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Update: I got a hold of Bella again. I understand they have no "special EU line" like QSC did. It does seem like they offer a reship for free tho, and their prices are very very good.

For the Europe broz, how is your shipping succes rate using these guys with shipments from China?
 
Update: I got a hold of Bella again. I understand they have no "special EU line" like QSC did. It does seem like they offer a reship for free tho, and their prices are very very good.

For the Europe broz, how is your shipping succes rate using these guys with shipments from China?
they have a special eu line bro, what are you talking about. Unless they lost it like today, they have always had the same special EU line that every other chinese source mostly have, shipped to big warehouse in europe and reshipped to destination from EU.
 
they have a special eu line bro, what are you talking about. Unless they lost it like today, they have always had the same special EU line that every other chinese source mostly have, shipped to big warehouse in europe and reshipped to destination from EU.

From talking to Bella it gets shipped directly from China to your address in Europe. Unless our communication is completly haywired.

I would be happy if I'm wrong.
 
From talking to Bella it gets shipped directly from China to your address in Europe. Unless our communication is completly haywired.

I would be happy if I'm wrong.
Probably language barrier, I don't wanna get into details but when I ordered from them quite a lot of things in 2024 autumn. The package would be sent to a country in Europe, you wouldn't see any movement of the. Package until it lands in that country get processed there and then redirected to you.

It is shipped directly to you but it looks from a logistic point of view shipped from the EU. No custom no duty to be paid etc.
 
Probably language barrier, I don't wanna get into details but when I ordered from them quite a lot of things in 2024 autumn. The package would be sent to a country in Europe, you wouldn't see any movement of the. Package until it lands in that country get processed there and then redirected to you.

It is shipped directly to you but it looks from a logistic point of view shipped from the EU. No custom no duty to be paid etc.

Okay thank you, that puts my mind at ease.
 
From talking to Bella it gets shipped directly from China to your address in Europe. Unless our communication is completly haywired.

I would be happy if I'm wrong.
For the first one a few months ago to my country they used DHL (similar to QSC). For the next orders they used YunExpress. For my country, this is my favourite form of delivery. The fastest and 200% safe. In any case, everything goes in a bulk container to one of the EU countries or the destination and is processed further. The shipments look as if they have been sent in the EU. With YunExpress, the shipment from the container is immediately processed in my country, so it looks like a domestic shipment.
 
For the first one a few months ago to my country they used DHL (similar to QSC). For the next orders they used YunExpress. For my country, this is my favourite form of delivery. The fastest and 200% safe. In any case, everything goes in a bulk container to one of the EU countries or the destination and is processed further. The shipments look as if they have been sent in the EU. With YunExpress, the shipment from the container is immediately processed in my country, so it looks like a domestic shipment.
Yunexpress is so fast for my country too. Faster then DHL.
 
If they don't send with China post is ok for EU. China post is a headache.
Panda send with that and it was a adventure to get the package
 
Probably language barrier, I don't wanna get into details but when I ordered from them quite a lot of things in 2024 autumn. The package would be sent to a country in Europe, you wouldn't see any movement of the. Package until it lands in that country get processed there and then redirected to you.

It is shipped directly to you but it looks from a logistic point of view shipped from the EU. No custom no duty to be paid etc.
yeah the tracking i got with the "DE" in the end is quite telling
 
yeah the tracking i got with the "DE" in the end is quite telling
That's good to know.

Sending it to or from Germany isn't a lot better than straight from china. German customs are pretty rough and they actually check parcels going out even within the EU aswell.

If and when they actually send it TO germany without our identity on it, sure it's 1/10th the risk once it's in, but it isn't guaranteed to get in and how many people got love letters related to their assumed soon to be inside the EU, unlabeled packs again?
 
That's good to know.

Sending it to or from Germany isn't a lot better than straight from china. German customs are pretty rough and they actually check parcels going out even within the EU aswell.

If and when they actually send it TO germany without our identity on it, sure it's 1/10th the risk once it's in, but it isn't guaranteed to get in and how many people got love letters related to their assumed soon to be inside the EU, unlabeled packs again?
If you are not a German citizen and do not live in Germany and not order to Germany, then at best they can do you a rimming. There is nothing to worry about.
 
If you are not a German citizen and do not live in Germany and not order to Germany, then at best they can do you a rimming. There is nothing to worry about.
Tell that to the ones sitting in prison after a run-in with europol for importing goods into the EU, or the ones doing the same for importing from DE to here.

In your country it might actually be the case that EU to EU isn't checked, but it very much is for some countries.

