Testosterone Concentration Limits – Was Rich Piana Wrong About 334mg/ml?

[AlexDavis43]

Not all compounds give pip at high concentration. Of course sust and enanthate over 300 will hurt like hell, but Eq, Deca, masteron, and test D is completely painless at 400 and 500mg/ml.. I wouldn't say that it is pointless to find ways to inject less oil into your body..

I ran Pharmacom Test E 500 no problem, maybe because the injection volume was so low.

 

[ThinBulk]

High concentration gear is the biggest gimmick around. Like said, only a few compounds can hold without crashing on a normal recipe. Pushing concentration by using heavy solvents is the dumbest thing anyone can do.

Eq comes completely liquid. No BB required. Test E is almost melted, like solid honey. Test P is hard like table salt. Once you see the raws, you immediately realize why standard concentrations exist.

Brewing yourself is really nice purely for the fact that you know some dumb ass didn't cut it with unhealthy solvents, filtered through a .22, used injection grade carrier oil, etc.

 

[AllGoodThings]

I wouldn't take much of anything Rich Piana said too seriously. I don't get the cult like following he had(not at all saying this is you OP) . He was praised for his openness and honesty, and while those are important traits, surely there are other important factors to consider when judging someone. He seemingly based much of his advice off anecdotes, bro science, and intuition. I think of things like his "8 hour arm workout" and just shake my head. I'm not a hater, and he had a great physique before he went crazy with the Synthol, but I just don't see myself taking advice from him when there are so many other, far better sources. As for the test concentration, I've had test at around 450mg/ml of Cyp and Enanthate, and had zero pip. Things like specific esters, carrier oils, solvents etc and your personal tolerances to those things, are likely to prove as important as concentration per ml

 

[Wolf7]

I almost achieved 400mg/ml in test Undeconate. A quick note and friend suggested I try it again use EO instead of BB. So that's something I'll attempt soon. I did get it to hold at 350mg/ml

Do you really want to be injecting EO into your body though?

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

Do you really want to be injecting EO into your body though?

No. Just a thought I had.

 

[Dirthand]

Do you really want to be injecting EO into your body though?

I personally don't mind it at all in small doses.. it has been used by compounding pharmacies around the world...

 

[MrGTO]

I had the same experience with Test D 500. I was skeptical at first with it being such a long ester but there is absolutely zero pip and once that ester fully saturates all I can say is it’s awesome. I’m not a fan of everyday pinning. I’ve settled on EOD over the years and I don’t inject anything over 1mL. So high concentration gear is my preference. I’ve tried other test 500s using Test E from two reputable vendors and the PIP is too much. Not worth it. My vendor literally had to offer me a free vial of his Test D 500 in order to get me to try it and now I understand why. Zero pain with a shit ton of test per mL. It’ll be my go to for long 16-20 week blasts.

Care to dm the vendor? I love high mg/ml stuff. Its super hard to find.

 

[SBD1]

Care to dm the vendor? I love high mg/ml stuff. Its super hard to find.

I don’t think I’ve seen it on any large vendors lists. It’s all homebrew

 

[dros]

Personally, anything over 300mg/ml Test E gave some pip and took some time to draw.

I always go for the standard 250mg/ml