Tren acetate brewing issues

[Photon]

Gentlemen, I really wouldn't care what it looks like if it could be cooked normally. But if it can't be dissolved like I've always done before, and it looks different, then I guess there's something wrong with it?
I'm just wondering if it's actually raw trenbolone but spoiled, or if it's not trenbolone at all. So I'll send it to Janoshik.

TRBE will not dissolve with 20% BB.
It'll be grainy like what you showed, which is what was suspected.
Sometimes you get TREN raws that has TRBE in it, which makes a grainy brew which can be filtered out.

It can turn into the color you showed, if you heat it till it oxides or degrades.

Why would you not care how it looks?
If it looks different -- it probably has impurities.
You dissolve those impurities with BB and inject it.

Jano has testing that has shown raws with pharmaceutical medications in them, one of them even being medication for Alzheimer which can cause serious issues long term.

 

[Bambaloo]

Of course, I agree with you. I didn't mean to imply that I don't care what's in the powder. I've never used trenbolone base, so it's hard for me to judge. The only thing I can say is that it doesn't look like tren enanthate or tren acetate, as I've used those many times. We'll see what Janoshik has to say.

 

[Bambaloo]

Sometimes you get TREN raws that has TRBE in it, which makes a grainy brew which can be filtered out.

I tried to filter the suspension I showed in the beaker, but the 0.45um filter clogged immediately.

 

[Photon]

I tried to filter the suspension I showed in the beaker, but the 0.45um filter clogged immediately.

It might be tren base, tren base won't hold at 2/20 but your raw color indicates it's not likely to be tren.

 

[Bambaloo]

The photo does not show the colors exactly as in real life, but one thing is certain: the consistency and behavior in the solvent indicate that it is not trenbolone ace/enanthate, we'll see what janoshik says after the test.

 

[Bambaloo]

And maybe I'm naive, but I believe the supplier wasn't trying to deceive me; he's convinced it was tren ace. I think he wasn't even aware of what he was selling, because everything was fine until now.

 

[eery]

And maybe I'm naive, but I believe the supplier wasn't trying to deceive me; he's convinced it was tren ace. I think he wasn't even aware of what he was selling, because everything was fine until now.

a lot of these resellers dont know what they are selling or how its supposed to look, ive seen them pass off EQ as a powder for example and they thought the customer was talking about finished oil when he said that EQ is a liquid at room temperature. So its not a crazy claim.

 

[Nytol1]

A basic melting point test would be an easy rough start.

 

[Photon]

Here in the 10ml bottle you can see finish product from that tren e which is bottom, I also tested it months ago.
Also in beaker you can see that "tren ace"

Did you get your results?
I'm curious what it is.
White powder that turns red.

 

[Bambaloo]

not yet, probably this week janoshik will receive it

 

[justtrtbro]

Very curious to see what the test says. I'd be furious if a source in trusted and bought from several times pulled some bs. On the other hand I get the impression many are just reshippers, and never actually deal with the content or know too well how to identify what they're shipping. Good luck bro keep us posted!

 

[Bambaloo]

Just got result from janoshik, its trenbolone acetate with 80% purity

 

[Bambaloo]

Now, I'm asking seriously: does this result mean I can filter out what hasn't dissolved, and it's enough to consider the 80% content of the substance when calculating the concentration of the finished product? Or does this mean that the product is so contaminated that it's unsuitable for production? Logically, it's unclear what the remaining 20% is, and how much of it will be filtered out and how much will remain in the product? Am I understanding this correctly?

 

[Photon]

Logically, it's unclear what the remaining 20% is, and how much of it will be filtered out and how much will remain in the product? Am I understanding this correctly?

Yes
You do not know how much is soluble and how much is insoluble.
Maybe 10% of crap A dissolved, and 10% of crap B is undissolved and left behind.

At 80% I'd get a refund..
There are vendors selling with higher purity here..
God knows whats in the 20%..

 

[dinfar1337]

Just got result from janoshik, its trenbolone acetate with 80% purity

been watching this thread for some time, what vendor is it?

 

[pheno609]

@Bambaloo I am also curious what vendor sold you those raws

 

[Oat King]

I received a batch of trenbolone acetate that wouldn't dissolve. I normally use 18% BB, 1.5% BA, and GSO. The raw material is more like sand than powder, and its yellow color is paler than usual. I raised the temperature slowly, but the raw material wouldn't dissolve. I reached such high temperatures that the oil started to turn very dark, and the raw material still wouldn't dissolve. Eventually, it partially degraded and turned into a sticky tar. Does anyone have any ideas? I've done this many times before and never had this problem. I think it's a problem with the raw material, has anyone had a similar experience?

Newbie here. Have you tried testing it's melting point? Real Tren Ace should melt at 94-97°C (201-207F) plus you could see adulterants burn off? Obviously this isn't an actual Jano test but a simple easy to do test?

 

[Bambaloo]

Newbie here. Have you tried testing it's melting point? Real Tren Ace should melt at 94-97°C (201-207F) plus you could see adulterants burn off? Obviously this isn't an actual Jano test but a simple easy to do test?

I already did jano test and GCMS screening. It shows 80% purity tren acetate and nothing else. GCMS detected only trenbolone acetate - no volatile degradation products were detected. "Whatever the remaining 20% are, GCMS is unable to detect it, as it is, most likely, not volatile."

 

[pheno609]

I already did jano test and GCMS screening. It shows 80% purity tren acetate and nothing else. GCMS detected only trenbolone acetate - no volatile degradation products were detected. "Whatever the remaining 20% are, GCMS is unable to detect it, as it is, most likely, not volatile."

Was the source from meso, or was it from somewhere else?

 

[pheno609]

From what i can gather, it may or may not have been WtsBulk Hormones based on his recent threads (although i am entirely making an assumption here, his last post in that thread was from months ago. They are a trusted source and one of few with tren a raws). Which is unfortunate because i was about to buy their tren e raws. Forgive my ignorance for making assumptions, i was super close to buying from anna but now i likely will not just to be safe. I dont know why he wont tell us the source, it would likely save people in the meso community alot of money because the crazy high prices lately