Tbol or dbol along side trt.

Hi guys hope you all had a good christmas/new year.

Ive currently been on TRT for around 9 months now. Im thinking of adding either some dbol or tbol into the mix for 6-8 weeks. Ive taken dbol during past cycles but never tbol. Looking to gain strength and put some mass on while not putting to much fat on. Given this im swaying more towards tbol. Whats people's advice/protocols on tbol over dbol?? Tia.
Personally, I do love orals… I just don’t use them much anymore They tend to blow up my liver numbers and push my blood pressure higher than I’d like, so for me they’re more of a “sprinkle here and there” kind of thing. Usually pre-workout, or maybe a very short run if I’ve hit a plateau or just need a little extra push.
Honestly though, after spending time on this forum and trying a few different compounds (I’m still fairly new myself), I keep coming back to the basics. Testosterone just seems to work the best for me overall. Consistent, reliable, and predictable.
I did like Masteron as well, but if you’re mainly considering Turinabol as a pre-workout or performance enhancer, I’d personally lean toward TNE or test suspension instead. A quick pre-workout shot gives plenty of energy, focus, and aggression in the gym, has a super short half-life, and it’s gone before it has time to cause much trouble.
Obviously, you’ve gotta know where you’re at with bloodwork and health first. But for me, it’s hands down my favorite option — and it beats running an oral any day.
 
Hi guys hope you all had a good christmas/new year.

Ive currently been on TRT for around 9 months now. Im thinking of adding either some dbol or tbol into the mix for 6-8 weeks. Ive taken dbol during past cycles but never tbol. Looking to gain strength and put some mass on while not putting to much fat on. Given this im swaying more towards tbol. Whats people's advice/protocols on tbol over dbol?? Tia.
500 test 200tren and literally just 20mgs of tbol had me at 270ldl and 21 hdl with a statin
 
Im thinking of upping my test, adding some npp and in two minds about adding the dbol/tbol. When ive used it before the rapid strength and size gains make it so appealing. Would be 4 weeks as a kick-start if anything.
Orals mostly offer a temporary increase in performance that goes away when you come off them. If you want to use them to increase training output that is the way they can be leveraged to actually create muscle.

The biggest danger is that some of them make it possible to train your muscles harder than your connective tissue can keep up- strain tendons and your training gets crippled, or in extreme cases keep adding weight because of access to emergency strength that your augmented cns no longer forbids, that isn’t safe for connective tissue, and you can actually tear the muscle off the bone- anadrol is known for bad pec tears when people chase load PRs.

Used smart- in slightly lower daily doses that don’t make such a spiky environment for your system to deal with, and with increased but recoverable stimulus (rep pr’s over load pr’s) and accept the negative health impact on bloodwork, and lots of people use them successfully to break strength plateaus or to milk gains out of the end of a cycle that has plateaued at the end.

But for most the health tradeoff is not worth the positives if they prioritize a long ped career with minimized damage and exposure vs slightly faster growth. Especially when we can just use compounds that offer gains that stick instead of temporary ones.

They sure are fun though, and tempting. A 50mg dbol with breakfast will make the bar like 50lbs lighter that day. And in the 1970s the East German female olympic team sure kicked ass on tbol, before they all grew beards.

People don’t do kickstarts so much any more- like somebody else here said the beginnning of a cycle when things start saturating is the most productive anyway. And starting crazy strong then losing the edge the orals gave would kinda suck too, plus accelerating the toxic feel of a cycle at the beginning is not great. If you accept the risk and work smart then the middle of the cycle so that the most productive growth is amplified, and there’s less chaos when you come off, or more commonly at the end when growth comes slower, might be better times in a cycle to play with orals.

Anyway that’s my take on it.
 
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