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[Dial It In]

This has been coming like a freight train. The signs were there for the USA based on what was written in black and white for all to read prior to the election. In China, a lot vendors were warning customers that the policy stance was going to shift at some point in the not so near future.

Stan did you a solid based on a little guesswork but a whole lot of warnings that all were lining up. There are others here who were warning everyone in detail as well. I believe @Ghoul was one of them.

Yep the De Minimus thread. It’s a good read

 

[RockyP]

Nobody agrees with me (thank goodness) but I think GH / peptides might soon feel a pinch as well. How badly and for how long is up for debate, but keeping in mind that there's a shitload more users of GH / GLP's than there are masteron and primo, it's all relative. And, Eli Lilly and their vassals across the globe do not give a flying fuck about our mast, primo, etc. Reta is a many many billion dollar cash cow and they are going to keep pressing on to limit the grey market access

 

[Alopez]

Nobody agrees with me (thank goodness) but I think GH / peptides might soon feel a pinch as well. How badly and for how long is up for debate, but keeping in mind that there's a shitload more users of GH / GLP's than there are masteron and primo, it's all relative. And, Eli Lilly and their vassals across the globe do not give a flying fuck about our mast, primo, etc. Reta is a many many billion dollar cash cow and they are going to keep pressing on to limit the grey market access

Honestly, the current situation doesn't look good for Gear users. Personally, I'm a fan of test, nandrolone and primo for bulking up. The three seem to work wonders together – I get great results without any issues, and my blood tests are always on point. However, when I remove primo I notice some unpleasant side effects .
On a separate note, I'm not a fan of EQ; it seems to spike my Hematocrit levels. Fingers crossed that primo becomes available again before I run out of my stash!

 

[Clappincheeks]

Honestly, the current situation doesn't look good for Gear users. Personally, I'm a fan of test, nandrolone and primo for bulking up. The three seem to work wonders together – I get great results without any issues, and my blood tests are always on point. However, when I remove primo I notice some unpleasant side effects .
On a separate note, I'm not a fan of EQ; it seems to spike my Hematocrit levels. Fingers crossed that primo becomes available again before I run out of my stash!

Do you have any recent blood testing with Stans products?

 

[DeafJam]

Nobody agrees with me (thank goodness) but I think GH / peptides might soon feel a pinch as well. How badly and for how long is up for debate, but keeping in mind that there's a shitload more users of GH / GLP's than there are masteron and primo, it's all relative. And, Eli Lilly and their vassals across the globe do not give a flying fuck about our mast, primo, etc. Reta is a many many billion dollar cash cow and they are going to keep pressing on to limit the grey market access

I don’t have emoji permissions yet, but I’ll second this. This has been in the rumor mill on the peptide side from vendors for a while that 2025 may be the end of the road for the world we are familiar with. With the amount of money EL and NN feel is at stake, I cannot see them sitting idly by as every fatty in America gets skinny without them.

 

[Alopez]

Do you have any recent blood testing with Stans products?

 

[Clappincheeks]

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thank you for sharing. What was your protocol with these bloods? How recent ?

 

[Alopez]

thank you for sharing. What was your protocol with these bloods? How recent ?

At the end of the cycle on July. 500 test / 500 primo / 400 nandrolone npp,
16 weeks.

 

[Stanfordpharma1]

Hello everyone, I'd like to share a quick story. In January 2023, my previous supplier retired, and I started using Stand (Great response and products by the way) Before leaving the business, he advised me to stock up on products due to an impending shortage and probably some products disappearing. I invested in a significant amount of products with stand, mainly primo and test cyp, Although I was skeptical, I'm glad I took his advice, and I still have a substantial stock left. I'm curious, though - was his insight just luck, or did he has inside knowledge? Just a curious though.

Well, in my business I often speak to multiple sources based in China. Not uncommon for us finished product sources. I was made aware a few months before it hit the fan. That being said, I've seen this a dozen times. It always came back in a month or 2. In this case, very soon into the situation it felt different. There was always a hope that it would come back. I tried to be as open and as honest with people as possible about the situation. Even now I get rumors that it will be back to normal in a month or 2. I don't believe it will. Who knows if it will ever be back to normal. Keep in mind, it will only go back to normal if the powers that be want it to. I ended up stocking up like many other sources, but stock for all of us is running out, whether they choose to admit it or not. That being said, I'm stocking up quite a bit on hgh and peptides.

 

[malfeasance]

At the end of the cycle on July. 500 test / 500 primo / 400 nandrolone npp,
16 weeks.

How was estradiol with that 500/400/400?

