Transferring oils for long term storage

Really neat project. How much of this project is just because you are a collector? Similar to baseball cards.

Is there any chance you actually use even 75% of this gear?

Do you think there is a significant risk of not being able to find these in 3 years? (If you look at availability over the past 50 years it's just getting easier and easier to get these compounds). This shortage is temporary. As long as demand exists people will find a way to supply.

When it freezes does it expand much? Is there a risk of vial rupture?

Assuming these compounds are available 3 years from now you would rather use your frozen old stuff rather than fresh? Or will you trash these and buy new stuff.

If this truly is the end - and these are unavailable forever - this is a big brain move.
It's mostly a mindset thing. I wouldn't consider myself a collector, as nearly all of my hobbies have a practical application. The rationale behind this is partly that I like to have things that I use and consider important in adequate supply at all times. I can't know what the future holds for the PED market, but I know that most everything I bought is already more expensive than it was when I bought it. That's not to say prices won't come down again, but I'm happy with the prices I paid. I also don't like the idea of only having small amounts of what I like to take, and being at the mercy of price increases, shortages, quality concerns, and other annoyances, even if they are temporary.

I suspect I will eventually be able to get through the vast majority of what I have, maybe not all of the test though. Depends on how long my health permits moderate AAS use without too much risk.

Oil actually contracts when frozen. I believe water is unique in its property of expanding when in a solid state, so no worries with ruptured vials.

I don't plan to trash anything, and would trust the quality and potency of freezer stored AAS nearly equally to freshly made product. Degradation of the API and oxidation of the oil is at a near standstill when stored at these temperatures, which is the whole point.

I don't think AAS is going anywhere, but the fact that we could face similar shortages and price hikes in the future was enough reason for me to secure my supply and not have to worry about it again. Peace of mind
 
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Today I started the arduous tasks of prepping ~350 vials for freezer storage. I want to take this opportunity to thank the sources that pay the slight premium in price to offer top quality stoppers and seals/caps. The amount of time it takes to apply the sticker seals is hugely reduced when I don't have to use my fingernail to push down a bunch of sharp metal protrusions from Every. Single. Vial. It gets really old. It absolutely has affected who I buy from now as most of what I buy now is getting the long term storage treatment.

Here's an example of a poor quality cap:

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Of the ~350, I only got 50 vials prepped today, all mast prop:

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Here's an interesting update on some previously frozen vials. The tren ace from one source has a homogenous look, while another looks almost like tapioca pudding with patches of white and yellow spread throughout. Both are 100mg/ml, but the homogeneous one is in GSO, while the patchy one is in MCT. I don't imagine this is in any way relevant to anything of concern, but I still found it interesting. All tren A examples from each source were nearly identical to the ones shown here:

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Today I started the arduous tasks of prepping ~350 vials for freezer storage. I want to take this opportunity to thank the sources that pay the slight premium in price to offer top quality stoppers and seals/caps. The amount of time it takes to apply the sticker seals is hugely reduced when I don't have to use my fingernail to push down a bunch of sharp metal protrusions from Every. Single. Vial. It gets really old. It absolutely has affected who I buy from now as most of what I buy now is getting the long term storage treatment.

Here's an example of a poor quality cap:

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Of the ~350, I only got 50 vials prepped today, all mast prop:

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Here's an interesting update on some previously frozen vials. The tren ace from one source has a homogenous look, while another looks almost like tapioca pudding with patches of white and yellow spread throughout. Both are 100mg/ml, but the homogeneous one is in GSO, while the patchy one is in MCT. I don't imagine this is in any way relevant to anything of concern, but I still found it interesting. All tren A examples from each source were nearly identical to the ones shown here:

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Those poor quality with silicone stoppers, you are leaving it in those vials?
 
Those poor quality with silicone stoppers, you are leaving it in those vials?
I actually see them as a possible benefit when freezing, which is the only application I think they have any chance of being superior in. Since the BB within the vial won't have any contact with the stopper as they'll be frozen upright, the leeching issue is of little to no concern. The benefit I see is that silicon is superior to other stopper materials in its ability to deal with both low and high temps. I see silicon as being the least likely stopper material to shrink and compromise the vial seal.
 
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