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Primo is primo. The Test-C showing up due to my error and the diligence of Janoshik. The 1.5 ml sample was drawn from an in use vial. I use a 25g pin for loading Primo and Test into the same syringe before using a 27g for pinning Sometimes I load the Primo first and sometimes I load the Test C first. Since it is the same pin Test C can get in the Primo and visa versa.
This is helpful! Thanks for posting.

May I ask when you bought your primo?

Was your testC also from SSA?
 
My rep is still fighting me on this saying I was supposed to use WA10 which according to their product list is labeled the same exact thing as bac water which is confusing from the get go.

No note of that next to fragment before purchasing. Apparently what they mean is sterile water.

They told me I’m supposed to use it all immediately. These are 10mg vials. No one uses that much frag in a single dose.

Prior to this I was just getting money lined up to I make a substantial order of some other things but with the way this is going I might have to spend my money elsewhere.
 
Depends what GTG means to you. They're "fine" but SSA has better purity and is overfilled at the same price. So in terms of HGH, SSA > SRY.
Not the same price… SRY offers domestic HGH w/ free shipping while all SSA discounted HGH is from China. SSAs domestic HGH is significantly more expensive with a higher MOQ
 
So they are still sticking to their guns telling me I need to reconstitute a 10mg vial of hgh Fragment 176-191 with sterile water and not bac water even though there is no indication of that on their product page.

Correct me if I’m wrong, sterile water only allows a peptide to safely be used within 24 hours correct? They are telling me I need to use it immediately upon reconstituting. Who in the hell uses 10mg of frag in a day? Even their 5mg vials are too much to use in a day. Are they correct here?

Is a possible work around for me to reconstitute with 2 parts sterile water and 1 part bac water? Would that keep the peptide from turning to goo while allowing the vial to remain useable for longer than a day?

None of this seems right and they have been fighting me on this all day. I was literally going to place a $1000 order with them on Monday but this is being handled so poorly I might just save my money.
 
So they are still sticking to their guns telling me I need to reconstitute a 10mg vial of hgh Fragment 176-191 with sterile water and not bac water even though there is no indication of that on their product page.

Correct me if I’m wrong, sterile water only allows a peptide to safely be used within 24 hours correct? They are telling me I need to use it immediately upon reconstituting. Who in the hell uses 10mg of frag in a day? Even their 5mg vials are too much to use in a day. Are they correct here?

Is a possible work around for me to reconstitute with 2 parts sterile water and 1 part bac water? Would that keep the peptide from turning to goo while allowing the vial to remain useable for longer than a day?

None of this seems right and they have been fighting me on this all day. I was literally going to place a $1000 order with them on Monday but this is being handled so poorly I might just save my money.
I think there is some barrier language going on because it doesn't make any sense
 
I think there is some barrier language going on because it doesn't make any sense
Exactly right? I haven’t come across this problem personally when using frag or from others on the forum until this incident. My rep seems to be fed up with me but I’m not going to stop messaging them. They keep ignoring the fact it’s a 10mg vial with doses starting at 250mcg which means it’s clearly not meant to be used within 24 hours.

This is just like when I called them out on mislabeling their super shred. They had it listed with an insignificant amount of carnitine and it took several back and forths until they could finally confirm it was mislabeled.
 
My rep is still fighting me on this saying I was supposed to use WA10 which according to their product list is labeled the same exact thing as bac water which is confusing from the get go.

No note of that next to fragment before purchasing. Apparently what they mean is sterile water.

They told me I’m supposed to use it all immediately. These are 10mg vials. No one uses that much frag in a single dose.

Prior to this I was just getting money lined up to I make a substantial order of some other things but with the way this is going I might have to spend my money elsewhere.
@SigmaAudley China Peptide
 
I had a similar experience with Mast E from Q. I believe there is some solvent besides BB. Only used a part of one bottle chucked the rest out. Instant headache after pinning and could taste it. Strong smell from vial after pinning. They claim they didn't use anything but BB, but not sure on that one.
Just cracked open my Mast E from Q, insaaane pip. Was just scouring the forum for a reason. You got unusual pip also?
Was just putting 0.3ml and am used to alot more!
 
