The Horrors of DBOL

[Sk8man101]

Hey since we are on the subject, just kinda looking for a little head count.
Do you guys run nolva along side it for gyno or do you guys just up your AI?

 

[Tj72]

Hey since we are on the subject, just kinda looking for a little head count.
Do you guys run nolva along side it for gyno or do you guys just up your AI?

I haven't had to the one cycle I ran it

 

[Eman]

Hey since we are on the subject, just kinda looking for a little head count.
Do you guys run nolva along side it for gyno or do you guys just up your AI?

I didn't need to run an AI at all up until test levels increased, then the water retention just got to be too much. I still never had so much as an itchy nipple.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Hey since we are on the subject, just kinda looking for a little head count.
Do you guys run nolva along side it for gyno or do you guys just up your AI?

All user dependent
I can get away with grams of aromatizing injectables. So far ive tested the waters at 3500mg of various types at once and no need for an AI. My last run with dbol i had to reach 100mg a day to get any sort of adverse estrogen related sides. At which point i started an AI regimen and they quickly subsided.

It was just an experiment
Please do not try this at home. I like(d) to push the boundaries
Im far more conservative now

 

[Mrhat39]

I didn't need to run an AI at all up until test levels increased, then the water retention just got to be too much. I still never had so much as an itchy nipple.

You are a lucky man, I just see dbol and I need an Ai.

 

[ddp7]

For me personally, nothing worked better than dbol. Even the stronger injectables paled in comparison to what 30-40 mg/day of dbol did for me. Within two weeks, I could always count on my compound lifts going up at least 5 lbs a week.

I've taken a lot of it over the years and, when I was much younger and reckless, often took it for months at a time, which I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone else do for obvious reasons.

Noticible side effects were mild and limited to hypoglycemia and muscle spasms - usually affecting hamstrings, triceps, obliques and occasionally traps, but easily mitigated by stretching the muscle. Many users report painful lower back pumps but that was rarely an issue for me. Neither was fluid retention or bloating.

I sympathize with the guys that want to use it by itself because I've done it myself many times - usually to break a plateau and I didn't want to do a full cycle - and it worked fine. HPTA recovery was always reletavily easy with dbol only cycles compared to injectables too.

Everyone responds differently to these drugs and my experience is unlikely to mimic yours, especially where side effects are concerned, but for me at least, dbol was always like magic beans and I loved the stuff. My 2 cents.

haha magic beans, nice description. What about the humor sense?

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

haha magic beans, nice description. What about the humor sense?

*sense of humor*

 

[ddp7]

*sense of humor*

sorry yes thats the idea/question

 

[Sk8man101]

Wow get the fuck out here guys! I was doing 50mg a day and I started getting some gyno problems.
Even took Letro for a week with nolva to get rid of it.
At 40mg I didn't really have much problems though just my usual Adex dose was plenty.

 

[Tj72]

Well I used it only on training days... which is 8 days in the gym followed by 4 days off(when I'm in nights). I never had to up my AI(anastrozol) 1 pill every 2-3 days oh and was doing 40-50 mg dbol on training days

 

[Test_Subject]

Hey since we are on the subject, just kinda looking for a little head count.
Do you guys run nolva along side it for gyno or do you guys just up your AI?

Nope. I'm lucky and don't aromatize much. I can take test at 750mg a week with no AI at all.

I don't because of bloating and BP issues, but I don't develop tits. On dbol, I up my adex from 0.5 E3D to 0.5 EOD.

 

[Sk8man101]

Nope. I'm lucky and don't aromatize much. I can take test at 750mg a week with no AI at all.

I don't because of bloating and BP issues, but I don't develop tits. On dbol, I up my adex from 0.5 E3D to 0.5 EOD.

I hate all of you. I'm prone to gyno AND acne.
Not hair loss though, but honestly I could care less about that I just want clear skin.

 

[jJjburton]

Yes with test.... I haven't used dbol much at all myself but the time I did, I used it as you described before working out. I did try splitting up throughout the day on training days but found I liked the 40 mg an hour before working out better.

I feel taking it everday is benefictial even on off days because it helps your recover better. Since you can utilize more protein that is consumed, which is the reason of compounds, increase recovery.

 

[Test_Subject]

I hate all of you. I'm prone to gyno AND acne.
Not hair loss though, but honestly I could care less about that I just want clear skin.

I get gnarly acne around week 8. My shoulders look like a teenager's face.

Charcoal soap helps a lot. I also stick to t-shirts at the gym to avoid the obvious "look at me, I'm on gear."

 

[Hotrods12]

Thank you, Liver toxicity is exaggerated way to market Milkthistle, Milk thistle is snake oil, the only real liver protection out there is water.

Milk thistle works bro, I use it all the time because I am on alot of medications and will also be using Tudca on my next cycle with Dbol which works also

 

[Test_Subject]

Milk thistle works bro, I use it all the time because I am on alot of medications and will also be using Tudca on my next cycle with Dbol which works also

Citation needed.

I eat a ton of grapefruit and I'm not dead. Therefore grapefruit prevents death.

 

[Hotrods12]

Citation needed.

I eat a ton of grapefruit and I'm not dead. Therefore grapefruit prevents death.

Well let me put it out there for you, I am on 8 medications and anytime my doctor has done blood work and seen I have had a fatty liver, or my liver enzymes were elevated thats what he has told me to take and I have been fine, so im just going by what works for me, why would I lie about someting I take daily and its been proven to work for years ready the study on it,

 

[Test_Subject]

Well let me put it out there for you, I am on 8 medications and anytime my doctor has done blood work and seen I have had a fatty liver, or my liver enzymes were elevated thats what he has told me to take and I have been fine, so im just going by what works for me, why would I lie about someting I take daily and its been proven to work for years ready the study on it,

Cite "the study."

Was the study done on humans? Was it used as a treatment or a prophylactic measure?

 

[Hotrods12]

Cite "the study."

Was the study done on humans? Was it used as a treatment or a prophylactic measure?

If you have free time google it, you will see many studies done on humans, some 1 year, some even up to 5 years, feel free to check it out

 

[Test_Subject]

Eaaier case in point a

If you have free time google it, you will see many studies done on humans, some 1 year, some even up to 5 years, feel free to check it out

So cite one, if they're so easy to find.

I'm not going to research YOUR claims. That's not how academics work. You make the claim, you provide the citation.