Test/Primo - Very Low E2 Guidance

[ironfitness]

Take for 2 weeks 400mg test only and on the third week add 200mg primo and continue like that. No need to add dbol or inject female hormones.

... yes definitely. The reason I suggested HCG was to get e2 back to a more favourable range quickly and alleviate some of those low e2 systems which as we all know isn't a nice place to be.

 

[Eddie.]

... yes definitely. The reason I suggested HCG was to get e2 back to a more favourable range quickly and alleviate some of those low e2 systems which as we all know isn't a nice place to be.

It could do the trick but it seems more cumbersome to me than simply wait a couple days. Do you have in hand hcg ready to use? If yes, doing 500 IU for 2 weeks while switch to 400 test and 200 primo will do the job but what are you planning to do with the remaining hcg? If you plan to use it, it will take you a step further from assessing your identical test/primo ratio. Anyway, whatever you’ll do it will work now but your main concern has to be finding your sweet spot.

 

[quarter]

Thank you all for your input. I am switching up to 350mg of test and lowering primo to 250 for a few weeks and see how it goes to see if I need to adjust further.

My lipids can't take the DBOL hit right now, and everyone around me is pretty irritating when i get to 400mg of test, so if I can manage these doses that will be a lot better!

 

[RaddishPork]

Honestly, just to try it. I like the way I look with primo. It’s super dry and hard, and more test just tends to make me more watery. I know people are gonna say, just run mast instead for aesthetics, but my hair doesn’t shed nearly as much on primo as it does mast. Also, I don’t necessarily want to run MORE primo than test, I just want to try it at 1:1 with test, but if I don’t stay below 2:1, it crashes my estrogen.

Yeah that puts you in a bit of a pickle. 99% of the solutions to crashed e2 are things that will have a chance to increase the water retention. Even direct estradiol shots would pose that risk. You just have to make one small change at a time so you can find the line of getting e2 up before it brings in the water, which would probably just be slightly upping test / lowering primo

 

[HKOX]

I'm trying to dial in Trest D now.
Currently on 40mg a week, lol.
It's like a shot in the dark and hoping you dont end up with gyno.

With 200mg test prop and 5-6mg MENT (acetate) ED, I need 500mg of mast prop a week to offset the trestolone.

 

[glpfun]

Chat I’m in a chicken tendie coma, not even noon yet

 

[archive]

I don’t disagree. There are just a lot more guys who have seemingly tried all of the other options, and not very many who’ve tried going straight to injecting estradiol. Like I said, I think it’s a good option. Much more direct than guessing how you’ll aromatize with other compounds.

In case you haven't seen @Para_33's experiments with estradiol cyp here, it's an interesting read IMO

 

[atruse]

I’m gonna piggyback on this thread so I don’t need to start a new one.

Since I have very similar questions, and have already learned a bunch just reading this short thread

I’ve always been a bit hesitant to try primo since I’m worried about crashing my e2 and I’m not really interested in running 600+ mg of test to base the 400mg or so primo that most guys say is the minimum.

So I’ve looked into dosing estradiol cypionate for my first primo cycle

So my thoughts are to run 200test E, 400mg primo 1.5mg estradiol per week
Alongside HCG 1000iu/week since I run that already
And 2-3IU if hgh every night
This lifts my e2 up about 30pg/ml according to steroid plotter, on top of anything i’m aromatizing, so could even run 1mg - we’ll see how it goes

Doesn’t sound like this is to common, or has anyone ever run injectable e2 along primo so they can run lower test?

Maybe the HCG and HGH are enough, I’ll run blood at 4 weeks to check everything out..

But For anyone asking, I’d rather keep my test low for a few reasons, 1 being to mitigate to much hair loss, also to keep my heart rate lower, and just overall sides lower in general (hematocrit)
I’m not really interested in running a gram of gear just to try primo…
Though maybe next year haha

 

[BamaCrazy]

I’m gonna piggyback on this thread so I don’t need to start a new one.

Since I have very similar questions, and have already learned a bunch just reading this short thread

I’ve always been a bit hesitant to try primo since I’m worried about crashing my e2 and I’m not really interested in running 600+ mg of test to base the 400mg or so primo that most guys say is the minimum.

