tren micro-dose experiment

You got to be kidding me... how then I walk around 220 at 12-13% now on just trt? Go back to end of page 2, that's when I blasted "moderate" amounts. You don't know your shit, just stop man. There is a lot more to this than water retention...
Yeah and I walk around at 215 at 12-13% on trt and if you don't know how much water retention wet compounds are causing vs dry compounds how can you claim to know more about this stuff than me?
 
Yeah and I walk around at 215 at 12-13% on trt and if you don't know how much water retention these compounds are causing how can you claim to know more about this stuff than me?
Fuck it... Idk, maybe youll reinvent some shit and do a study on it explaining how we are all wrong and how AAS works lol. I'm done pointing out the obvious.
 
Yeah and I walk around at 215 at 12-13% on trt and if you don't know how much water retention wet compounds are causing vs dry compounds how can you claim to know more about this stuff than me?
215 at 12-13% make you in very good shape. Respectable actually. It does not make you knowledge in the effective and SAFE use of pharmaceutical drugs. Your entire concept of "no cycle" is ludicris and delusional, to the point of showing you have zero education wether it be self taught or taught by others, on how mechanism of action of drugs work or their direct impact of anabolism in the body. Don't be so arrogant and take advice from some of these guys. You're going to wind up hurting yourself.
 
Fuck it... Idk, maybe youll reinvent some shit and do a study on it explaining how we are all wrong and how AAS works lol. I'm done pointing out the obvious.
Well no it's not just me. When you hire an experienced bodybuilding coach they'll know how much bloat you're holding at any given time just by knowing the compounds you're using and by eyeballing how puffy you're looking.
 
Eyeballing how puffy you look? Cmon man, you're gonna hurt yourself bad. If we could see our blood at the cellular level we wouldn't need to get panels done. Do you sniff glue or something? Paint?
 
Eyeballing how puffy you look? Cmon man, you're gonna hurt yourself bad. If we could see our blood at the cellular level we wouldn't need to get panels done. Do you sniff glue or something? Paint?
Yeah when you listen to like Dave Palmbo he'll talk about how strict the regiment with all the androgens, stimulants, diuretics, carbs and how he knows how bloated someone is just by knowing the compounds they are on and looking at them:

View: https://youtu.be/mFw4FcCt_Eo?t=481


C'mon, you didn't know this?
 
@hometeam you're more like 18-20% by the way no offence and for 40 year old it's good, just no need to pretend experienced aas user. There are steroids that cause more water retention than others, also some cause more glycogen retention, it's called cosmetic effect. it's funny that you think I don't get it lol...
Maybe you wanna tell me what AAS can cause just pure contractile tissue gain and no water or glycogen retention at all? Damn, I would be interested in it so much... FIY even TRT causes water retention (although) mild.
 
@hometeam you're more like 18-20% by the way no offence and for 40 year old it's good, just no need to pretend experienced aas user. There are steroids that cause more water retention than others, also some cause more glycogen retention, it's called cosmetic effect. it's funny that you think I don't get it lol...
Maybe you wanna tell me what AAS can cause just pure contractile tissue gain and no water or glycogen retention at all? Damn, I would be interested in it so much... FIY even TRT causes water retention (although) mild.
I was 18-20% a few months ago but I've cut down since. This is from a month ago and I've lost a few lbs since:
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And primo, masteron, tren, winstrol, anavar will add weight to your frame with little to no bloat. If you really want to get into glycogen it's not going to add any more than a lb or two to your frame at most. It's a subtle thing.

Slowww's cycle was a primo cycle where he gained what people here said he couldn't. And then you had to chime in about not knowing how much he really gained because of the water retention as if it was a deca/dbol cycle. Then you had to make it a pissing match about how much more you think you know than me.
 