Just cracked open my Mast E from Q, insaaane pip. Was just scouring the forum for a reason. You got unusual pip also?
Was just putting 0.3ml and am used to alot more!

Anecdotally, Qs oils don't seem to be aging well and becoming pip monsters.

Not really surprising, who knows wtf is in there.
 
You guys think SSA use EO and/or other poison for their Primo 200 and Mast 200?
If I remember correctly they replied a few weeks ago that they did not. Ethyl Oleate (EO) isn’t a poison but sometimes causes pain, swelling and allergic reactions in some people. EO is sometimes used in shorter esters like prop, acetate and Phenylpropionate to create a thinner solution and helps suspend the hormones in the solution. USP EO is less likely to caused issues compared to cheaper non-USP EO.

Personally EO nor Guaiacol causes me issues. And they are rarely ever used in Primo or Mast, even in UGL’s. Primo is known to give pip regardless of the source. Mast is not so that’s a little unusual.
 
Anecdotally, Qs oils don't seem to be aging well and becoming pip monsters.

Not really surprising, who knows wtf is in there.
Hey Ghoul was hoping you could chime in on mu
Issue. Is it normal for hgh frag to become unuseable goo from reconstituting with bac water? They are telling me I need to use just sterile water and use the whole vial right away. It’s a 10mg vial and we all know you don’t dose it that high. Appreciate your input.

Also, would a potential work around be to reconstitute with 2 parts sterile water and 1 part bac water to prevent the gelling but also preserve it for longer than a day?
 
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If I remember correctly they replied a few weeks ago that they did not. Ethyl Oleate (EO) isn’t a poison but sometimes causes pain, swelling and allergic reactions in some people. EO is sometimes used in shorter esters like prop, acetate and Phenylpropionate to create a thinner solution and helps suspend the hormones in the solution. USP EO is less likely to caused issues compared to cheaper non-USP EO.

Personally EO nor Guaiacol causes me issues. And they are rarely ever used in Primo or Mast, even in UGL’s. Primo is known to give pip regardless of the source. Mast is not so that’s a little unusual.
Yeah thought so aswell, have never had pip from mast but the QSC one is crazy pippy. Let's try the SSA primo and binf the old Q' mast Unfortunate cause i love masteron!

Also theyr replied that they used EO in P200. I immediately thought ''primo'', but their list classes P200 as Test prop right?
 
Hey Ghoul was hoping you could chime in on mu
Issue. Is it normal for hgh frag to become unuseable goo from reconstituting with bac water? They are telling me I need to use just sterile water and use the whole vial right away. It’s a 10mg vial and we all know you don’t dose it that high. Appreciate your input.

It's not supposed to do that, but it's been a widespread problem affecting numerous batches.

PH is wrong, basically, causing massive aggregation.

The only thing you can do is increase the amount of water you're reconstituting with. If 3ml will work for you, it should prevent the gelling for a while.
 
It's not supposed to do that, but it's been a widespread problem affecting numerous batches.

PH is wrong, basically.

The only thing you can do is increase the amount of water you're reconstituting with. If 3ml will work for you, it should prevent the gelling for a while.
That’s what I needed to hear. They are feeding me BS about using sterile water and use the whole vial in a day. Completely ignoring anything I’m saying. Seriously debating giving them any more of my business. There are other vendors out there, while not as cheap, don’t have these issues and if they did they would own up to it.
 
That’s what I needed to hear. They are feeding me BS about using sterile water and use the whole vial in a day. Completely ignoring anything I’m saying. Seriously debating giving them any more of my business. There are other vendors out there, while not as cheap, don’t have these issues and if they did they would own up to it.

Unfortunately most of hgh frag seems to be coming from the same lab, so it's a product specific defect, rather than the supplier. I think QSC had "custom" PH BAC water made to prevent this from happening.

It's really not wise to knowingly inject aggregates imo, so don't do it unless it's clear and/or you filter.
 
Has anyone received shipments or trackings actually moving from the 3/26 promo? After asking 3 times I got a tracking number that just says 'label created'...I think it's probably a bogus tracking just to appease me. The promo literally said "Fast shipping within 2-3 days. The product is ready." Ordered and paid on 3/27. @SigmaAudley China Peptide
 
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