Sustenon powder turning solid stored at 72 degrees.

[MrTexas2]

This has happened before, but it was due to shipping in summer heat. This sus is the remaining 100 grams from a 200 gram package I ordered nearly a year ago. The first 100 grams brewed perfectly 2 months ago but now the remainder is starting to solidify.

I've had this happen to sus shipped in the summer heat, so I am a bit surprised that it has happened to sus stored at 72 degrees. It is about 75% solid so I am hoping there is still a chance I can save it if I brew it now.

I know there are many cases of sus being damaged by the heat, I am just surprised to see some solidify in a cool setting.

 

[MrTexas2]

I am probably screwed, LOL: Melted raws

 

[IndividualMan]

Recrystallize. it will be wonderful afterwards

 

[MrTexas2]

Recrystallize. it will be wonderful afterwards

And how do I do that, my friend?

 

[pipo]

And how do I do that, my friend?

Thread 'Save your unusable raws Guaranteed.'

Apr 17, 2025

Raising the Standard​

The purpose of this thread is to present a comprehensive, reproducible, lab-grade method for purifying steroid raws prior to conversion. This is not a replacement for quality manufacturing..
this is a corrective technique to deal with substandard materials when no other option is available.


We must be clear: this is not an excuse for manufacturers to cut corners. This is a stopgap solution that allows individual compounders and responsible middlemen to clean up contaminated or adulterated product until true GMP-level practices are...

• TheScholarOfBrew
• Replies: 343
• Forum: Analytical Lab Testing

• 
• 

 

[MrTexas2]

Thread 'Save your unusable raws Guaranteed.'

Apr 17, 2025

Raising the Standard​

The purpose of this thread is to present a comprehensive, reproducible, lab-grade method for purifying steroid raws prior to conversion. This is not a replacement for quality manufacturing..
this is a corrective technique to deal with substandard materials when no other option is available.


We must be clear: this is not an excuse for manufacturers to cut corners. This is a stopgap solution that allows individual compounders and responsible middlemen to clean up contaminated or adulterated product until true GMP-level practices are...

• TheScholarOfBrew
• Replies: 343
• Forum: Analytical Lab Testing

• 
• 

Thanks!

I have some questions:

• Dissolve the raw steroid in a high-purity hot solvent (typically 99.5%+ ethanol or acetone).
• Hot filter to remove insoluble trash like oils, waxes, pigments, or binders.
  
  How do I hot filter. I normally filter my oils after heating and stirring. Once they start cooling down I typically run them through a 500 ml 22 micron filter.
  
  
• Crash the steroid out of solution by either cooling it slowly or adding an anti-solvent (e.g. distilled or deionized water).
  
  OK. I have dealt with crazed gear by heating it until it falls back into solution. Not sure how to crash steroid out of solution.
  
  
• Cold filter the solid crystals that form.
  
  Do I do this the same way I filter above?
  
  
• Dry the purified crystals under vacuum or low-temp desiccation.
  
  Not sure I know how to do this either.
  
  I will read the thread more fully to try and answer these questions, but any help is appreciated.

 

[pheno609]

Thanks!

I have some questions:

• Dissolve the raw steroid in a high-purity hot solvent (typically 99.5%+ ethanol or acetone).
• Hot filter to remove insoluble trash like oils, waxes, pigments, or binders.
  
  How do I hot filter. I normally filter my oils after heating and stirring. Once they start cooling down I typically run them through a 500 ml 22 micron filter.
  
  
• Crash the steroid out of solution by either cooling it slowly or adding an anti-solvent (e.g. distilled or deionized water).
  
  OK. I have dealt with crazed gear by heating it until it falls back into solution. Not sure how to crash steroid out of solution.
  
  
• Cold filter the solid crystals that form.
  
  Do I do this the same way I filter above?
  
  
• Dry the purified crystals under vacuum or low-temp desiccation.
  
  Not sure I know how to do this either.
  
  I will read the thread more fully to try and answer these questions, but any help is appreciated.

I have no experience with this, but you should be careful if you are heating anything with those solvents because they are highly flammable

 

[mongo5165]

Its probably the testosterone decanoate melting and making all the powder stick together. You might be fine brewing it. If not recrystalize or send into janoshik to make sure its still good

 

[MrTexas2]

Its probably the testosterone decanoate melting and making all the powder stick together. You might be fine brewing it. If not recrystalize or send into janoshik to make sure its still good

Yeah. Just brewing it would only cost me a filter and some BA/BB. If I brew it I will mix a half cc with some test C I have....then maybe try a whole cc.

