bodyfat(with you gaining more muscle mass this is now lower). goal is then to cut the bodyfat away in 12 weeks.

pretty simple pro bodybuilding routine 101 that just works

 

[Turkeybuilder]

no you can do whatver you want. especially first bulk learn the speed as you go.

40 weeks is 9 months offseason 3 months cut to show, 1 show a year. 40 weeks bulk whether with full blast or not should be your aim for fat gain over time.

12 weeks to cut it down to atleast 10% again.

you're 165lbs. aim for 0.5% bodyweight gain a week so for you its 0.82lbs mass a week. if half of that gained is waterweight+muscle by the end of the bulk you'll have taken 20% bodyweight on and 10% of it is bodyfat(with you gaining more muscle mass this is now lower). goal is then to cut the bodyfat away in 12 weeks.

pretty simple pro bodybuilding routine 101 that just works

I started my bulk at 14-16% BF if I had to guess with eyeball test
so i'm kind of at that disadvantage where I'm already pretty close to being too fat to continue a bulk so i'm going to assume that is what will be my limiting factor for how long this bulk will last as opposed to health reasons

I just drew my day 30 labs today so hopefully i get those results soon and i can see what we're working with

 

[Ateam2023]

I started my bulk at 14-16% BF if I had to guess with eyeball test
so i'm kind of at that disadvantage where I'm already pretty close to being too fat to continue a bulk so i'm going to assume that is what will be my limiting factor for how long this bulk will last as opposed to health reasons

I just drew my day 30 labs today so hopefully i get those results soon and i can see what we're working with

So you're two weeks early on your labs geez, you're just effing this bulk up left and right, seems like you're trying to reinvent the wheel with this bulk. Everything you're doing is against the norm. but hey, that's how we learn. From my understanding, the reason why we take blood test at six weeks is because testosterone c or E take about 5-6 half lives to fully saturate, which is around 42 days give or take

 

[Turkeybuilder]

So you're two weeks early on your labs geez, you're just effing this bulk up left and right, seems like you're trying to reinvent the wheel with this bulk. Everything you're doing is against the norm. but hey, that's how we learn. From my understanding, the reason why we take blood test at six weeks is because testosterone c or E take about 5-6 half lives to fully saturate, which is around 42 days give or take

plan was always labs every 4 weeks, so ill get my labs again in 4 weeks. i think it's good to get a temporary baseline for now since it's my first cycle and i need to check on my e2. studies show actually that with sub-q injections you dont fully saturate until week 8. so im not gonna wait 8 weeks to draw labs

 

[Ateam2023]

plan was always labs every 4 weeks, so ill get my labs again in 4 weeks. i think it's good to get a temporary baseline for now since it's my first cycle and i need to check on my e2. studies show actually that with sub-q injections you dont fully saturate until week 8. so im not gonna wait 8 weeks to draw labs

This is your bulk you do you, i will refrain from saying anything about your bulk , mayyybe

 

[Turkeybuilder]

This is your bulk you do you, i will refrain from saying anything about your bulk , mayyybe

i will make you proud

my end goal isnt to be a mass monster, i just want to be 180-185lb 10% BF

 

[Oig2214]

The more blood work the better imo. If you see something off on your cbc or liver or lipids etc you can adjust early. I think you are doing it right

 

[Turkeybuilder]

Got my labs back… i’m a dumbass and didn’t realize the TT test I usually do caps out at 1500…. So that was a waste of time. Posting the rest of my labs here shortly

 

[Turkeybuilder]

Any thoughts / comments / concerns about my labs besides me being a dumbass and needing to find out what test I need to purchase to get an un-capped TT / FT number?

I don't think I will be incorporating an AI as I don't have any symptoms and 75.2 is not egregiously high. Maybe the daily sub-q pinning lead to my E2 not spiking so high. only time will tell in 4 weeks with my next set of labs. going to draw another TT / FT soon when i find out what lab to order so its not capped. (I use marek health if anyone knows)