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All I'd prefer to say is microdosing some of these compounds is plain unnecessary. Once half lives are fully understood, it's just not needed. There's youtubers, one in particular who professes "every compound every day". That's insane, it's fetishizing the drugs. He states this for drugs for deca and equopoise as well. 14-17 day half lives. I don't do doses this high, but to keep the math easy let's day Deca at a dose of 600mg weekly. Follow one injection with a half life of 14 days.
Week 1- 600mg
Week 3- 300mg
Week 5- 150mg
Week 7- 75mg
The drug loses half it's circulatory potency in 14 days, but only half of that again in the next 14 days. This is why so many fear they've ruined their dick forever and do toxic PCT and use call kinds of other drugs. No, it has such a long half life you still have very high dosages of it in your bloodstream for months.
Follow that same math with 600mg a week every week for 20 weeks. Same for EQ, I get great results but I have a response to it that raises my blood pressure. After I stopped the drug, it took a month and a half for my BP to return to normal. That was on 300mg a week.
No pinning these drugs with half lives over 7 days every day, why? Just... why?
 
I was 18-20% a few months ago but I've cut down since. This is from a month ago and I've lost a few lbs since:
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And primo, masteron, tren, winstrol, anavar will add weight to your frame with little to no bloat. If you really want to get into glycogen it's not going to add any more than a lb or two to your frame at most. It's a subtle thing.

Slowww's cycle was a primo cycle where he gained what people here said he couldn't. And then you had to chime in about not knowing how much he really gained because of the water retention as if it was a deca/dbol cycle. Then you had to make it a pissing match about how much more you think you know than me.
Where is your shoulder , arm or trap definition ? Where is any veins what so ever ? Dude like I said your a delusional Reddit and YouTube idiot who has no clue . You look like you have a bow flex at home and do core work daily that’s it. Everyone is telling you and you won’t listen … but you think it’s just all of us who are wrong lol

Edit : also All you’re taking about is dry compounds do this or that… you can eat in a huge surplus and be fat no matter what compounds you take. You think every thing automatically turns to lean muscle for fucks sake !!! Jesus get a clue
 
Where is your shoulder , arm or trap definition ? Where is any veins what so ever ? Dude like I said your a delusional Reddit and YouTube idiot who has no clue . You look like you have a bow flex at home and do core work daily that’s it. Everyone is telling you and you won’t listen … but you think it’s just all of us who are wrong lol

Edit : also All you’re taking about is dry compounds do this or that… you can eat in a huge surplus and be fat no matter what compounds you take. You think every thing automatically turns to lean muscle for fucks sake !!! Jesus get a clue
Weren't you the one that said so adamently you can't gain 20-30lbs of lean muscle in a cycle only to be shown you're wrong? I mean I'd be embarrassed if I were you but yet you still want to flame on.

There are cycles you can turn more of the surplus calories into muscle than others. And I'm talking about wet and dry compounds because he's talking about water retention as if it's unpredictable and unquantifiable.
 
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Weren't you the one that said so adamently you can't gain 20-30lbs of lean muscle in a cycle only to be shown you're wrong? I mean I'd be embarrassed if I were you but yet you still want to flame on.

There are cycles you can turn more the surplus calories into muscle than others. And I'm talking about wet and dry compounds because he's talking about water retention.
Where was I shown I was wrong dummy ? Cause you posted Reddit and YouTube before and afters pics lol ….
 
Where was I shown I was wrong dummy ? Cause you posted Reddit and YouTube before and afters pics lol ….
Both Slowww and Vigorous Steve have done it:
 
Not looking for an argument, don't know you, and even if I did I still wouldn't debate you as you're not very receptive unless it's from a YouTube guru. Seems you prefer them over actual science, but you are certainly able to enjoy that. Me? I prefer proven medicine, it's kept a lot of people out of trouble over the years. Hope it all works out for you. And yes, you're absolutely 18%+BF currently. Sorry my guy.
 
Not looking for an argument, don't know you, and even if I did I still wouldn't debate you as you're not very receptive unless it's from a YouTube guru. Seems you prefer them over actual science, but you are certainly able to enjoy that. Me? I prefer proven medicine, it's kept a lot of people out of trouble over the years. Hope it all works out for you. And yes, you're absolutely 18%+BF currently. Sorry my guy.
I actually work in the medical field. You probably failed 10th grade biology. But there are some things you can only learn with experience. That's why we have clinicals and residencies.
 

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