TrenboloneTax: Hybrid Cycling / Lifting Log aka Make Hulk Bike Fast

[Trenbolonetax]

This doesn't tank your e2?

Normally 250 test 200 primo would, but HCG raises my e2.

Mast doesn't impact my serum e2, but it has some anti estrogen impact at the cellular level I believe. However haven't noticed symptoms of low e2 e.g., no joint pain.

So, 250 test 200 primo 200 mast is perfect for my purposes. Limited water weight, lowish doses, good aesthetic, lower impact on health markers than harsher compounds, and probably some of the less suppressive choices (the DHT derivatives vs 19-nors vs test).

 

[cinder]

Normally 250 test 200 primo would, but HCG raises my e2.

Mast doesn't impact my serum e2, but it has some anti estrogen impact at the cellular level I believe. However haven't noticed symptoms of low e2 e.g., no joint pain.

So, 250 test 200 primo 200 mast is perfect for my purposes. Limited water weight, lowish doses, good aesthetic, lower impact on health markers than harsher compounds, and probably some of the less suppressive choices (the DHT derivatives vs 19-nors vs test).

I've seen some pro cycles where they do low test compared to mast/primo like ~400-800 / ~1000-2000, I always wondered if there was a diminishing effect concerning E2 suppression of primo/mast

 

[Sampei]

Normally 250 test 200 primo would, but HCG raises my e2.

Mast doesn't impact my serum e2, but it has some anti estrogen impact at the cellular level I believe. However haven't noticed symptoms of low e2 e.g., no joint pain.

So, 250 test 200 primo 200 mast is perfect for my purposes. Limited water weight, lowish doses, good aesthetic, lower impact on health markers than harsher compounds, and probably some of the less suppressive choices (the DHT derivatives vs 19-nors vs test).

Why reta at 15mg? That's even above the recommended maximum dosage lol what's the reason of this choice?

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Why reta at 15mg? That's even above the recommended maximum dosage lol what's the reason of this choice?

Cuz it makes math easy and because Ghoul talking about the potency difference of UGL vs pharma from a “feelz” perspective.

That’s the thinking behind it…not saying it’s smart lol

 

[Sampei]

Cuz it makes math easy and because Ghoul talking about the potency difference of UGL vs pharma from a “feelz” perspective.

That’s the thinking behind it…not saying it’s smart lol

Have you checked your albumin and iron level lately after all the reta use?

 

[Trenbolonetax]

I've seen some pro cycles where they do low test compared to mast/primo like ~400-800 / ~1000-2000, I always wondered if there was a diminishing effect concerning E2 suppression of primo/mast

I would imagine there is some sort of diminishing returns from the AI effect but not sure when that might kick in (at what primo doses).

If they’re heading into a contest though, don’t think they’re concerned much about crashed estrogen since they’ll likely be crashing it anyways end of prep.

But low test / high primo seems a bit miserable to bulk on if you ask me. My joints hurt thinking about progressive overload with tanked e2 lol

I’m fine with low test high mast though. Maybe slightly drier joints but not wildly different.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Have you checked your albumin and iron level lately after all the reta use?

Have not. Need to go do those dang bloods

 

[Sampei]

Have not. Need to go do those dang bloods

Please do it and include those two I'm very curious

 

[Trenbolonetax]

BW: 291

Gear: 500 test / 400 primo. Getting real tired of primos shit. Everywhere but delts gets knotted. Not like a lump but a tightening that causes palpable difference in the remainder of the muscle belly even where I did not pin.

I’m thinking I will probably just move towards TRT+ and try to figure out how to dial in e2 without primo or an AI despite a lot of HCG. Or just pin delts 2x per week with test + primo, lol. Probably opt for the latter option.

Been taking more rest days like a 2 on 1 off schedule and it’s been good for the body.

Baby is 3 months away. Fuck, time flies. Pregame jitters never hit me until like 5 minutes before game time. Which is good and bad. This is similar. But I could use a bit of a sense of urgency lol.

Diet moving lower and lower carb. Wife’s insulin resistance is going wild in the 3rd trimester due to pregnancy hormones (she’s type 1). So household food is changing to accommodate.

 

[DinoBB76]

BW: 291

Gear: 500 test / 400 primo. Getting real tired of primos shit. Everywhere but delts gets knotted. Not like a lump but a tightening that causes palpable difference in the remainder of the muscle belly even where I did not pin.

I’m thinking I will probably just move towards TRT+ and try to figure out how to dial in e2 without primo or an AI despite a lot of HCG. Or just pin delts 2x per week with test + primo, lol. Probably opt for the latter option.

Been taking more rest days like a 2 on 1 off schedule and it’s been good for the body.

Baby is 3 months away. Fuck, time flies. Pregame jitters never hit me until like 5 minutes before game time. Which is good and bad. This is similar. But I could use a bit of a sense of urgency lol.

Diet moving lower and lower carb. Wife’s insulin resistance is going wild in the 3rd trimester due to pregnancy hormones (she’s type 1). So household food is changing to accommodate.

