TrenboloneTax: Hybrid Cycling / Lifting Log aka Make Hulk Bike Fast

[Trenbolonetax]

Lol.
6 straight 8-10 hour training days got me feeling it. Luckily today is an off day. Back at it tomorrow

Wtf. That's wild you still train like that.

I’ve always been about 185ish when on tour maybe 195 now. I haven’t weighed in about a year.
All these peds added a few. lol.
Probably by the end of training block I’ll be back in the 180’s
I’m 6’2 barefoot btw.

I hate the water weight / glycogen super compensation of higher PED doses (for the most part). Sucks cuz it actually negatively impacts athletic performance while on, but then you drop doses or get off and usually get to see the fruits of your labor.

 

[Benf15harp]

Wtf. That's wild you still train like that.

I hate the water weight / glycogen super compensation of higher PED doses (for the most part). Sucks cuz it actually negatively impacts athletic performance while on, but then you drop doses or get off and usually get to see the fruits of your labor.

Yeah I’m an idiot. Lol. I often consider making a comeback. Couldn’t possibly be as bad as Mikey Tyson’s lol

I was probably 210 before I reduced test and hgh haha

 

[readalot]

Couldn’t possibly be as bad as Mikey Tyson’s lol

Hey, he got out there.

Can't beat Father Time. He owns us all. Undefeated as I am finding out. Sucks.

 

[twreck555]

Aaaaaand we're >290lbs.View attachment 305319

Jesus fucking christ, happy Thanksgiving!

 

[readalot]

Damn, beef!

In the end that's all it can ever be. Unlike you with your beautiful, flowing muscles, the bigger and more vascular I get the more it all looks wrong.

Good summary of my various AAS experiences.



Muscle, p. 245

Thank you for showing us what it's like for a demi-god. You give me hope.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Don't want to wake the wife up using the other bathroom to weigh myself, but definitely down from 290lb to mid 280s if I had to guess. Digestion was kind of fucked yesterday, lol, didn't feel great but feeling much better today.

I should probably give a "stack" update since it's changed so much over the last couple of weeks due to my indecision / multiple personalities.

750mg test / 800mg mast / 600mg EQ weekly
60mg anavar oxandrolone daily
12iu GH daily
12mg reta weekly
600mg l carnitine daily
1000iu HCG daily
75iu HMG daily
10mg mots-c daily
200mg SLUPPP daily
250mg 5Amino1MQ daily
80mg telmisartan
200mcg T4
150mg armodafinil

Will be adding leg days back since I'm lifting 5 to 6x per week now.

What does TRT++ look like in 2025? Something close to this:

210mg test p / 210mg mast p / ?EQ???
6iu GH
+ the rest of the stack the same (no var)

What does TRT+ look like when the baby is born?
210mg test p / ?mast???; it may also just be 1ml of test c 1x per week due to the demands of a baby and not having the bandwidth to pin daily. might need to conjure up some Test D for this purpose.
4iu GH
+ rest of the stack (no var)

 

[Trenbolonetax]

In the end that's all it can ever be. Unlike you with your beautiful, flowing muscles, the bigger and more vascular I get the more it all looks wrong.

Don't make me blush, @readalot. Don't encourage this behavior!

Good summary of my various AAS experiences.

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Muscle, p. 245

Thank you for showing us what it's like for a demi-god. You give me hope.

That's awfully kind of you. Demi-God? Not sure about that one; retard with above average muscle insertions and genetics? That's probably closer to the truth.

 

[JG91]

Why not just switch to a long ester a little while before the baby so you don’t need to worry about transitioning? Plus what’s the harm of a little test U in the background while still doing your test p?

Truthfully I have no idea how test u or D is dosed. I just know it would make sense during newborn brain fog.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Why not just switch to a long ester a little while before the baby so you don’t need to worry about transitioning? Plus what’s the harm of a little test U in the background while still doing your test p?

Truthfully I have no idea how test u or D is dosed. I just know it would make sense during newborn brain fog.

