Can anyone tell me why I feel great while on test p and garbage on test c. Is it estrogen related? I am on trt so I get bloods on test c. Before trt I used test p for years from ugl and felt great . Estrogen has been anywhere from 30-70 on trt test c.
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maxx the dogg
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How much of each were you using and what was the injection frequency? Was everything else the same on both regimens? Meds, diet, exercise, other drugs?
I use 100mg a week of test c. And I used to use the same of test p. The test c gives me crippling anxiety. I don’t get it. I should also mention that my cholesterol is high and rbc is low. Iron low too
Test p 30 mg eod
maxx the dogg
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So test C 100mg once per week?
Yes, same diet, a little less exercise on test c but still active
maxx the dogg
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You might try splitting your dose into 2 per week. Your levels were likely way more stable on test P EOD and now you've got peaks and troughs. Some are more sensitive to T than others and small changes can have a bigger effect. I never feel much different whether it was gel, test c or test p and regardless of dose or frequency. The only time I ever noticed a difference was years ago when a doc put me on test c 100mg every 2 weeks. Now that sucked.
I ordered some test p should be here tomorow. I’m going back on p and see if that helps. If it doesn’t I’m going to look into my low rbc and high cholesterol. Neither were too far out of normal range so my doc isn’t worried yet
Whopperflopper
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Test is test, IMO I prefer test C above all. I try, instead of once every two weeks, I prefer Tuesdays and Thursdays. Prop has its place,although Trt isn't it. At the beginning and end of a cycle makes more sense.
maxx the dogg
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Just curious if you had your T levels checked on both protocols. And I agree, test is test. That isn't the issue.
Whopperflopper
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Test E seems problematic at times, at least for me. I try to match proven Pharma trt Test. No need for fancy oils, Cottonseed is what Bayer, Watson, sun pharma and others use. Not reinventing the wheel.
Test is test YES, however PROPINATE is not ENANTHATE, the esters do effect you biologically in different ways and it has been proven in a couple studies indirectly.
Test c/e have higher e2 conversion rates due to being longer heavier esters , which leads to more e2 sides (one can debate positives or negatives of them), as well as higher ft/dht, higher nitrogen retention etc, in theory its more anabolic due to the longer Ester.
Test p is healthier, safer and more natural. Why? It mimics diurnal rythym. Natty T levels fluctuate throughout the day, at 8 am it may peak at 800, 10 pm crash to 400, 12 pm hit 600, then by 6 pm hit 300. These constant fluctuations are actually healthy and normal as your body uses testosterone similar to adrenaline in fight or flight situations and responds as needed (for example your body does not require testosterone or adrenaline in your sleep as you are not in imminent danger, or hunting a saber tooth tiger, however if the need arose your body would give you/produce testosterone at that time of night if it required). Test c/e is like revving your engine at 8,000 rpms 24/7 day and night without ever turning off your car (that is depending on if you allow troughs or not). A constantly elevated t level has been shown to be neurotoxic specifically on the dopamine reward system. Test p’s spikes allow for that system to function like normal.
So yes, test is test, but enanthate is not propionate, and your body likes ups and downs and it is not natural to have a constantly elevated state.
(to op: you feel like shit on test c/e because you’re putting a constant stressor on your body that your genetics clearly cannot handle, be it higher Rbc, water retention, dopamine/norepinephrine)
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