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I won’t post about my wife any more just in case it is what started all of these “cheating spouse” discussions!

CYCLE ADVICE: I have been running short 7-8 week blasts with short esters for a few years now. Going to try something different.

W1-20 Test C 250mg wk (I cruise on 160mg)
W1-20 EQ 500-600mg wk

This is the question part
W1-7 TrenA 300-400 wk
W8-13 ?
W14-20 TrenA 300-400 wk

Using tren as a kickstart and finisher instead of orals is my thought process. I have kickstarted like this before, but never run it on the back end. I don’t really run orals any more.

Thoughts? Problems? I have only run EQ for 14 weeks previous, but want to try 20.

Edit: I posted in this thread because I have a pretty good grasp on who knows what they are talking about vs who is regurgitating bro science. Thanks!

Last summer I did 500-600 of Test, 600 EQ and then 8 weeks of TrenA at the end around 400 (first run with Tren and gradually increased it during the 8 weeks from 250-550). It’s a long cycle and you feel beat up at the end but the EQ gives you a round full look to counteract the way the Tren flattens dudes out. I was very pleased with the way I looked.

Run the first 7 weeks of Tren lower at 200-250. That’s just to satisfy immediate gratification. I don’t think you need a middle compound for weeks 8-13. That’s when the EQ will start to kick in so that’s your middle compound. Then running TrenA for the last 6 weeks with the EQ gives you the extra bump to get thru the plateau. TrenA and EQ work great together.
 
Last summer I did 500-600 of Test, 600 EQ and then 8 weeks of TrenA at the end around 400 (first run with Tren and gradually increased it during the 8 weeks from 250-550). It’s a long cycle and you feel beat up at the end but the EQ gives you a round full look to counteract the way the Tren flattens dudes out. I was very pleased with the way I looked.

Run the first 7 weeks of Tren lower at 200-250. That’s just to satisfy immediate gratification. I don’t think you need a middle compound for weeks 8-13. That’s when the EQ will start to kick in so that’s your middle compound. Then running TrenA for the last 6 weeks with the EQ gives you the extra bump to get thru the plateau. TrenA and EQ work great together.
This is a good idea
 
Nope way worse I lost hard core both times. Didn’t get shit to show for it either. I don’t even get child support from my children’s dad who I was married to for 8 years. Mother fucker doesn’t work and is homeless in and out of jail for a meth addiction. On the bright side I suppose I technically won because I don’t have to put up with that douche anymore and I got my kids.
Second one was even worse. Luckily I didn’t marry him or have kids but way worse outcome. Promise you we get fucked over worse a lot of the times too!

No you don’t. It might feel this way but it’s false.

Perhaps your emotions feel that way, but when a man and a woman get married it is a bad investment for the man unless a prenup is signed.

Now if we are talking about being in a committed relationship not married and getting fucked.... sure perhaps... emotionally, but again,not financially.
 
Plenty of dudes in this thread have run DHB, and I'm almost certain that 100mg eod or 400mg per week is plenty with that compound. @Roger rabbit has a friend I think, or a friends friend, that runs alot of dhb... maybe he will chime in.

400dhb is plenty.

Gotta be careful with dhb since it is a dense compound. Going into the 700+ range per week can be problematic unless you have a lot of great site locations to inject. I’ve heard of several taking larger doses and ended up with pretty gnarly steril abscess because so much was being injected the compound couldn’t break down in site before next injection.

So 400-500 is what I would recommend.
 
You are one of the people that I hoped would give some input. Thanks!

I thought about the 10/10 split with DHB. I even bought the DHB.

There is limited info out there on DHB. some say it is a shorter ester EQ and others say it is not. That is one of the reasons I wasn’t sure about running it on this blast?

My last 2 blasts were NPP so giving that a rest for a little bit. It doesn’t act like Deca for me personally.

That’s kinda why I ended up considering TrenA on the front and back?

If anyone has run EQ and DHB, let me know and what did you run the DHB at?


Brah
1-4 anavar 50mg
1-16 dhb 500
1-16 test 250
8-16 tren ace (have you ran tren before)
 
400dhb is plenty.

Gotta be careful with dhb since it is a dense compound. Going into the 700+ range per week can be problematic unless you have a lot of great site locations to inject. I’ve heard of several taking larger doses and ended up with pretty gnarly steril abscess because so much was being injected the compound couldn’t break down in site before next injection.

So 400-500 is what I would recommend.
We’re you looking through my window last night ? I just had problems last night hitting 150mgs of DHB in my upper left quad. Had a huge lump after and it’s all bruised up today. Doesn’t hurt much but I was thinking I didn’t rotate injection site properly. Loosing track lately, I’m a damn pin cushion.
 
We’re you looking through my window last night ? I just had problems last night hitting 150mgs of DHB in my upper left quad. Had a huge lump after and it’s all bruised up today. Doesn’t hurt much but I was thinking I didn’t rotate injection site properly. Loosing track lately, I’m a damn pin cushion.