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you can try change primo with mast ; mast is pipless , if you try to control E2 , EQ Primo and mast is good for 80% of people

 

[BamaCrazy]

BW: 291

Gear: 500 test / 400 primo. Getting real tired of primos shit. Everywhere but delts gets knotted. Not like a lump but a tightening that causes palpable difference in the remainder of the muscle belly even where I did not pin.

I’m thinking I will probably just move towards TRT+ and try to figure out how to dial in e2 without primo or an AI despite a lot of HCG. Or just pin delts 2x per week with test + primo, lol. Probably opt for the latter option.

Been taking more rest days like a 2 on 1 off schedule and it’s been good for the body.

Baby is 3 months away. Fuck, time flies. Pregame jitters never hit me until like 5 minutes before game time. Which is good and bad. This is similar. But I could use a bit of a sense of urgency lol.

Diet moving lower and lower carb. Wife’s insulin resistance is going wild in the 3rd trimester due to pregnancy hormones (she’s type 1). So household food is changing to accommodate.

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That’s disappointing to hear about the Primo. I just ordered some of Stan’s 150mg GSO. I’m hoping that’s the solution for me. Primo 100 didn’t give me any issues but it was a lot more volume to inject each week.

I’m happy to hear that the pregnancy is going well (as well as can be expected).

 

[Care2Play]

BW: 291

Gear: 500 test / 400 primo. Getting real tired of primos shit. Everywhere but delts gets knotted. Not like a lump but a tightening that causes palpable difference in the remainder of the muscle belly even where I did not pin.

I’m thinking I will probably just move towards TRT+ and try to figure out how to dial in e2 without primo or an AI despite a lot of HCG. Or just pin delts 2x per week with test + primo, lol. Probably opt for the latter option.

Been taking more rest days like a 2 on 1 off schedule and it’s been good for the body.

Baby is 3 months away. Fuck, time flies. Pregame jitters never hit me until like 5 minutes before game time. Which is good and bad. This is similar. But I could use a bit of a sense of urgency lol.

Diet moving lower and lower carb. Wife’s insulin resistance is going wild in the 3rd trimester due to pregnancy hormones (she’s type 1). So household food is changing to accommodate.

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Looking BIG!!!

Good luck with your baby and being a father. Enjoy the time, they grow fast. Faster than any person on gear

 

[Trenbolonetax]

you can try change primo with mast ; mast is pipless , if you try to control E2 , EQ Primo and mast is good for 80% of people

Mast is indeed PIPless for me, too. However, it doesn't control my serum e2. It can amelioriate some of the negatives I get from elevated e2, however, doesn't address the root issue like EQ or primo does for me.

I did really enjoy EQ, however, the incredibly long ester gives me pause. I like to be able to manipulate things quicker than the Undecylate ester allows. However I've got a couple more options before reverting back to test + EQ.

1) Pharmaqo blend; test + mast + primo; 200 / 100 / 100.
2) Stan's GSO Primo E + MCT Test C; historically, i've had the best luck with primo in GSO versus MCT in regards to pinning issues

If neither of those are satisfactory, I'll revert to test + EQ. 1ml of each per week (250 / 300).

 

[Trenbolonetax]

That’s disappointing to hear about the Primo. I just ordered some of Stan’s 150mg GSO. I’m hoping that’s the solution for me. Primo 100 didn’t give me any issues but it was a lot more volume to inject each week.

I’m happy to hear that the pregnancy is going well (as well as can be expected).

Stan's 150 has historically been awesome for me. I think I actually still have some of it stashed away. Thanks for the reminder, hah.

I'm just continuing with primo. Gonna give my body at least a month to acclimate to the new juice. I've got a bit too much primo laying around to completely give up on it haha.

Thanks brother. All things considered, they are going very well. Best decision ever to forgo dual income and just have her focus on a healthy happy baby.

 

[malfeasance]

Whose primo?

 

[Juiced_lizard]

Whose primo?

Stan's 150

 

[BamaCrazy]

I think he means whose Primo is giving him issues right now. He will correct me if I’m wrong but I think he’s using GA’s Primo 200. Which also gave me issues.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

I think he means whose Primo is giving him issues right now. He will correct me if I’m wrong but I think he’s using GA’s Primo 200. Which also gave me issues.

The 3 that I’ve been trying out: QSC 100mg/ml, QSC 200mg/ml and GA 200mg/ml.

Shot 2ml of GA’s into my delt yesterday …. Zero pip zero issues. Opposite of last glute pin, confusing but I’ll take it.

 

[DinoBB76]

The 3 that I’ve been trying out: QSC 100mg/ml, QSC 200mg/ml and GA 200mg/ml.

Shot 2ml of GA’s into my delt yesterday …. Zero pip zero issues. Opposite of last glute pin, confusing but I’ll take it.

2ml primo 200mg/ml without PIP or inflammation in a delts is great , GA Primo is better that QSC

 

[Trenbolonetax]

2ml primo 200mg/ml without PIP or inflammation in a delts is great , GA Primo is better that QSC

I’ve just come to the conclusion primo is a fickle bitch and I’ll have to accept her how she comes.