Trembo and Winstrol Cycle

[Javier1704]

I'm about to start a Winstrol and Trembolone cycle. My height is 6'3 and weight 263. I used to train 1 year ago and lost 83 pounds in 6 months (dieting and training, no steroids or supplements). Now I lost everything I achieved. On my way starting again I had to make an observation, I was skinny but fluffly. Now I want to do same diet (2500 calories eating 6-7 times a day), weight training and run 3 miles 3 times a week. This cycle is supposed to help me achieve my goal faster? I mean, to where I was before? I'm new to steroids and I've read you need to stack it with a testosterone but I don't want to go with that. If trembolone and winstrol are a good cycle (both injected with needle), what's a good cycle for them? Thank you so much.


PS: I understand this may have been asked hundreds of times but I just can't find any post. Thank you.

 

[heavyiron]

Trenbolone is pretty strong. Since you are new to steroids I would advise you use testosterone first. Testosterone is a great first cycle choice and has been proven to help with fat loss when following a standardized diet.

 

[Samue]

Why wouldn't you want to use test?

 

[Shadowz]

To be completly honest it sounds like you might want to get a slightly more devloped diet before starting a cycle, esp one of that magnitude.. i would personally recommend something a little "lighter" for your 1st cycle as well, you can go basic with 500mg test cyp or eth per week(the only true difference is +1 carbon molecule in cyp) and followed with your Winny and/or even t-bol orals for a jump start .. AND do not forget PCT!

 

[Javier1704]

Thank you a lot guys. Prob with test is that I'm 19 years old and a bodybuilder told me it could cause a loss of balance in my test production. How do I use winstrol? 2 times per week? I already got trembolone

 

[arronz]

Tren will kill your cardio, so good luck with the 3 mile run.

 

[Fulano]

Thank you a lot guys. Prob with test is that I'm 19 years old and a bodybuilder told me it could cause a loss of balance in my test production. How do I use winstrol? 2 times per week? I already got trembolone

Any anabolic steroid is going to screw up your natural testosterone production. All anabolic steroids are functional analogues of testosterone (in one way or another) and so when you flood your body with them, they all induce your body to quit producing natural testosterone.

Some anabolic steroids are MORE POTENT at shutting off your natural testosterone production than is testosterone itself. Both trenbolone and winstrol will shut down your natural testosterone.

Why should you take testosterone? Some of your natural testosterone is converted into small amounts estrogen. Small amounts of estrogen are necessary for proper hormone balance in men. Neither trenbolone nor winstrol is converted into estrogen. So, what happens when you take them and they shut down your natural testosterone production? Now, you have no estrogen and you suffer various problems.

So, there are a couple ways to look at a stack with tren and winny:

1) Make testosterone the foundation of your stack, and then add smaller doses of tren and winny to that..

2) Make tren the foundation of your stack and add just enough testosterone to replace your natural testosterone which will shut off once you start taking all that tren.

Tren can have unpleasant side effects, and most newbies should probably not go with option #2. If anything, option #1 is a much better idea for a first cycle. (Although testosterone-only and dianabol-only cycles are very popular first cycles.)

 

[Silva]

If you are decided, run also proviron.

 

[Silva]

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2) Make tren the foundation of your stack and add just enough testosterone to replace your natural testosterone which will shut off once you start taking all that tren.

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This is the best option but he does not want to take testosterone.

 

[Fulano]

This is the best option but he does not want to take testosterone.

I disagree that #2 is the best option. High-dose tren is not a generally recommendable first cycle.

with regard to not wanting to take testosterone: His main reason is lack of knowledge about steroids. That is why I'm trying to help educate him. Hopefully after he learns more about steroids he will want to use testosterone.

 

[Silva]

I disagree that #2 is the best option. High-dose tren is not a generally recommendable first cycle.

with regard to not wanting to take testosterone: His main reason is lack of knowledge about steroids. That is why I'm trying to help educate him. Hopefully after he learns more about steroids he will want to use testosterone.

If the goal is to cut, I'd do without test or just with physiological levels. If tren is the base cycle does not mean it have to be taking in high doses, may even pyramidal and know the limits. And if he wants to cut, can not have high levels of estrogen and prolactin. And progestational side effects are more common when tren Is taken with aromatizable steroids.

 

[loveyourbody]

19 to young bro
guys don't let this kid distroy him self
wait a few more years u will be happy u did
at ur age I can cause perminate damage
for ex...
1-might make u sterile
2-can damage ur test production for life ur body is making shit load right now if u can get big like that steriods won't help u at all
3-if number 2 happens u will be on TRT for the rest of your life and that isn't cheap

lots more reasons but these should be kind of given u an idea

SO WAIT

Oh other stuff if u can't keep weight off naturally u think steriods are a short cut hell no bro they r to get u past ur genetic limit I'm 5'5 I'm pretty sure I'm not ment to be a muscle head
I'm starting to get pissed off teen are so stupid makes me not want to have kids and all u telling him what to do shame on u lead him the right way
eat healthy, train right, lift for at least 7years then juice if u can't do those simple things just give up now before I see u on the news
Sry if I sound like a dick but trying to save ur ass bro

 

[Javier1704]

I understand, so after reading all this, I think I will only use Winstrol and sell the trembo to someone else. I just want a faster way to get to where I was. Thank you guys for all the help. One last thing, If I go with winstrol only... how many times per week I should take it?

 

[Fulano]

You say you understand, and then you say you're going to take Winstrol only. If you're going to take winstrol only, you don't understand.