Shame if it is bad since the only thing available is Text C (although I am sure someone will pop in and say sus is around).


Meso member A: "Sus is around."

Me: "Where?"

Meso member A: "Search you idiot!"

LOL.

 

[MrTexas2]

Its probably the testosterone decanoate melting and making all the powder stick together. You might be fine brewing it. If not recrystalize or send into janoshik to make sure its still good

Interesting, since I keep test Undecanoate around and it lasts forever.

 

[pipo]

Yeah. Just brewing it would only cost me a filter and some BA/BB. If I brew it I will mix a half cc with some test C I have....then maybe try a whole cc.

Shame if it is bad since the only thing available is Text C (although I am sure someone will pop in and say sus is around).


Meso member A: "Sus is around."

Me: "Where?"

Meso member A: "Search you idiot!"

LOL.

Annawats has or had sustanon...

 

[pheno609]

Annawats has or had sustanon...

Not anymore, i just got a price list from them a couple of days ago. Looks like they raised prices too, at least for higher quantities

 

[mongo5165]

Interesting, since I keep test Undecanoate around and it lasts forever.

I still feel like its still unlikely for decanoate to melt at that temp though. I'd send it in to be sure of the composition. Who knows what these people are putting in the raws

 

[IndividualMan]

Thanks!

I have some questions:

• Dissolve the raw steroid in a high-purity hot solvent (typically 99.5%+ ethanol or acetone).
• Hot filter to remove insoluble trash like oils, waxes, pigments, or binders.
  
  How do I hot filter. I normally filter my oils after heating and stirring. Once they start cooling down I typically run them through a 500 ml 22 micron filter.
  
  
• Crash the steroid out of solution by either cooling it slowly or adding an anti-solvent (e.g. distilled or deionized water).
  
  OK. I have dealt with crazed gear by heating it until it falls back into solution. Not sure how to crash steroid out of solution.
  
  
• Cold filter the solid crystals that form.
  
  Do I do this the same way I filter above?
  
  
• Dry the purified crystals under vacuum or low-temp desiccation.
  
  Not sure I know how to do this either.
  
  I will read the thread more fully to try and answer these questions, but any help is appreciated.

hot filtration: filter the dissolved (in ethanol) raws while they are hot.

Crashing by cooling down or adding deionized water:
cool down or add deionized water until crystals form

Cold filter the crystals that form:
Filter the crystals that formed in the last step.

dry the purified crystals under vacuum:
put them in an enclosed space and add a vaccuum. this will pull all the evaporating solvents out. you shouild repeat all these steps until all discolorations, odd texture and solvents are gone.

 

[mongo5165]

hot filtration: filter the dissolved (in ethanol) raws while they are hot.

Crashing by cooling down or adding deionized water:
cool down or add deionized water until crystals form

Cold filter the crystals that form:
Filter the crystals that formed in the last step.

dry the purified crystals under vacuum:
put them in an enclosed space and add a vaccuum. this will pull all the evaporating solvents out. you shouild repeat all these steps until all discolorations, odd texture and solvents are gone.

Doing the vacuum chamber is a game changer. Really helps get all the solvents out. I'd highly recommend ethanol, make sure its Non-denatured! That stuff is toxic. Pure ethanol is the safest even if a small amount stays in the raws

 

[Thorshammer]

This is gonna be a bit of a problem. Because sustanon is 4 different substances mixed together not one.

 

[IndividualMan]

its still all test/different esters

 

[Thorshammer]

its still all test/different esters

But different melting points and solubility. Thats gonna have a huge effect of crash out. Also sustanon has a very specific ration of those esters. That's gonna be all screwed up.

 

[IndividualMan]

But different melting points and solubility. Thats gonna have a huge effect of crash out. Also sustanon has a very specific ration of those esters. That's gonna be all screwed up.

it might get a bit skewed, true, but if you work dilligently you will not lose too much/throw the ratio off too much.

 

[Thorshammer]

it might get a bit skewed, true, but if you work dilligently you will not lose too much/throw the ratio off too much.

The big problem is them forming crystals under extremely different conditions though. You would be better off trying to seperate them first.