Really there is no harm as far as I'm concerned. I'm on test C now, so I could just continue that. I do have test U as well. I just hate how long that ester is and how difficult it is to make dose adjustments. I also feel better when I have peaks and troughs and not insanely artificially stable levels. So I suppose it's a balance between that. Test D seemed like a good in between Test C and Test U, but still doesn't allow peaks and troughs.

I think ultimately I'll just pin Test C "when I can" when the baby comes; I'm sure I'll be able to hit it 2x per week if I wanted to. Takes all of 2 minutes. I know it will be chaos, but I'll have to poop, so I'll just pin and poop.

 

[twreck555]

Don't want to wake the wife up using the other bathroom to weigh myself, but definitely down from 290lb to mid 280s if I had to guess. Digestion was kind of fucked yesterday, lol, didn't feel great but feeling much better today.

I should probably give a "stack" update since it's changed so much over the last couple of weeks due to my indecision / multiple personalities.

750mg test / 800mg mast / 600mg EQ weekly
60mg anavar oxandrolone daily
12iu GH daily
12mg reta weekly
600mg l carnitine daily
1000iu HCG daily
75iu HMG daily
10mg mots-c daily
200mg SLUPPP daily
250mg 5Amino1MQ daily
80mg telmisartan
200mcg T4
150mg armodafinil

Will be adding leg days back since I'm lifting 5 to 6x per week now.

What does TRT++ look like in 2025? Something close to this:

210mg test p / 210mg mast p / ?EQ???
6iu GH
+ the rest of the stack the same (no var)

What does TRT+ look like when the baby is born?
210mg test p / ?mast???; it may also just be 1ml of test c 1x per week due to the demands of a baby and not having the bandwidth to pin daily. might need to conjure up some Test D for this purpose.
4iu GH
+ rest of the stack (no var)

View attachment 305478

Certainly can't argue with those results. Couple questions:

E2 stays in range on that level of injectable?
Do you find anavar at that dose sustainable or is that only a short course item? It crushed my hdl by like 70% which is why I ditched it, otherwise I loved it.
At what dose do you think that the SLUPP really becomes noticeable?

Thanks for any info brother. Love to learn all I can from those more experiienced.

 

[twreck555]

Don't make me blush, @readalot. Don't encourage this behavior!

That's awfully kind of you. Demi-God? Not sure about that one; retard with above average muscle insertions and genetics? That's probably closer to the truth.

"Above average." We men really do have body dysmorphia as bad as women, don't we?

 

[twreck555]

Really there is no harm as far as I'm concerned. I'm on test C now, so I could just continue that. I do have test U as well. I just hate how long that ester is and how difficult it is to make dose adjustments. I also feel better when I have peaks and troughs and not insanely artificially stable levels. So I suppose it's a balance between that. Test D seemed like a good in between Test C and Test U, but still doesn't allow peaks and troughs.

I think ultimately I'll just pin Test C "when I can" when the baby comes; I'm sure I'll be able to hit it 2x per week if I wanted to. Takes all of 2 minutes. I know it will be chaos, but I'll have to poop, so I'll just pin and poop.

I'm sure you'll be able to afford to spend 2 minutes 2x/wk. Only advantages I can see to test u would be if you have to leave the country or something and don't want to bring gear with you. There is some special concern around test u with oil embolism and I'm not sure if it's something to do with the oil used or just the larger volume in one shot but look into it maybe if you decide to use it.

 

[readalot]

Demi-God? Not sure about that one; retard with above average muscle insertions and genetics? That's probably closer to the truth.

"tomāto, tomäto"

 

[twreck555]

Oh! I did have one more question. You use the armodafinil daily right? Do you find that it builds tolerance? I ask because every other stimulant I've tried (caffeine, ephedrine, Ritalin, Vyvanse, Adderall, and, long ago, the most powerful and infamous of all) seems to build tolerance to the point where you take the drug just to get to the same level of alertness as your old baseline. Then in order to reset your tolerance you have to go off the drug and experience a period of reduced wakefulness/motivation/efficacy. So I suppose I view stimulants as zero sum: they just allow you to borrow energy from the future, a debt which eventually must be repaid.

