Stalled growth! WTF! :(

[YoBigdaddy]

This is basically my cycle and diet (so far I have just finished week 4)

1-14 test e 400mg ew
1-8 tren e 400mg ew
14-16 prop 100mg eod
3-16 hcg 250iu eod
1-16.5 adex .25-0.5 eod
pct 17-22
clomid 75/50/50/25
nolva 40/20/20/20/10


My diet
meal 1
2 packets of maple oatmeal and 2 cups of 2% milk
30 min laterz
1.5 cup 2% milk
1 medium bananas
2 raw eggs
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986 cal, 31g fat, 135g carb, 49g protein


meal 2
100g chicken leg
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165 cal, 4g fat, 31g protein

meal 3
200 gram salmon fish
200 gram rice
4 chinese chease wanton
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1257 cal, 1g fat, 56g carb, 58g protein

meal 4
100g chicken leg
1 banana
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270 cal, 4g fat, 27g carb, 32g prot


meal 5
preworkout drink (10g creaitin and 10g glutamine)
1.5 cup 2% milk
1 medium banana
2 raw eggs
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425 cal, 17g fat, 47g carb, 25g prot


post workout
(same as pre-workout)
1.5 cup 2% milk
1 medium banana
2 raw eggs
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425 cal, 17g fat, 47g carb, 25g prot

45 min after workout
100g chicken
sweet potoe 100-120grams
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370 cal, 4g fat, 47g carb, 36 prot


total:
3473 cal
61g fat
316g carb
256g prot

b4 going to bed
(every other day) 453 grams of egg whites from grocery store
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189 cals 8g carb, 45g prot

4 tblsp of mct oil=60g fat,

total:
3473+189 cal= 3662 cal+540=4202 cal
61g+0 fat = 62g fat+60=122g fat
316g+8g carb 324g carb
256g=45g prot 301g prot

first 2 weeks, i grew 4 pounds a week an added 1" just in my arms, and my chest, legs, calf all grew. but last 2 weeks, only my back grew, and my guts. Added like 3 pounds on myself and enerything has stalled. WTF! I been following the link below, Blink41 workout program:
What Is The Best Intermediate Bodybuilding Workout?

I also replaced the fish in meal 3 with beef, but that shouldn't have done much negative effect. It could be my nervous system needs break, but I am on roids, I should not need a break and for god sake, if anything I am under-training , but comeon, not even a fucking cm of mucle anywhere last 2 weeks. I did start taking 2.5mg of DUTAS(last 2 weeks) and I think thats the culprit. I am gonna drop the sob this week, but any other advice would be appreciated. If not fking progress, I might cut the cyle to 8 weeks and start the pct and start new cycle after July

 

[D-Ballin]

Stats?

 

[rutman]

You sound like a kid....maybe you are. We don't know much about you. There's no magic bean pill to make you grow son...it will talk years of hard training and dedication to get big. Everybody wants to get big overnight and wants the easy way out...blood and guts for years....not one cycle gets you big. You might as well quit because you're obviously not growing as fast as you'd like to.

 

[insaiyan93]

Atleast you get to big, just fuckin eat more and lift heavier dude. Fuuuuck, I'm cutting, you ever have to do cardio? Wouldn't reccomend it. I literally can not get this over with fast enough, but it's probably going to be a year before I'm even close to my goal, you hav we to come to terms with the fact that results take time little buddy.

 

[Skull]

You sound like a kid....maybe you are. We don't know much about you. There's no magic bean pill to make you grow son...it will talk years of hard training and dedication to get big. Everybody wants to get big overnight and wants the easy way out...blood and guts for years....not one cycle gets you big. You might as well quit because you're obviously not growing as fast as you'd like to.

Atleast you get to big, just fuckin eat more and lift heavier dude. Fuuuuck, I'm cutting, you ever have to do cardio? Wouldn't reccomend it. I literally can not get this over with fast enough, but it's probably going to be a year before I'm even close to my goal, you hav we to come to terms with the fact that results take time little buddy.

@YoBigdaddy These guys hit the nail on the head. Shit jus doesnt happen overnight no matter how bad we would like for it to

 

[YoBigdaddy]

Thanks. If I was gaining like 1 pound a week first 2-8 weeks, then stalled, I would have understood. Its just not even 1 cm of progress(when I made too much progress in first 2 weeks) made me wonder if I am missing anything, if its just the time factor, then no issue. I will try to increase my calories, cut the DUTAS, then report

 

[D-Ballin]

Thanks. If I was gaining like 1 pound a week first 2-8 weeks, then stalled, I would have understood. Its just not even 1 cm of progress(when I made too much progress in first 2 weeks) made me wonder if I am missing anything, if its just the time factor, then no issue. I will try to increase my calories, cut the DUTAS, then report

What's your weight, and how much of a surplus do you estimate you are at? No one can tell you anything without that.

