Tren Cycle, first timer here... whoop whoop!!

Ughhh.. Just weighed 225lbs.. [}:)] Arms are down from 19.25" to a hair over 19". Last week should've been a big week in my cycle.. Pisses me off. Freaking rug rats running around at school picking up colds... I swear those places are like germ factories!! Oh well... Hopefully get back to 231 by next week sometime.

Chest today, still not feeling great but a little better. Strength was down. The past two days I haven't been getting pumps doing cardio which is great but I wonder why they stopped? :confused: I think by Friday I should be back to normal. I'm going to run TNE Friday, well, hopefully. Intensity has been up but I'm really gonna crank it next week when I'm 100%.

Like I said, dropping the ralox tonight and I'm gonna run nolva at 40mg instead of 30 for now. Gyno definitely got worse with the ralox, even at 120mg ED!! Since Saturday I was taking 60mg ralox and 20mg nolva and even though its only been a few days the nolva has brought it back down a tad.

I still have a bit of bio var and I want to keep running it but I have this winny too... Does anyone think it would be a horrible idea to run both at 40mg ED for 2 weeks??

I don't have experience with that stack, but you let me know how you like it ;)
 
Why not run them separately and consecutively? Both @ 40 are solid on their own so you might be wastin gains.

Anavar is good on the tendons so I would run the winny first. Winny is stronger in the recomp and shred department, so maybe the anavar will sustain the look.
 
I was reading an article about SSRIs raising Prolactin and causeing gyno. I couldn't find the article but did come accross this one and thought it might be of interest to some here
 
@ gunrunner- I read a similar article and some raised it more than others... it said nolva dosage was affected by ssri meds and some ssri meds rendered nolva useless... perhaps it is more the cancelling nolvas effectiveness than actually raising prolactin... just a thought.
 
@ gunrunner- I read a similar article and some raised it more than others... it said nolva dosage was affected by ssri meds and some ssri meds rendered nolva useless... perhaps it is more the cancelling nolvas effectiveness than actually raising prolactin... just a thought.

I've read that too brutus which is why I tried ralox for 2 weeks, that experiment failed miserably.. I take 15mg Paxil ED, which is a pretty small dose and I can tell you first hand nolva still works for me. Now is it as effective?? Probably not per the studies but being back on nolva for only 4 days now has got my gyno settled back down a little bit.
 
Back up to 228lbs!! :) Haha!! Crushing it.. I feel about 90%, still some lingering effects from the cold but no big deal..

So last night I was smashing it and couldn't bust a nut!! I finally just gave up and said I came a little(first thing that popped into my head to say). So is this tren dick?? :confused: Usually I have pretty good control and as long I didn't jack off that day I can pretty much bust on command. Just wasn't normal for me..

Anyway, feeling good and looking forward to tomorrow.. :)
 
I took 2ml (.2mg?) of Prami this morning. The shit made me insanely tired. I was literally falling asleep here at work. Then one of the girls who likes me came by and she always flirts with me. Well today i'm standing there talking with her and I start getting a woody.

Now I know why they say to take it at night. Take some, bust a nut and then go to sleep.
 
I took 2ml (.2mg?) of Prami this morning. The shit made me insanely tired. I was literally falling asleep here at work. Then one of the girls who likes me came by and she always flirts with me. Well today i'm standing there talking with her and I start getting a woody.

Now I know why they say to take it at night. Take some, bust a nut and then go to sleep.

All I can imagine is this cartoon shredded guy falling asleep at his desk with this massive throbbing veiny bastard of a boner and this girl with a big Eek! face. Funniest shit all day right there.
 
I took 2ml (.2mg?) of Prami this morning. The shit made me insanely tired. I was literally falling asleep here at work. Then one of the girls who likes me came by and she always flirts with me. Well today i'm standing there talking with her and I start getting a woody.

Now I know why they say to take it at night. Take some, bust a nut and then go to sleep.

2ml? Is it from CEM? Theirs is dosed at 1mg per ml.

I've been taking it for over a month now, I've only worked up to .4mg ED. There have been several nights when I increased the dose by a little too much and got very nauseous.
 
2ml? Is it from CEM? Theirs is dosed at 1mg per ml.

