Tbol vs Anavar

[AMG23]

Tbol vs Anavar… wanna here everyone’s opinion. Which is better and why?

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

“Better” is kind of a meaningless term without context. Better for athletic performance? Tbol. Better for strength? Anavar. Tell people your goal and they’ll give you information that’s more targeted towards it.

 

[AMG23]

Tbol vs Anavar… wanna here everyone’s opinion. Which is better for cutting, over all weight loss, quality muscle gain and strength on a first cycle of Primo and Test along with either Tbol or Var.

 

[lukiss96]

I agree with @Iron_Yuppie, interesting fact is that Turinabol actually was created to enhance athletic performance, unlike most steroids which mostly were created to treat medical conditions.

 

[Deadp007]

Var increased my strength very rapidly but also wrecked havoc on my lab values.
Wanna give tbol a go now... after I get recover from the var.

 

[Leg_locker]

I would choose anavar for strength/cutting but it can absolutely wreck your stomach and lipids as mentioned above.
I love tbol run it multiple times from 40mg-80mg Ed. its my favorite oral for BJJ gave me huge performance boost in strength and endurance but the cramps are brutal so recommended taking 5g+ taurine

 

[Turtleflap]

Done both and currently on Tbol as my training is all based around athletic performance not so much for size.

Tbol at 40mg / day makes me faster, recover quicker and I only need a few seconds rest during sports to be good to go again. Plus it does add some decent strength which is a bonus. I do not get the pump issue with Tbol or var.

 

[Leg_locker]

I do not get the pump issue with Tbol or var.

Must be nice! What sports are you taking it for?

 

[Turtleflap]

Must be nice! What sports are you taking it for?

Basketball and contact football.

 

[LFG2000]

but the cramps are brutal so recommended taking 5g+ taurine

As in stomach cramps? I am trying Tbol on my next cycle.

 

[Leg_locker]

As in stomach cramps? I am trying Tbol on my next cycle.

I didn't get any in my stomach from Tbol every once and while anavar. Mainly debilitating forearm pumps, occasional lower back/calf cramps but the taurine got ride of them I started at 2g then titrated up untill they went away

 

[goulash_ragu]

I would choose anavar for strength/cutting but it can absolutely wreck your stomach and lipids as mentioned above.
I love tbol run it multiple times from 40mg-80mg Ed. its my favorite oral for BJJ gave me huge performance boost in strength and endurance but the cramps are brutal so recommended taking 5g+ taurine

How’s your BP on tbol?

 

[Leg_locker]

How’s your BP on tbol?

Never had a problem with it really I follow the vertical diet,5mg Cialis ed plus hour rolling 6 days a week keeps it under control.
I have telmisartan OH always but have yet to need it.

 

[goulash_ragu]

Never had a problem with it really I follow the vertical diet,5mg Cialis ed plus hour rolling 6 days a week keeps it under control.
I have telmisartan OH always but have yet to need it.

Thanks! I’ve been itching to try it, but was suggested EQ on /r/steroids for BJJ instead. Maybe both

 

[cdoubleu]

Done both and currently on Tbol as my training is all based around athletic performance not so much for size.

Tbol at 40mg / day makes me faster, recover quicker and I only need a few seconds rest during sports to be good to go again. Plus it does add some decent strength which is a bonus. I do not get the pump issue with Tbol or var.

Anavar destroyed my cardiovascular abilities for my sport in a short time.
Hockey has a lot of both Anaerobic and Aerobic exercise but it seemed to affect the aerobic the worst; or at least those shifts that neared a minute at that sustained high intensity.

Interesting to hear this experience with Tbol from someone again.

 

[Leg_locker]

Thanks! I’ve been itching to try it, but was suggested EQ on /r/steroids for BJJ instead. Maybe both

Both are great options for BJJ just depends on your goals and how long you want your cycle to be?
16+weeks go with EQ
Prepping for a comp with short cycle Tbol

I will say there is more side effect management with EQ then Tbol for me personally.
I generally stick to 5mg/kg for the endurance benefits

 

[AMG23]

Var increased my strength very rapidly but also wrecked havoc on my lab values.
Wanna give tbol a go now... after I get recover from the var.

Really? I have always heard var was one of the safer anabolics due to low toxicity and low impact on lab values.

 

[goulash_ragu]

Both are great options for BJJ just depends on your goals and how long you want your cycle to be?
16+weeks go with EQ
Prepping for a comp with short cycle Tbol

I will say there is more side effect management with EQ then Tbol for me personally.
I generally stick to 5mg/kg for the endurance benefits

I was thinking more like adding to my TRT. Like, add 50mg/week of EQ to my 140mg of test. I just got my latest labs back and I got 75 e2 (with 1100 total test) so that should help me with that, as I don’t want to take AI really.

And for tbol maybe do short bursts, like 6 weeks on and then 10-12 off? Is that too much? I doubt I’ll be doing comps as I took a long ass break right at the beginning of covid… but that purple belt isn’t gonna get itself lol

Thanks for your help btw, extra data points are nice.

And I feel like 5*90 is a lot even for a week, that comes out as 65mg per day. Rn I’m doing Var 10mg PWO and 5 at night on the other days (about 45mg per week).

 

[digitalairair]

Var less sides, heavier on lipids. Tbol a bit more general sides, heavier on livers.
Var is also more expensive, but has some better effects on fat mobilization.

 

[cmK9s33]

Both are great options for BJJ just depends on your goals and how long you want your cycle to be?
16+weeks go with EQ
Prepping for a comp with short cycle Tbol

I will say there is more side effect management with EQ then Tbol for me personally.
I generally stick to 5mg/kg for the endurance benefits

I'm assuming you mean 5mg/kg total aas correct? Not in addition to your basic TRT dose?