The same could be said for sedatives, you borrow sleep from the future. Or opiates, you borrow comfort.

I ask because I lack experience with the 'afinil' type drugs, and they work on different receptors (histamine agonist) rather than caffeine (adenosine antagonist) or amphetamines (adrenergic agonist). Curious, as always. Probably can't get armodafinil but can get flmodafinil, seems like it works pretty similarly.

Vyvanse was my favorite of all the aforementioned and IMO the best productivity aid that I've ever experienced, with Adderall a close second, but the price to mental and physical health is too high and for my addict brain these two are too difficult to control, especially Adderall. The afinils are supposedly less 'rewarding' to the dopamine circuitry of the brain, and seem to have less detriment to health

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Certainly can't argue with those results. Couple questions:

E2 stays in range on that level of injectable?

EQ acts to help control E2 for me, despite it's aromatization to E1; the net effect on estrogen balance is negative (lower) in my case.

So far, doesn't seem as suppressive of e2 compared to primo, however. Primo rapes my E2. And honestly, I'll probably never use an AI if I can just use a dash of primo.

I'm not far into big test blast right now, so I may need to either 1) add primo or 2) add an AI; we'll see though. Not gonna stress if I'm not getting any sides though.

Do you find anavar at that dose sustainable or is that only a short course item? It crushed my hdl by like 70% which is why I ditched it, otherwise I loved it.

Oxandrolone is my bae. I love her. It definitely crushes my cholesterol in all of the bad ways but I'm only going to run it for 1 more month and I'm dropping it completely. So, not concerned.

At what dose do you think that the SLUPP really becomes noticeable?

You know, it's really hard to say. I could've sworn I noticed it at the 10mg per day dose. But really, I don't "notice" much at all in terms of perceptible effects. I think what I notice the most is that despite my egregious eating, I'm staying relatively lean (for me based on past experience eating like an asshole).

Thanks for any info brother. Love to learn all I can from those more experiienced.

Yup, no problem man. Disclaimer: Your mileage may vary!

 

[Trenbolonetax]

I'm sure you'll be able to afford to spend 2 minutes 2x/wk. Only advantages I can see to test u would be if you have to leave the country or something and don't want to bring gear with you. There is some special concern around test u with oil embolism and I'm not sure if it's something to do with the oil used or just the larger volume in one shot but look into it maybe if you decide to use it.

Haha I'm not going anywhere anytime soon.

I think the concern around test U and oil embolism is the nebido preparation? I have test U in MCT so no different than all my other gear. I appreciate the heads up and words of caution, though.

I'm definitely not going to use it though. I really really dislike super long esters due to inability to adjust on the fly. I also feel best having peaks and troughs with test especially. I'm more OK with super stable mast + EQ levels. They weren't supposed to be in the body anyways, lol.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

"Above average." We men really do have body dysmorphia as bad as women, don't we?

Fuck. I realize how silly that sounds. Yes, my body dysmorphia is fucking horrid lol

 

[twreck555]

Haha I'm not going anywhere anytime soon.

I think the concern around test U and oil embolism is the nebido preparation? I have test U in MCT so no different than all my other gear. I appreciate the heads up and words of caution, though.

I'm definitely not going to use it though. I really really dislike super long esters due to inability to adjust on the fly. I also feel best having peaks and troughs with test especially. I'm more OK with super stable mast + EQ levels. They weren't supposed to be in the body anyways, lol.

Yes exactly, the nebido in particular. I had a feeling it was something to do with the oil but wasn't exactly sure. Thanks for all the info above, I appreciate you pioneering things and sharing your experiences. Some day I'll make use of the info

 

[Grey Spartan]

So I suppose I view stimulants as zero sum: they just allow you to borrow energy from the future, a debt which eventually must be repaid.

Smart man.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Smart man.

Very smart man!