I have never run primo before, but nandrolone I have to keep at half the test dose, or I have erectile issues (can be solved the same day by injecting some testosterone propionate to raise the ratio, lol). Any thoughts on whether this 500/400/400 would cause the same issues?

 

[RockyP]

How was estradiol with that 500/400/400?

I have never run primo before, but nandrolone I have to keep at half the test dose, or I have erectile issues (can be solved the same day by injecting some testosterone propionate to raise the ratio, lol). Any thoughts on whether this 500/400/400 would cause the same issues?

In my experience the only way to run nandrolone is with E2 on the low end, which for me means a primo dosage of 80% to 100% of my test, with a nandrolone dose (NPP) around 200-250 mg (have not found much benefit above that dosage in relation to unwanted side effects).

 

[Alopez]

How was estradiol with that 500/400/400?

I have never run primo before, but nandrolone I have to keep at half the test dose, or I have erectile issues (can be solved the same day by injecting some testosterone propionate to raise the ratio, lol). Any thoughts on whether this 500/400/400 would cause the same issues?

I had the same issue (erectile issues) until I started adding primo, with primo I can increase nandrolone dose with 0 side effects, not erectile issues, not blood pressure,no depression or that kind of shit.
For me primobolan was the answer. You have to try and see how it works on you. Start with 200 and increase 100 every month until you notice any side effect so you know your sweet spot.

 

[RockyP]

I had the same issue (erectile issues) until I started adding primo, with primo I can increase nandrolone dose with 0 side effects, not erectile issues, not blood pressure,no depression or that kind of shit.
For me primobolan was the answer. You have to try and see how it works on you. Start with 200 and increase 100 every month until you notice any side effect so you know your sweet spot.

This is along the lines of what I was saying - nandrolone can sensitize us to the impact of excess E2. I prefer to keep the E2 low (like 15 - 25) if I'm running deca / nandrolone. This can of course also be accomplished with an AI instead of Primo. EQ would work also but I would prob be a little concerned about the synergistic impact of EQ and nandrolone on HCT. The golden era BBers ran primo / deca / Dbol - unclear if they knew what they were doing but without the test in the mix the methyl-estradiol from the dbol was enough to balance their cycles.

 

[Oldhand]

How was estradiol with that 500/400/400?

I have never run primo before, but nandrolone I have to keep at half the test dose, or I have erectile issues (can be solved the same day by injecting some testosterone propionate to raise the ratio, lol). Any thoughts on whether this 500/400/400 would cause the same issues?

I’m with @Alopez and @RockyP on this one.

You might need to play with the numbers to fine tune it, but I think you can get it to work.

I’m on test/primo/npp now at a 2:1:1 ratio. Everything is working fine. I’m more prone to crashing my estro so I’ve learned to run test higher than my primo.

 

[Alopez]

This is along the lines of what I was saying - nandrolone can sensitize us to the impact of excess E2. I prefer to keep the E2 low (like 15 - 25) if I'm running deca / nandrolone. This can of course also be accomplished with an AI instead of Primo. EQ would work also but I would prob be a little concerned about the synergistic impact of EQ and nandrolone on HCT. The golden era BBers ran primo / deca / Dbol - unclear if they knew what they were doing but without the test in the mix the methyl-estradiol from the dbol was enough to balance their cycles.

Yes exactly, I’m my case using a AI make feel horrible sad, and EQ destroys my blood so primo is my only option if I wanna use nandrolone, my next blast will be 800 test 600 primo and 500 nandrolone. I’ll update here how it goes.

 

[canes]

Ordered Sunday. Received Wednesday. Perfect as usual.

Now if only the supply chain shit fixed itself.

 

[Flankstake]

Touchdown. I’ve been working with Stan since the start of this thread, and every experience has been positive. .

Worrisome to see the list depleting, hopefully China and USA get their trade deal finalized and the labs start normal production again.

 

[Ghoul]

Touchdown. I’ve been working with Stan since the start of this thread, and every experience has been positive. .

Worrisome to see the list depleting, hopefully China and USA get their trade deal finalized and the labs start normal production again.

You mean agree on terms that allow illegal Chinese produced scheduled drug precursors to flow freely again?

 

[Avies48]

You mean agree on terms that allow illegal Chinese produced scheduled drug precursors to flow freely again?

In some other terms perhaps but mayyybe?

 

[GeauxTNE]

Stan what is the breakdown of your sustanon, like which 4 esters and what percentages do you use? I've seen different combos used before like c or iso and I've seen different percentages of prop, phenprop, deca, iso used is why I ask.