I mean, it’s not like he’s gonna admit it
 
We’re you looking through my window last night ? I just had problems last night hitting 150mgs of DHB in my upper left quad. Had a huge lump after and it’s all bruised up today. Doesn’t hurt much but I was thinking I didn’t rotate injection site properly. Loosing track lately, I’m a damn pin cushion.
Keep an injection log bro
 
I won’t post about my wife any more just in case it is what started all of these “cheating spouse” discussions!

CYCLE ADVICE: I have been running short 7-8 week blasts with short esters for a few years now. Going to try something different.

W1-20 Test C 250mg wk (I cruise on 160mg)
W1-20 EQ 500-600mg wk

This is the question part
W1-7 TrenA 300-400 wk
W8-13 ?
W14-20 TrenA 300-400 wk

Using tren as a kickstart and finisher instead of orals is my thought process. I have kickstarted like this before, but never run it on the back end. I don’t really run orals any more.

Thoughts? Problems? I have only run EQ for 14 weeks previous, but want to try 20.

Edit: I posted in this thread because I have a pretty good grasp on who knows what they are talking about vs who is regurgitating bro science. Thanks!
10 weeks npp 4-600 per week
8 weeks Tren A 3-600 depending on how comfortable you are with using tren.
 
@MoTren now that I think about it, @Urgentfury12 is right. I totally spaced on this when I threw DHB out there because in my mind I was trying to giva you a good lean bulking compound, and totally didnt think about the fact that EQ would be ram in the background for 20 weeks. I think maybe the 2 together would be a little much, especially when it comes to red blood cell count, but I could be wrong. Without orals, and since you are giving NPP a break, the only other compound I can think of would be Mast P, but it's more of a polisher anyways. You could throw PrimoA in that middle slot, but the PIP is outrageous lol. I'm still thinking though

So we are all on the same page that EQ and DHB might be a little much run together.

In the past, Mast hasn’t added a lot to a “lean bulk” cycle for me. Since I am giving NPP a little break, this is where I came up with the potential of TrenA on the front and back of the cycle.

Let me know if you think of anything else.. Thanks.
 
So we are all on the same page that EQ and DHB might be a little much run together.

In the past, Mast hasn’t added a lot to a “lean bulk” cycle for me. Since I am giving NPP a little break, this is where I came up with the potential of TrenA on the front and back of the cycle.

Let me know if you think of anything else.. Thanks.

You don’t need both
Run your dhb for 16 weeks with small amount of test (250-300)
Throw your tren in last 8 weeks to the cycle
 
So we are all on the same page that EQ and DHB might be a little much run together.

In the past, Mast hasn’t added a lot to a “lean bulk” cycle for me. Since I am giving NPP a little break, this is where I came up with the potential of TrenA on the front and back of the cycle.

Let me know if you think of anything else.. Thanks.
I think DHB and EQ are a bit much together. I’d just pick one or the other, can’t go wrong with either in my experience. I’m no expert and a rookie with the DHB, right now with the Tren A in the mix I’m really digging the results.
 
Last summer I did 500-600 of Test, 600 EQ and then 8 weeks of TrenA at the end around 400 (first run with Tren and gradually increased it during the 8 weeks from 250-550). It’s a long cycle and you feel beat up at the end but the EQ gives you a round full look to counteract the way the Tren flattens dudes out. I was very pleased with the way I looked.

Run the first 7 weeks of Tren lower at 200-250. That’s just to satisfy immediate gratification. I don’t think you need a middle compound for weeks 8-13. That’s when the EQ will start to kick in so that’s your middle compound. Then running TrenA for the last 6 weeks with the EQ gives you the extra bump to get thru the plateau. TrenA and EQ work great together.

Exactly what I was thinking when I came up with the idea. You just said it better than me. Thanks for the input!
 
You don’t need both
Run your dhb for 16 weeks with small amount of test (250-300)
Throw your tren in last 8 weeks to the cycle

We have gotten a little sidetracked with the DHB discussion. The original question was about running TrenA on the front and back of a 20 week EQ cycle and has anyone done something like this?

W1-20 EQ 500-600 wk
W1-20 TestC 250 wk
W1-7 TrenA 300-400 wk
W14-20 TrenA 300-400 wk

Thanks @BigBaldBeardGuy and @Jrock83 for the input!
 
I have a buddy who I lost for 6 years of my life because he became such an arrogant cock sucker because he started falling in love with this super hot chick. He did everything for her. They got married and had 2 kids. He is a sales rep for a large company and left on a trip and found these post-it notes all over of “10 reason why I am madly in love with you”. When he returned 3 days later all of her stuff was gone. After repeated attempts she finally answered and began to tell him that she had an affair on him. Well not just “a” affair but is leading a second a life and liked to have multiple partners at once and has had 3 guys at once. Said it’s her fault and it’s been going for 3 years. It happened on lunch breaks at work, before work, random happy hours. So if you’re on tren and think your girl isn’t cheating she very well could be.

I’d be down to have a semi-open relationship with a woman so long as somethings remain sacred. Of course it doesn’t appear as tho there was any such agreement here so it’s pretty f’d up.
 

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