I've been taking it for over a month now, I've only worked up to .4mg ED. There have been several nights when I increased the dose by a little too much and got very nauseous.

Ok, the math kicked my ass on this one. 1ml = 1mg so sinced I used .2mg it was only .2ml (not 2ml). I told you I was tired[:o)]

Yeah, even .2mg/.2ml makes me nauseous.
 
Back to 230lbs, hopefully I keep climbing..:) Did arms today and whoa.. What a pump I got from that TNE, I wish I could've measured my arms right after that workout!!

Worth mentioning, all the acne has pretty much cleared up and I'm not getting aggravated/agitated anymore from the tren. Maybe it was just an initial reaction and now my body has adapted to it?? :confused: I have no idea, but I'm happy about it.

I'll be changing my protocol on Sunday a little bit.. Upping tren to 70mg ED, dropping var to 40mg, adding winny at 40mg, adding a low dose NPP, and considering going from 4iu to 5iu with the rips. I'm also about out of bio sust so switching over to bio prop. :D I'm hoping for a couple big weeks!!

Diet has been great this week, got every meal in with no shake substitutions.. And it's been clean!!:cool:
 
Might as well post this here too.. My review of Astro's TNE:

I finally was able to try Astro's TNE today.. I've heard alot of things about it having a horrible smell so I actually took it outside when I was loading the syringe..[:o)] It wasn't that bad at all though, definitely not a pleasant smell but not as overpowering as I thought it would be, kind of like bug spray.. I pinned 100mg 1.5 hours preworkout.

It was arm day which usually takes about 75min and at the 45 min mark I'm usually a little drained. I was able to finish in just over an hour and still had the energy to do more so endurance was definitely up. The other thing I noticed was more intense pumps, I'd say they were on par with what 30mg of good dbol a day gives me.

I can't say I "felt" it.. I thought there would be a more profound "feeling" or maybe an additional strength boost, the main benefit IMO are the pumps and the dramatic increase in endurance. I've read reports of increased heart rate after pinning and thankfully that didn't seem to happen to me.

The other thing I've read alot about is guys using it pre-bedroom, I didn't notice any increase in libido but mine is already through the roof so TIFWIW..

So, to sum up, it definitely helped my endurance big time and also made for some great pumps. It's something I'll continue to use once in a while as needed, maybe once a week or so..:cool:
 
Did shoulders and traps today, really cranked up the intensity.. For the first time I was able to do 225lbsx10 for behind the neck shoulder press.. :)

Still floating around 230lbs which is frustrating.. I was close to that a month ago, that week of being sick fucked me up, gains were coming up until that point..

I've been trying to eat a little more the past few days, force feeding..:( This is really getting to be alot of work but I gotta get over this hump!! I'd be happy with 235 by next Monday..

Posting pics next week..:cool:
 
Did shoulders and traps today, really cranked up the intensity.. For the first time I was able to do 225lbsx10 for behind the neck shoulder press.. :)

Still floating around 230lbs which is frustrating.. I was close to that a month ago, that week of being sick fucked me up, gains were coming up until that point..

I've been trying to eat a little more the past few days, force feeding..:( This is really getting to be alot of work but I gotta get over this hump!! I'd be happy with 235 by next Monday..

Posting pics next week..:cool:

Looking forward to the pics dude. Wait, that's not your ass in your avi?:sly:
 
I hit the gym today and I'll do the same in the morning.. Might do a shot if TNE.. :)

So I said screw it and had a six pack of Heineken tonight.. First time I've drank in a couple months I think, man, they were good!! :) Probably wasn't the brightest idea since I'm on 40mg var and 40mg winny but fuck it I had a great Thanksgiving and I hope you all did too!!
 
I hit the gym today and I'll do the same in the morning.. Might do a shot if TNE.. :)

So I said screw it and had a six pack of Heineken tonight.. First time I've drank in a couple months I think, man, they were good!! :) Probably wasn't the brightest idea since I'm on 40mg var and 40mg winny but fuck it I had a great Thanksgiving and I hope you all did too!!

Dam your lucky I couldn't drink on cycle I tried it two or three times and got a massive migraine... :(
 
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