Thoughts and comments on Ray Williams World Record Squat Raw with Sleeves

[franchise24]

This is an extraordinary accomplishment. I know the federation that he competes in is tested. Do you think that these lifters in the the tested federations are completely drug free?

I personally don't think that they are completely drug free. They can pin TNE, pop halo and cheque drops on meet day. I don't believe they test during and after competition. Definitely not trying to take anything away from this guy. He is strong ASF. If he is completely drug free that is awesome. I would love to see what he could squat on gear.

 

[Gobuckeyes0122]

This is an extraordinary accomplishment. I know the federation that he competes in is tested. Do you think that these lifters in the the tested federations are completely drug free?

I personally don't think that they are completely drug free. They can pin TNE, pop halo and cheque drops on meet day. I don't believe they test during and after competition. Definitely not trying to take anything away from this guy. He is strong ASF. If he is completely drug free that is awesome. I would love to see what he could squat on gear.

Guys a beast.

 

[franchise24]

Guys a beast.

That last attempt went up pretty good. He definitely could have added some more weight. We will see him break that 1053 record.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

This is an extraordinary accomplishment. I know the federation that he competes in is tested. Do you think that these lifters in the the tested federations are completely drug free?

I personally don't think that they are completely drug free. They can pin TNE, pop halo and cheque drops on meet day. I don't believe they test during and after competition. Definitely not trying to take anything away from this guy. He is strong ASF. If he is completely drug free that is awesome. I would love to see what he could squat on gear.

So much stuff you can take that doesn't show on tests - even testosterone up to a certain point. With proper medical supervision, why wouldn't you want to crowd the limit?

The saddest thing with the tested federations (and all the other bans on PEDs everywhere) is that sensible use, which helps with recovery, and helps reduce risk of early onset arthritis etc is withheld from those who push their bodies the most and would benefit the most.

Separate topic, separate thread.


Awesome squat - hats off. My own 4 plate best is not even worthy of his warmup.... ha ha ha ha - I suck.

 

[franchise24]

So much stuff you can take that doesn't show on tests - even testosterone up to a certain point. With proper medical supervision, why wouldn't you want to crowd the limit?

The saddest thing with the tested federations (and all the other bans on PEDs everywhere) is that sensible use, which helps with recovery, and helps reduce risk of early onset arthritis etc is withheld from those who push their bodies the most and would benefit the most.

Separate topic, separate thread.


Awesome squat - hats off. My own 4 plate best is not even worthy of his warmup.... ha ha ha ha - I suck.

I agree. I debate this topic of PED use for football players or any contact sport. If it's allowed the playing field will be fair. Obviously those that genetic freaks will always be better.

Definitely hats off. My 525 with wraps is his warm-up as well. Lol. I can't even unrack 1000lbs. Lol.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

I can't even unrack 1000lbs.

Even if you could unrack it, would you dare?

Better be inside a sturdy cage - not out in the open.

Jeesus that's a lot of weight.

When I tried to look him up (weight, height) I found this Ray Williams Ray Williams (weightlifter) - Wikipedia - damn, he's acquired quite a deep tan lately. LOL

From what I can gather (couldn't find any single good page about his current stats) it sounds like he's 6' even and weighs at least 360lbs. If so, that's nearly a 3X BW squat for a HUGE guy. Impressive indeed.

 

[franchise24]

Yeah I tried to find stats on him as well. I've seen his Instagram page. He's quite the athlete. Seen him doing things that men his size shouldn't be capable of doing. Lol.

I wouldn't dare unrack 1000 lbs. I did a static hold of 650 the other day and that taxed me pretty good.
Yeah he has gotten a lot darker and bigger since that pic. Lol!!!

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I don't think anyone at that level is natty. The tested and untested records are so close together it's the only thing that makes sense.

 

[franchise24]

I don't think anyone at that level is natty. The tested and untested records are so close together it's the only thing that makes sense.

Those are exact thoughts. There is always a way around testing.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Here's a couple charts I found comparing records. The tested and untested are just too close. In my opinion the slight edge to untested is due to being able to go full blast with no worries. Tested has to work around the drug tests and must take a little off their strength.

 

[franchise24]

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Here's a couple charts I found comparing records. The tested and untested are just too close. In my opinion the slight edge to untested is due to being able to go full blast with no worries. Tested has to work around the drug tests and must take a little off their strength.

Thanks for the charts. That is a very small difference between the two.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I guess the charts are old or they'd have the new tested squat on them.