some one lay it out for me: need to add bulk

Well if you "train" you do it wrong like the rest of your lame self serving suggestions, contagion!

Hey do you prefer the sunflower seed extract infusion before your WO or the 3beta124alpha tire wheel substrate suppositories?

Well seeing as you haven't watched me train, and haven't ever seen me once in the physical world. You must know a hella lot about me.[:o)][:o)]
 
What about it the sunflower seed infusion or the tire wheel substrate suppositories as pre-workout "juice "
 
Are you focused on progressively increasing the weights used each week or just fatiguing the muscle? I gauge progress by increases in the weights I'm using, too many sets to failure has personally done nothing for my strength. When I started adding weight to bar, I gained a lot of size.... If your making great gains training your legs how you currently are, that's great... Training this way did not work for me, but everyone is different.. I fatigued the muscles, but size and strength did not increase...

Yeah man, always adding weight every week on my normal 12 10 8 6 leg days
Only problem is I'm to the point now where I can lift so much I'm worried that I will injure something. But I respond so well to heavy lifting vs high rep stuff.
I only weigh 210 and am squatting 365 on last set of 6, leg extension the whole stack but I can def feel those 2 in my knees more than I would like.
 
Azzul
You honestly believe one GYM session can determine if a particular exercise routine improves "bulk".

Or perhaps you believe exhaustive activities are synonymous with adding mass?

You've got to be kidding, but as you wish.

Yes Doc.
I do believe that lower reps, heavier weight to failure, will improve bulk over not taking the muscle to failure.

Isn't the basic action of exhausting the muscle the cause of it getting bigger and stronger? I know that is the very basic of explanations but I can assure you I'm no doctor! :)
 
Yes Doc.
I do believe that lower reps, heavier weight to failure, will improve bulk over not taking the muscle to failure.

Isn't the basic action of exhausting the muscle the cause of it getting bigger and stronger? I know that is the very basic of explanations but I can assure you I'm no doctor! :)

Breaking the muscle tissue down, improving the HSP's (heat shock proteins) within the muscle, and then re-building as such, as more cells come back than before to replenish a bigger tissue. So its not necessarily "exhausting" the muscle that's doing it, but because it normally occurs as you are breaking the tissue down, it tends to go hand in hand. Still, there is a certain level of intensity that must be made, and you don't want to overtrain.

I think essentially, you have the right idea though Azazul.
 
Yeah man, always adding weight every week on my normal 12 10 8 6 leg days
Only problem is I'm to the point now where I can lift so much I'm worried that I will injure something. But I respond so well to heavy lifting vs high rep stuff.
I only weigh 210 and am squatting 365 on last set of 6, leg extension the whole stack but I can def feel those 2 in my knees more than I would like.

It does get to the point after a while that numbers are not what it's all about if your bodybuilding and not powerlifting. I think everyone needs to get to the point where they can move some decent numbers, but hypertrophy is my main goal and I'm not totally focused on numbers.. Looking good is what it's all about for me.. Yeah AAzul your moving some decent weight, keep doing what works brother and I love to hear what works for everyone, we are all different...
 
I don't do leg extensions, because I have heard they are bad for the knees. I would think trying to go too heavy on them is a recipe for disaster.
 
I don't do leg extensions, because I have heard they are bad for the knees. I would think trying to go too heavy on them is a recipe for disaster.

Ive always had strong legs from 15 years of soccer as a kid,I wrestled 103lbs freshman year (yeah I was a skinny lil fucker) but I won states because I could tie a guy up with legs so good they couldn't do shit
I could lift much higher weight but like you said, its disaster waiting to happen especially since i'm mid 30's now...old fuck..
 
Ive always had strong legs from 15 years of soccer as a kid,I wrestled 103lbs freshman year (yeah I was a skinny lil fucker) but I won states because I could tie a guy up with legs so good they couldn't do shit
I could lift much higher weight but like you said, its disaster waiting to happen especially since i'm mid 30's now...old fuck..

Avoiding injury is what's most important to me nowadays.
 
The idea of not hitting failure on every set is foreign to me but I will give it a shot.

Strength gains are my main goal so I normally stay at or under 8 reps.

Ray or Jim- if say I were to use an 8 rep weight how many reps off failure should I do 1-2? Therefore with an 8rep weight I would be doing 6-7?

Is that sufficient for creating those bulking activities which you described?

Also Ray I'm imagining you'd be able to do a bit more volume with this. Right now I hit every muscle group twice a week for 13 sets should I increase slightly to 15?

Training in this fashion has done wonders for me but I'm always willing to try something else that may be even better.

Thanks
 
The idea of not hitting failure on every set is foreign to me but I will give it a shot.

Strength gains are my main goal so I normally stay at or under 8 reps.

Ray or Jim- if say I were to use an 8 rep weight how many reps off failure should I do 1-2? Therefore with an 8rep weight I would be doing 6-7?

Is that sufficient for creating those bulking activities which you described?

Also Ray I'm imagining you'd be able to do a bit more volume with this. Right now I hit every muscle group twice a week for 13 sets should I increase slightly to 15?

Training in this fashion has done wonders for me but I'm always willing to try something else that may be even better.

Thanks

By going to failure, do you mean that you actually fail on every single set? So you have a spotter on the bench and you fail every set and he helps every set? Just trying to understand your idea of failure, I usually leave a rep or two at most in the tank.... This allows me to push more weight on my last set, by actually failing on every set it taxes you quicker. Leaving one or two in tank and training so your not struggling on the last set, that's what I do now. My strength has increased since I started doing this, If I'm going for a PR, I may go to failure, but not all the time, not on every set. I look at it like this, adding weight is more beneficial than failing on every set. If your doing well now and adding weight I see no reason you should stop. I pretty much know when I'm about to fail, and I stop just short of it. If you stop TOO short of failure, then your not pushing yourself enough, it's a fine line..
 
It also can depend on your routine I suppose, their are many variables. There are countless different training techniques. I'm focusing on Progressive Overload, so it works best for this IMO
 
Failure is when I cannot finish the rep 100% by myself usually the last rep is 90% me 10% my spotter and then I rack.

So basically if I were to use this approach I would just stop at 7? I feel 6 would be short.
 
Failure is when I cannot finish the rep 100% by myself usually the last rep is 90% me 10% my spotter and then I rack.

So basically if I were to use this approach I would just stop at 7? I feel 6 would be short.

Right. Just complete all the sets yourself with no assistance, then you would not be going to failure
 
Just because something I'm doing now is working doesn't mean something else won't work even better. So I'm going to give this a shot and see.

I've been training like this for awhile so my body would probably enjoy the change regardless.

Yes I literally fail on all 13 sets. I take 4min rest period between each set.

An exercise will look like this

Warmup with 6 reps on a 12 rep weight

4 working sets

6
8
8
10
 
Just because something I'm doing now is working doesn't mean something else won't work even better. So I'm going to give this a shot and see.

I've been training like this for awhile so my body would probably enjoy the change regardless.

Yes I literally fail on all 13 sets. I take 4min rest period between each set.

An exercise will look like this

Warmup with 6 reps on a 12 rep weight

4 working sets

6
8
8
10

I think you could do better too, don't fail on every set and cut down the resting periods....
 
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