sp5der - QUALITY US DOMESTIC

[readalot]

but regardless, anything you buy from me will have raw testing before it’s made and finished product testing after. and what you receive will test within a few % of my test because of jano variance etc

there will never be a tc250 that tests at 220 or 270

takes 100 good doings to build a reputation and one bad doing to ruin it

Bravo. How many vendors are going to set this goal? Takes effort and attention to details.

 

[sp5der]

The target is clear... 250 mg/ml.

The mean of the Jano tests above is clear. 251.6 or whatever it was.

My question was ....

based on the measurements you took (mass of API and effective volume of solution you estimated using your SOP), what was the calculated value of the mg/ml for your batch?

In your lab notebook for instance you would have your target and your calc value from all the measurements you took. From that you could calculate % error. Then compare with Jano mean above. You seemed to me to be someone that would track that.

Oh yeah, I understand what you’re asking.

249.1mg/ml if raws were 94% 254.4mg/ml if raws were 96% is what it would have been. Had everything been measured perfectly with no loss. Despite jano 96%+ raw purity I think raws were 95% pure based off finished results as everything, my test and customer blind are both between what I’d have gotten with 94 pure and 96 pure raws

 

[Rido]

Nah man, you’re trippin a bit. I get the risks, but $50 a vial as a baseline sounds like we’re pricing it like rare art, not testosterone.

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Nah,

It definitely should be.


The parcels are getting more examined now. There's less manufacturers.


The chance of getting caught are significantly high and that's if you're getting real product


Do you know where to get raw testosterone?


Have you had kilos seized?

 

[readalot]

Oh yeah, I understand what you’re asking.

249.1mg/ml if raws were 94% 254.4mg/ml if raws were 96% is what it would have been. Had everything been measured perfectly with no loss. Despite jano 96%+ raw purity I think raws were 95% pure based off finished results as everything, my test and customer blind are both between what I’d have gotten with 94 pure and 96 pure raws

Thank you and great you highlighted how uncertainty in raw purity propagates to finished product composition. The community is fortunate to have a source who paid attention in chem class.

Appreciate you narrowing down sources of error in your process where you can.

 

[Photon]

Thank you and great you highlighted how uncertainty in raw purity propagates to finished product composition. The community is fortunate to have a source who paid attention in chem class.

Appreciate you narrowing down sources of error in your process where you can.

If we look at raw results for raw testing, most raws were tested with a small amount of raws, <40mg.

Assuming one purchases a kilo, that's barely .004%
How sure are we that the results are even representative?

 

[sp5der]

If we look at raw results for raw testing, most raws were tested with a small amount of raws, <40mg.

Assuming one purchases a kilo, that's barely .004%
How sure are we that the results are even representative?

You only know after you make the finished product and test it

 

[readalot]

If we look at raw results for raw testing, most raws were tested with a small amount of raws, <40mg.

Assuming one purchases a kilo, that's barely .004%
How sure are we that the results are even representative?

Great question. Would take some effort on the part of a very detail minded source to ensure practical homogeneity of the raw material before testing. Too much work, right?

Fun mixer.

https://www.medisca.com/products/inversina-manual-tumbler-mixer

 

[The Answ3r]

Nah,

It definitely should be.


The parcels are getting more examined now. There's less manufacturers.


The chance of getting caught are significantly high and that's if you're getting real product


Do you know where to get raw testosterone?


Have you had kilos seized?

I get where you’re coming from, but I think we’re talking from two very different positions. I’m not a manufacturer or a distributor, I’m a consumer. I don’t have to think about raws, seizures, or logistics, that’s simply not my lane. Those risks are real, sure, but they’re part of the business side, not the consumer side.

You’re absolutely free to price your product however you want based on your risks, time, and effort. At the same time, I’m just as free as a customer to say no to a price and go elsewhere if comparable quality is available for less. That’s not disrespect, that’s just how a market works.

So it’s not about arguing whether $50 is justified or not. It’s simply about choice. You set your price, and I decide whether it makes sense for me.

 

[readalot]

Nah man, you’re trippin a bit. I get the risks, but $50 a vial as a baseline sounds like we’re pricing it like rare art, not testosterone.

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So there is no "we". You mean "you".

 

[sp5der]

If there was a pay what you want option, what would tested, consistent, clean ugl gear be bought at

I’d be kinda interested to see maybe with more stock I’ll do it just to experiment if we get more at $35, under $35 or over $35 for a 10mL vial or 250mg/ml test c

 

[Photon]

Great question. Would take some effort on the part of a very detail minded source to ensure practical homogeneity of the raw material before testing. Too much work, right?

Fun mixer.

https://www.medisca.com/products/inversina-manual-tumbler-mixer

Hell that capsule machine is impressive.
Puts my 30$ machine to shame.

 

[readalot]

Nah,

It definitely should be.


The parcels are getting more examined now. There's less manufacturers.


The chance of getting caught are significantly high and that's if you're getting real product


Do you know where to get raw testosterone?


Have you had kilos seized?

Amen.

45 to 50 easy with what this dude is showing us. There is no substitute for attention to detail, pride in craftsmanship.

 

[readalot]

Hell that capsule machine is impressive.
Puts my 30$ machine to shame.

Same idea with mixing raws to ensure homogeneity.

As pricey as you wanna go.

 

[The Answ3r]

So there is no "we". You mean "you".

Honestly, I’m not even sure it’s worth replying to you. You don’t seem to buy from anyone anyway, you just float from thread to thread dropping your five cents so you can feel involved. No “we,” no “you,” just commentary for the sake of commentary. But hey, carry on, the forum would probably feel empty without the background noise.

 

[readalot]

Honestly, I’m not even sure it’s worth replying to you.

Yet you did.

Thank you for your creative writing contributions here on the forum and happy holidays.

 

[Cman90]

If there was a pay what you want option, what would tested, consistent, clean ugl gear be bought at

I’d be kinda interested to see maybe with more stock I’ll do it just to experiment if we get more at $35, under $35 or over $35 for a 10mL vial or 250mg/ml test c

Looks like there are a couple knuckle heads that would pay $50 a vial, or at least try to convince others to. I think $35 is very fair given the current market.

Your craftsmanship and attention to detail are what will set you apart from others and bring competitive advantage.

 

[sp5der]

Looks like there are a couple knuckle heads that would pay $50 a vial, or at least try to convince others to. I think $35 is very fair given the current market.

Your craftsmanship and attention to detail are what will set you apart from others and bring competitive advantage.

I appreciate that. Thank you

I think $35 is fair to the customer and I

 

[readalot]

Nah,

It definitely should be.


The parcels are getting more examined now. There's less manufacturers.


The chance of getting caught are significantly high and that's if you're getting real product


Do you know where to get raw testosterone?


Have you had kilos seized?

Honestly, don't understand you jumping the fence again. Many seem to want an anabolic charity.

Fun to see if price elasticity of demand gets tested from someone doing great work.

 

[The Answ3r]

Yet you did.

Thank you for your creative writing contributions here on the forum and happy holidays.

Love you too, man. Happy holidays to you as well.

 

[New2theGame!!]

Looks like there are a couple knuckle heads that would pay $50 a vial, or at least try to convince others to. I think $35 is very fair given the current market.

Your craftsmanship and attention to detail are what will set you apart from others and bring competitive advantage.

Would be fun to see source price it at $50, and watch this thread go down the drain.

Especially if the @THE Answer is right and the one guy doesn’t even purchase anything.