Test/Primo - Very Low E2 Guidance

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Currently take:
- 300mg Test-C
- 350mg Primo

Plus Metformin, dutasteride and minoxidil (if it matters). No AI, but my bloods just came back with my e2 at 6.8 and with the fatigue I've been feeling, I can believe it. I can certainly drop the primo, but if anyone has any ideas that are better, I sure would appreciate it.

In my research (using that search function up there), I haven't come up with too much except for some folks saying to run DBOL which seems a little bit like throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but maybe I'm wrong.`
 

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Currently take:
- 300mg Test-C
- 350mg Primo

Plus Metformin, dutasteride and minoxidil (if it matters). No AI, but my bloods just came back with my e2 at 6.8 and with the fatigue I've been feeling, I can believe it. I can certainly drop the primo, but if anyone has any ideas that are better, I sure would appreciate it.

In my research (using that search function up there), I haven't come up with too much except for some folks saying to run DBOL which seems a little bit like throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but maybe I'm wrong.`
1)up test
2)take dbol
3)take HCG


choose one of three solution for fix E2
 
Up test, drop primo down abit, take the dbol. Any of these 3. Most people on here find that 1:1 radio does crash e2 which is what you’ve done. If I was you I would drop primo by half, pull bloods then re evaluate.
 
I’ve thought about trying to run estradiol Cypionate to combat this issue so that I could run high doses of primo without too much testosterone, but I feel that it would be hard to dial in, and since I haven’t been able to find anyone else that has done it, I’m too much of a bitch to lab rat on myself.
 
Same way you dialed in Test C.
Pin and get E2 tested.

Much harder to dial in hcg/dbol/ment.
I don’t disagree. There are just a lot more guys who have seemingly tried all of the other options, and not very many who’ve tried going straight to injecting estradiol. Like I said, I think it’s a good option. Much more direct than guessing how you’ll aromatize with other compounds.
 
I don’t disagree. There are just a lot more guys who have seemingly tried all of the other options, and not very many who’ve tried going straight to injecting estradiol. Like I said, I think it’s a good option. Much more direct than guessing how you’ll aromatize with other compounds.

You can't guarantee how accurately the estradiol injections are going to affect your levels either. None of this is a straightforward science. There is a lot of theory, and rules that are generally accurate, but you could inject estradiol and fast forward yourself to gyno town.

I'm genuinely curious, why are you wanting to run more primo than test in the first place? Almost any goal you could possibly have would better be accomplished with test.
 
You can't guarantee how accurately the estradiol injections are going to affect your levels either. None of this is a straightforward science. There is a lot of theory, and rules that are generally accurate, but you could inject estradiol and fast forward yourself to gyno town.

I'm genuinely curious, why are you wanting to run more primo than test in the first place? Almost any goal you could possibly have would better be accomplished with test.
Honestly, just to try it. I like the way I look with primo. It’s super dry and hard, and more test just tends to make me more watery. I know people are gonna say, just run mast instead for aesthetics, but my hair doesn’t shed nearly as much on primo as it does mast. Also, I don’t necessarily want to run MORE primo than test, I just want to try it at 1:1 with test, but if I don’t stay below 2:1, it crashes my estrogen.
 
I like running higher Primo and lower test 2:1 so I just added HCG. Started at 250iu 3x a week. E2 didn’t move much. Increased to 500iu 3x a week and my E2 started increasing. Dbol is fun but harder to dial in E2 and easier to end up with high E2.
 
I like running higher Primo and lower test 2:1 so I just added HCG. Started at 250iu 3x a week. E2 didn’t move much. Increased to 500iu 3x a week and my E2 started increasing. Dbol is fun but harder to dial in E2 and easier to end up with high E2.

I'm trying to dial in Trest D now.
Currently on 40mg a week, lol.
It's like a shot in the dark and hoping you dont end up with gyno.
 
I'm trying to dial in Trest D now.
Currently on 40mg a week, lol.
It's like a shot in the dark and hoping you dont end up with gyno.
I’ve got a kit of that and I have been wanting to try it. The E2, BP and gyno issues cause me to keep putting it off. lol
 
I've run test and primo 1:1 and it always kept e2 good. Currently I'm on 250test c and 300mast and my e2 is 80. I'm thinking of adding 100 primo to bring those levels down a bit . I'd rather not use an ai
 
Plenty of people have ran estradiol so they can run primo or eq higher, the relationship between these compounds and e2 is not linear so there is no magic ratio people can follow to ensure their e2 stays in range no matter the dose. 1:1 below 500 test is probably going to tank your e2 unless you’re a land whale
 
Currently take:
- 300mg Test-C
- 350mg Primo

Plus Metformin, dutasteride and minoxidil (if it matters). No AI, but my bloods just came back with my e2 at 6.8 and with the fatigue I've been feeling, I can believe it. I can certainly drop the primo, but if anyone has any ideas that are better, I sure would appreciate it.

In my research (using that search function up there), I haven't come up with too much except for some folks saying to run DBOL which seems a little bit like throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but maybe I'm wrong.`
Just up your testosterone dose, and add HCG to get some aromatization. You could add Dbol a lot of people do when they crash there estrogen. Personally HCG has been enough to get me out of trouble in similar situations. But obviously your test to primo ratio is not right for you. E2 soft gels or even estrogen cypionate if you can source it would be ideal, but not easy to obtain. But I don't know what you have access to. Hope you get it sorted out soon, low E2 is no fun. Best of luck brother
 
Take for 2 weeks 400mg test only and on the third week add 200mg primo and continue like that. No need to add dbol or inject female hormones.
 
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