So I’ve looked into dosing estradiol cypionate for my first primo cycle

So my thoughts are to run 200test E, 400mg primo 1.5mg estradiol per week
Alongside HCG 1000iu/week since I run that already
And 2-3IU if hgh every night
This lifts my e2 up about 30pg/ml according to steroid plotter, on top of anything i’m aromatizing, so could even run 1mg - we’ll see how it goes

Doesn’t sound like this is to common, or has anyone ever run injectable e2 along primo so they can run lower test?

Maybe the HCG and HGH are enough, I’ll run blood at 4 weeks to check everything out..

But For anyone asking, I’d rather keep my test low for a few reasons, 1 being to mitigate to much hair loss, also to keep my heart rate lower, and just overall sides lower in general (hematocrit)
I’m not really interested in running a gram of gear just to try primo…
Though maybe next year haha

If you are going to try this, start lower with the estradiol. Trust me. 1mg a week at first. Get labs after 3-4 weeks then adjust. It takes 1.5-2 weeks to get E2 sensitive labs back so don’t delay getting your labs.

HCG does work for some people. I tried 250iu 3x a week at first and my crashed E2 didn’t budge. 500iu 3x a week slightly raised my E2 but I didn’t really like how I felt on HCG.

 

[atruse]

If you are going to try this, start lower with the estradiol. Trust me. 1mg a week at first. Get labs after 3-4 weeks then adjust. It takes 1.5-2 weeks to get E2 sensitive labs back so don’t delay getting your labs.

HCG does work for some people. I tried 250iu 3x a week at first and my crashed E2 didn’t budge. 500iu 3x a week slightly raised my E2 but I didn’t really like how I felt on HCG.

Yah thanks dude

I saw you’re previous comment on HCG, so I’m not confident it’ll help on it’s own, or even alongside hgh

I can try .5mg a week to start, definitely not interested in over shooting

the vials come in 10mg/ml, so I’ll likely pull some and dilute in a seperate vial for easier microdose Injections everyday as opposed to larger doses that will rollercoaster my e2

Should be interesting to say the least

 

[Cyp180]

1)up test
2)take dbol
3)take HCG


choose one of three solution for fix E2

Dbol and he had bad lipids ?

@quarter

500 test/200 primo and test blood again in 6 weeks

 

[HeatherSwanson]

Currently take:
- 300mg Test-C
- 350mg Primo

Plus Metformin, dutasteride and minoxidil (if it matters). No AI, but my bloods just came back with my e2 at 6.8 and with the fatigue I've been feeling, I can believe it. I can certainly drop the primo, but if anyone has any ideas that are better, I sure would appreciate it.

In my research (using that search function up there), I haven't come up with too much except for some folks saying to run DBOL which seems a little bit like throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but maybe I'm wrong.`

Said it mannnnny times

Test primo 2:1 best for me and others that have referenced this advice.
300mg test and 350 primo would be side city for me

 

[quarter]

Said it mannnnny times

Test primo 2:1 best for me and others that have referenced this advice.
300mg test and 350 primo would be side city for me

It was just crashed e2 for me. I have been doing 350mg test and 200mg primo and going to get bloods again soon!

 

[atruse]

It was just crashed e2 for me. I have been doing 350mg test and 200mg primo and going to get bloods again soon!

How you been liking those doses?

 

[quarter]

How you been liking those doses?

No issues, but haven't done bloods yet. I'm good for another 4-5 weeks of primo then I'm out so we will see lol

 

[atruse]

No issues, but haven't done bloods yet. I'm good for another 4-5 weeks of primo then I'm out so we will see lol

Yah I meant are you enjoying primo at that low of a dose

 

[quarter]

Yah I meant are you enjoying primo at that low of a dose

idk i can't really tell a difference. I see this stuff on the internet of people feeling "insane pumps" and all kinda of other hyperbole and i don't get it

 

[Eddie.]

idk i can't really tell a difference. I see this stuff on the internet of people feeling "insane pumps" and all kinda of other hyperbole and i don't get it

The weird thing would be to notice insane pumps and fullness from 200mg primo. Many say they need to run it at 600-1000mg to see these effects, they just prefer it because it's not to harsh.

I'm not buying it though, i doubt EQ will do more damage than primo on the same milligrams.