Third Cycle

BumpassHell

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Hey all—

I’m planning to start a 16-week cycle on 2/24. I’m currently on 220 mg/week Test Cyp, and preparing for a blast of 400 mg Test Cyp, 200 mg Primo, and 150 mg NPP. Primo is primarily for gains and E2 control; NPP is for gains and joint support. I haven’t run NPP before. This will be my third cycle, and I may titrate doses up depending on response.

Current stats: 194 lb at 6'0" (≈88 kg, 183 cm). My goal is to gain ~10 lb of lean mass.

In the second week of December, I was hit by a car while riding my bike, which was a major setback. Fortunately, there were no major injuries—mostly extensive bruising, stiffness, and soreness that are gradually resolving—but it has impacted my training in a few ways:
  • Right shoulder: Significant pain that feels like a constant charley horse. Strength is currently ~10–15% lower than the left on shoulder-involved movements.
  • Left elbow: Significant pain in pronation; I cannot lift in a pronated position and have adapted by keeping movements as supinated as possible.
  • General upper-body tightness: Persistent, diffuse “thready” pain that doesn’t limit training much but does affect quality of life and sleep. I wake up 1–2 times per night from positional pain and need light mobility work to settle things down.
I expect another month for these issues to largely resolve, which is why I’ve targeted 2/24 for the cycle start.

My usual split is PPL / Rest / UL / Rest, though this has been in flux recently to accommodate the injuries.

I side-hustle as a backcountry ski guide during the winter—lots of cardio, high caloric expenditure, and early mornings. This workload will taper starting the third week of February.

Between now and then, I’m dialling in my diet. I eat very clean, but I’m not currently tracking calories. I meal-prep consistently, rarely eat out, and only occasionally graze on whatever my wife and kids leave around. My goal is to have three solid weeks of calorie tracking before starting the blast. I’m capable of tracking accurately, but I find it annoying—it’s a habit I need to re-train.

Appreciate any thoughts.
 
Resolve your issues first. Starting to get stronger while injured can lead you down a nasty road.
Do physiotherapy (important), do the whole repair peptide (dose excessively, for long periods of time) thing, etc.

If youve got diffuse nerve pain, my condolences.
Dermorphine (the peptide) can be nice if you have pain induced sleeping issues, but dont get dependent on it. order 1 kit max, and break up usage with 2-3 weeks breaks in between usage periods and 48 hours between usages.

The gear is fine, Test+ DHT derivative+ 19-nor. Nothing wrong with that.
But please, dont push through injuries and take your time. I know its tempting to start pushing as soon as you are doing a bit better, but you will feel a lot better if you just recover properly.
 
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