TheScholarOfBrew - Trenbolone Acetate 100mg/ml 3rd party

[Photon]

Maybe this will help manufacturers?

This will not help in any way.
The raw market exists due to imperfect raws.

You want people to keep buying, in hopes of getting better raws.
Raws however cannot be so bad that people don't ever come back.

Selling >98% raws results in people buying once, and then never coming back, because they don't have to, ever.

Selling 88% raws? People will keep coming back, in hopes of getting newer batches, that are better. There is every incentive to keep raws slightly impure.

 

[Walter Hype]

This will not help in any way.
The raw market exists due to imperfect raws.

You want people to keep buying, in hopes of getting better raws.
Raws however cannot be so bad that people don't ever come back.

Selling >98% raws results in people buying once, and then never coming back, because they don't have to, ever.

Selling 88% raws? People will keep coming back, in hopes of getting newer batches, that are better. There is every incentive to keep raws slightly impure.

Ok then then self processing is the way forward. If its intentional thats another strike towards the moral compass.

 

[dinfar1337]

This will not help in any way.
The raw market exists due to imperfect raws.

You want people to keep buying, in hopes of getting better raws.
Raws however cannot be so bad that people don't ever come back.

Selling >98% raws results in people buying once, and then never coming back, because they don't have to, ever.

Selling 88% raws? People will keep coming back, in hopes of getting newer batches, that are better. There is every incentive to keep raws slightly impure.

yes you're right looking at it as a homebrewers perspective which is less than 5% of all steroid users worldwide.

for the rest 95% that needs product the domestic fuckers are hoarding so they can upsell for 200-500%

 

[Walter Hype]

This will not help in any way.
The raw market exists due to imperfect raws.

You want people to keep buying, in hopes of getting better raws.
Raws however cannot be so bad that people don't ever come back.

Selling >98% raws results in people buying once, and then never coming back, because they don't have to, ever.

Selling 88% raws? People will keep coming back, in hopes of getting newer batches, that are better. There is every incentive to keep raws slightly impure.

Except india doo doo raws.

 

[dinfar1337]

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Except india doo doo raws.

that is not raws, i would have guessed its meal prep if you didnt say thats test

 

[Walter Hype]

that is not raws, i would have guessed its meal prep if you didnt say thats test

Yeah, you're probably right. I'm not gonna sit there and defend this shit. Still wont hurt to jano and see what happens on a gcms!

 

[readalot]

gsms

 

[Walter Hype]

 

[readalot]

Selling >98% raws results in people buying once, and then never coming back, because they don't have to, ever.

Selling 88% raws? People will keep coming back, in hopes of getting newer batches, that are better. There is every incentive to keep raws slightly impure.

If that is true then I am wasting my time. Sincerely appreciate that. The chances sources will do cleanup on the raws they receive seems far fetched to me. The ones that will do and do it right will command a premium.

In that respect Walter's vision seems pretty noble. I was on break the last time he was here. But wanted to say that.

 

[dinfar1337]

If that is true then I am wasting my time. Sincerely appreciate that. The chances sources will do cleanup on the raws they receive seems far fetched to me. The ones that will do and do it right will command a premium.

In that respect Walter's vision seems pretty noble.

no otherwise someone will come and do 95-99% raws 24/7 and then dominate market like qsc did.

truly there was always someone with the best product in the market and then they fall.

we just have to wait

 

[readalot]

no otherwise someone will come and do 95-99% raws 24/7 and then dominate market like qsc did.

truly there was always someone with the best product in the market and then they fall.

we just have to wait

Seems important to me to know if a source is brewing with 98% purity or 85% purity raws.

Appreciate your comments and perspective.

 

[Walter Hype]

Seems important to me to know if a source is brewing with 98% purity or 85% purity raws.

Appreciate your comments and perspective.

You generally won't know because they tend to overdose by 10% anyways.

And then you have to remember HPLC generally has a variance of 5%.

And then how can you be certain that when they test the RAWs that it's the RAWs are using anyway?

As many variables, it makes this really hard to do without a blind test.


Like an audit system internally which then would be borderline Towards official GMP practices

Which, I mean, at that point might as well start your own company.
Go legit.

Doesn't mean people can't have aspirations to do the best

 

[dinfar1337]

Seems important to me to know if a source is brewing with 98% purity or 85% purity raws.

Appreciate your comments and perspective.

rn we have the worst quality i've tried in the last 5 years. 80% is a generous guess.

 

[dinfar1337]

You generally won't know because they tend to overdose by 10% anyways.

And then you have to remember HPLC generally has a variance of 5%.

And then how can you be certain that when they test the RAWs that it's the RAWs are using anyway?

As many variables, it makes this really hard to do without a blind test.


Like an audit system internally which then would be borderline Towards official GMP practices

Which, I mean, at that point might as well start your own company.
Go legit.

Doesn't mean people can't have aspirations to do the best

yes thats why i mentioned qsc as the last. he sold raws and they were tested blindly

 

[Photon]

no otherwise someone will come and do 95-99% raws 24/7 and then dominate market like qsc did.

truly there was always someone with the best product in the market and then they fall.

we just have to wait

Which is also my point.
Those that bought those raws in bulk, are now set for life. They have no need to purchase more raws -- the source loses a recurring source of income.

The rest of us with this low purity 80% crap? We're the recurring source of income lol -- constantly having to purchase new batches in search for better quality.

 

[Walter Hype]

yes thats why i mentioned qsc as the last. he sold raws and they were tested blindly

I'm miss them....

 

[dinfar1337]

Which is also my point.
Those that bought those raws in bulk, are now set for life. They have no need to purchase more raws -- the source loses a recurring source of income.

The rest of us with this low purity 80% crap? We're the recurring source of income lol -- constantly having to purchase new batches in search for better quality.

oh yeah i got your point.

the numbers are still overwhelming to the domestic sources side, the homebrewers cant compete at all. theres too many steroid users who dont homebrew compared to homebrewers

and with the inflation of kids on steroids, domestic sources will enjoy a nice salary boost within the next 5-10 years

 

[readalot]

You generally won't know because they tend to overdose by 10% anyways.

And then you have to remember HPLC generally has a variance of 5%.

And then how can you be certain that when they test the RAWs that it's the RAWs are using anyway?

As many variables, it makes this really hard to do without a blind test.


Like an audit system internally which then would be borderline Towards official GMP practices

Which, I mean, at that point might as well start your own company.
Go legit.

Doesn't mean people can't have aspirations to do the best

We aren't aligned there.

Source GCMS plus HPLC on vial.

Then customer blind test HPLC plus GCMS.

Total Ion Counts (TIC) give alot more info than just mg/ml.

I think that would be an improvement as @Photon points out.

 

[readalot]

Baby steps are the source testing on raws. HPLC.

Although that is not full proof as you state @Walter Hype.

 

[dinfar1337]

Baby steps are the source testing on raws. HPLC.

Although that is not full proof as you state @Walter Hype.

i hope for one improvement is qsc coming back. or anyone who can meet our standards for that matter

no matter what qsc is a thousand times better quality wise for our standards than ssa who dosent even know whats in their vials.