Jtlittle88
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I appreciate the words of affirmation. It is my love language after all
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CraneKraken
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Not for nothing but I personally think you're wasting the GH by using only 2iu a day. Shit, even if you had pharna grade GH I'd say 2 just isn't enough. At least go to 4iu.
BP_6
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2iu is OK if you are only using it for some extremely basic, TRT like benefits if you were like over 40. However personally if I were to use that low of a dose, I would probably use MK677 instead. I think you are right that 3-4iu/day is probably better for most people. Even for those who are trying to stay at a low dose.
CraneKraken
Member
There are some decent peptide reconstitution calculators out there. Just search it on Google and a lot of them will pop up. Some are specific to GH so for you I'd just Google, "GH reconstitution calculator", and go from there.
TheLobster
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It’s impossible not to go lose when I see posts like this. If HGH dissolves slowly in water, it’s a problem. If it dissolves quickly, it’s also a problem or worse, they claim it’s not real HGH. These kinds of ridiculous theories should really be backed by proper analysis results instead of just empty nonsense. The person who came up with this might as well say the earth is flat it’s just as absurd and ignorant
When someone wants to find a flaw, they’ll find one no matter what even if it’s just saying
It’s honestly very hard to make everyone happy. Trying so hard to discredit such a high quality product is really disappointing
The analysis results I personally shared aren’t enough to convince you. Even blind tests done by customers bought the product from me don’t seem to be enough for you. Yet somehow, something someone says without any proof at all is enough to convince you and you come here to repeat it. That’s honestly very strange
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hammerheart
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I have blood tests on lobster hgh booked later this week. What is the standard time between subq pin and blood draw people use here?
You don't so subq pin and bloodraw, you do 10IU IM and draw 2 hours later
Ateam2023
Member
refer to post # 2,727,,
Which blood test are you planning to run - IGF-1 or GH Serum? That’ll help determine the timing. Most people here go with IGF-1, and for that, the usual timing is 12 to 24 hours after your subq injection.
For example, I recently did an IGF-1 test about 14 hours after my last injection of 3.2iu, and my IGF-1 came back over 400.
But if you’re aiming to test GH Serum, the protocol is different - it’s usually done around 2 to 4 hours after your subq injection, ideally on an empty stomach and without physical activity beforehand. It’s mostly used to confirm that the HGH is real and spiking your GH levels, not to measure long-term effectiveness like IGF-1.
No bro igf1 has no timing lol. You just wait 6 weeks since you start HGH and then you test it, anytime you want without any need to pin specifically. You could even stop pinning for a day and go test it.
Serum GH needs correct timing and IM injection
hammerheart
Member
Cool ok
Im doing both along more bloodwork, including a thyroid panel. I would like to see higher ft3 on hgh.
Thanks, bro - that’s good to know! Here I was stressing like I needed to “catch the GH wave” at just the right hour, like it’s some kind of testosterone peak. Glad to hear IGF-1 doesn’t play hard to get like that. Appreciate the info!
Grey Spartan
Member
2iu a day actually lowered my IGF-1 levels compared to natty. lol Then again, my natty levels are really high (237) for a guy in his late 50's
bigMoJo
Member
FYI...
1. For IGF-1: It may take a couple weeks on hGH to see the steady/stable increase of level. It's ideal to take "baseline" labs prior to starting hGH, to have comparative numbers. Wait until week 3 or 4 to test that marker again.
2. For serum GH: as Sampei has outlined, its to test the potency of your hGH. That can be done any time (but, following Sampei's steps).
3. For Thyroid: your levels are going to go through "changes" before they level-off at the final GH dosage. Its ideal to take a "baseline" level of all thyroid markers prior to starting hGH, then testing them again around the 3 or 4 month mark, or when you are at your final titrated dosage for 60 days, whichever comes first. Of course, you can test anytime in between, but thyroid can go up and down until hGH dose is steady.
hammerheart
Member
Thanks for the reply. I have been almost a month on a steady dose. About thyroid I'm affected by central hypothyroidism and I have some degree of GH deficiency that has been crippling me with muscle pain. I know that GH is likely to lower ft4 and up ft3 levels, so It's likely that I will need levothyroxine dose adjustment. I'm only using 3.5 IU daily and recovery from working out is on a whole another level already.
bigMoJo
Member
Actually, you may get an increase in FT4. How do you KNOW it will lower FT4? Your GH use may actually "cure" your central hypothyroidism, or aggravate it. You don't know until you run consistent labs. And likely, over several months, you'll see changes. Possible, they can decrease one month, and increase the next.
Assuming you have a "baseline," because obviously, it sounds like you've tested and know you're hypo. Don't rush to introduce exogenous thyroid. To put it bluntly, you want to try and avoid tinkering with your thyroid at all costs... it's a last resort to do so. Give the GH time to make "alterations" and settle-in.
As far as muscle pain, how is GH deficiency causing that? Are you referring to recovery (as you eluded to in your post)? GH deficiency just doesn't necessary cause muscle pain. Fatigue, joint pain, I guess muscle pain is possible.
Maybe I should've asked this in the beginning... how do you know you're GH deficient?
Bizzark1
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Another package of Blue Tops arrived.
5 days to Thailand
Can confirm there is vacuum and the HGH just melts beautifully into the bac water
5 days to Thailand
Can confirm there is vacuum and the HGH just melts beautifully into the bac water
Bizzark1
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Just noticed Australia domestic.
Very lucky for you 'Aussies'
Will be the best HGH in Australia by a long way
Very lucky for you 'Aussies'
Will be the best HGH in Australia by a long way
CraneKraken
Member
I don't understand why guys insist on going so low with their GH doses -especially the younger guys. I guess they're taking cost into account but nowadays cost is no longer prohibitive as we can get really good GH for less than $1 per iu. Not only that but it's easily the least harmful of all the compounds guys like us tend to use. It seems to me that they're just wasting the GH at such low doses and then shut themselves down in the process, thus doing more harm than good. Shit, for the cost of a cup of coffee a guy taking 2iu can double his dose to 4iu and get way more out of the drug. I'm all for harm reduction and keeping doses reasonable but it becomes counter-productive when doses get that low, in my humble opinion. It's like the younger guys (and the Reddit crowd) that are in their early 20's but insist on taking TRT doses of Test b/c they hear micro-dosing miniscule amounts of Testosterone sub-q is the way to go. They just shut down their own production and replace it with a fraction of what their body would have produced naturally.
That's a nice IGF score btw. Good for you, brotha. I remember some members mentioning your ridiculously high IGF-1 levels on a recent thread. I really need to get my levels tested soon. I'm about to take the leap from Opti to Lobster so I'll probably take a week off from using GH so that I can get an idea where my baseline is at. I'm 46 so I'm hoping it is at least as high as yours and hopefully more.
hammerheart
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I have been diagnosed hypo more than a decade ago and I'm on 175mcg levo. I'd be in a coma without because endogenous t4 is close to null. I have pituitary damage from an prolactin secreting tumor. I'm also on trt and the gh deficiency was proven by testing.
I'm on a max dose cabergoline as well (0.5 die).
The muscle pain and stiffness were probably from poor recovery from intense training. I seem to do a lot better now and strength has been increasing. People tell me they see the difference already. I can also go more than few hrs without eating without feeling trash. That's huge improvement because it was almost a disability.
About the ft3 i used to have levels in upper quarter of range. Then at some point in time they went down by 40%, and never come back, so hope gh treatment improves that, that's all.
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