On gear or not, if you aren't gaining, you aren't eating enough. Your split looks fine, despite homeboy's moronic broscientific rambling on various subjects. Therefore, it's the diet. Or the dutasteride, which I know squat about. But probably the diet.

 

[insaiyan93]

@YoBigdaddy These guys hit the nail on the head. Shit jus doesnt happen overnight no matter how bad we would like for it to

Blah, who wants results overnight? If it was easy everybody would be walking around jacked to shit, I like it better this way, only the people that are willing to get up everyday and do whatever they have to and stop making excuse are the ones who will see progress. It's not for lazy people, and it's not for the weak, mentally or physically. That's what seperate us from the guy that walks on the treadmill for 5 minutes a day and then slams two big macs because he "earned it" l9l

 

[Nitrust]

I can't believe you are cycling at your bf% anyways. You should've cut BEFORE and lean bulked with the gear

 

[Nitrust]

Disregard that comment, I thought op was someone insaian93

 

[insaiyan93]

Are you talkin to me?

 

[boodecarlo]

@YoBigdaddy These guys hit the nail on the head. Shit jus doesnt happen overnight no matter how bad we would like for it to

Shit if it was easy everyone would do it

 

[Skull]

Shit if it was easy everyone would do it

This is true

 

[goofyx102]

Like everyone said, its hard work and dedication. Also, did you think about changing up the workout routine? Gotta constantly shock the muscle so it doesn't adapt to the same routine over and over.

 

[YoBigdaddy]

Like everyone said, its hard work and dedication. Also, did you think about changing up the workout routine? Gotta constantly shock the muscle so it doesn't adapt to the same routine over and over.

Been on that program for only 4 weeks, didn't think that would be an issue. I can go ahead try that, got nothing to loose

 

[naturalkon]

Ok, so how much do you weigh? Bf%? How many cycles? Do you know your gear is legit? Training intensity? How much sleep are you getting? Job stress? Long hours? Just a few variables. 4 weeks is early to expect any massive changes.

 

[Leancuisine]

Unless you are at the peak of your genetic potential there is no reason you shouldn't be gaining weight off 400mg test alone.
Even if you were injecting veggie oil and not real test, you should be gaining weight off your meals alone.
Something isn't adding up here...

 

[DedLift]

Agreed, the test e should be kicking in now and your lifts should be going up along with your weight and that's not even taking into account the other stuff you're stacking it with. Even if you weren't lifting at all you'd be gaining weight(just not the good kind).

 

[YoBigdaddy]

Ok, so how much do you weigh? Bf%? How many cycles? Do you know your gear is legit? Training intensity? How much sleep are you getting? Job stress? Long hours? Just a few variables. 4 weeks is early to expect any massive changes.

I weigh 198 right now 15-20% bodyfat, I gained 8lb on first 2 week, then nothing last 2 weeks(not even fucking 1 lb!), but my strength keeps going up on every workout! Training intensity is using the workout link I posted at my first post, job is office job and i try to sleep 8 hours, but is restless due to tren, which is expected. I don't expect massive change, I just don't expect from 100mph to 0mph after 2 weeks though! lol. My gear is almost all from 24k and this is like my 3rd or 4th cycle, each got years in between.

Unless you are at the peak of your genetic potential there is no reason you shouldn't be gaining weight off 400mg test alone.
Even if you were injecting veggie oil and not real test, you should be gaining weight off your meals alone.
Something isn't adding up here...

Totally agree, I have taken advice of posters above and decided to up my calorie, maybe I am one of those people who needs way more calories. Will be hitting 5k+ calories this week and I will see how it goes. B4 I started this cycle, I was almost addicted to meth, that fucker reduced my test to 270 (the normal range is 250-800). On the cycle , it has increased to 2700+! So stuff is legit. Here is my bloodwork with this reply. My creatine is fuked up probably due to orals, I probably will cut them! I think its stressing out my kidneys. At least going back to gym killed any carving I had for stupid meth, don't even wanna look at that crap right now!

 

[naturalkon]

Just keep eating man. And maybe throw in a junk food/ fast food meal with all that bro food you're eating. It will help you put on some weight.