Something like 35% coming here from the Netherlands get opened and searched too for example. Different countries, different laws.
 
Tell that to the ones sitting in prison after a run-in with europol for importing goods into the EU, or the ones doing the same for importing from DE to here.

In your country it might actually be the case that EU to EU isn't checked, but it very much is for some countries.

Something like 35% coming here from the Netherlands get opened and searched too for example. Different countries, different laws.
You are comparing apple to oranges.

I never had once a package that was coming from Germany being inspected or delayed etc.

Package from the NL? Yeah that's tricky but that's expected NL is a different thing.
 
You are comparing apple to oranges.

I never had once a package that was coming from Germany being inspected or delayed etc.

Package from the NL? Yeah that's tricky but that's expected NL is a different thing.
For us it isn't. It's red apples to red apples. Don't ask why, but basically nothing sent from Germany is worth ordering. Some of my fucking amazon packs got opened even.
Don't understand why, as we are free to shop CZ alt. cannabinoids for example with 100% pass rate even basically unpacked in nylon.
Just for context, they without doubt will search your place if you're found smoking a spliff, even with non psychoactive products. Having CBD bud is illegal even.

Edit: Roids are basically what would be Sch69 in Murica.
 
For us it isn't. It's red apples to red apples. Don't ask why, but basically nothing sent from Germany is worth ordering. Some of my fucking amazon packs got opened even.
Don't understand why, as we are free to shop CZ alt. cannabinoids for example with 100% pass rate even basically unpacked in nylon.
Just for context, they without doubt will search your place if you're found smoking a spliff, even with non psychoactive products. Having CBD bud is illegal even.

Edit: Roids are basically what would be Sch69 in Murica.
Where are you from?
 
Oh... Strange shit. Didn't know it was that crazy there.
For most EU countries SSA is gonna be g2g and safe with shipping from Germany, my comments are not to be looked at much. They are good notice for those unsure, you can read up on what countries yours receives parcels safely from.

We are literally the only country in the EU currently that without a doubt will punish any type of drug-related activity. We are even forbidden to consume alcohol in public Monday to Friday, not that it stops us.... we are known drunks, that is the only substance with any kind of tolerance.

There were national programs for redirection, rehab and so on, you would just test once a month, have a talk with a PO and be on your way if you had personal amounts. A couple years ago that stopped.

If you are the father of 3-4 you get to pay a ridiculous fine a couple years probation. If not (which is my case) you are praying to only be on probation for 20 years and not locked up for 5+. We are talking 1 vial imported (be that from DE) or 1+ (1 opened vial and 1 shot preloaded counts as 1+) found in your posession. You'll also have a hard time getting a job afterwards.

10g of AAS oil is 10.000mg steroids, same as 10g raw powder, though for that you get a couple years extra for an intent to manifacture. CBD bud for example will be measured as 100% "Product containing THC" which is the same Sch as THC itself.

If found on the streets with something there's a slight chance you get a cool officer that lets you go after taking your shit, but getting a parcel to your name with anything in it... you're gonna be giving head for a bit.

It's ridiculous, but this forum helps a lot.

Edit as with every single comment I write after a beer:
This is one of the reasons I'm harsh with sources, I'm not going to prison either with an extra hole on each cheek or for something that's bunk. I only do high risk for high reward.
 
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For most EU countries SSA is gonna be g2g and safe with shipping from Germany, my comments are not to be looked at much. They are good notice for those unsure, you can read up on what countries yours receives parcels safely from.

We are literally the only country in the EU currently that without a doubt will punish any type of drug-related activity. We are even forbidden to consume alcohol in public Monday to Friday, not that it stops us.... we are known drunks, that is the only substance with any kind of tolerance.

There were national programs for redirection, rehab and so on, you would just test once a month, have a talk with a PO and be on your way if you had personal amounts. A couple years ago that stopped.

If you are the father of 3-4 you get to pay a ridiculous fine a couple years probation. If not (which is my case) you are praying to only be on probation for 20 years and not locked up for 5+. We are talking 1 vial imported (be that from DE) or 1+ (1 opened vial and 1 shot preloaded counts as 1+) found in your posession. You'll also have a hard time getting a job afterwards.

10g of AAS oil is 10.000mg steroids, same as 10g raw powder, though for that you get a couple years extra for an intent to manifacture. CBD bud for example will be measured as 100% "Product containing THC" which is the same Sch as THC itself.

If found on the streets with something there's a slight chance you get a cool officer that lets you go after taking your shit, but getting a parcel to your name with anything in it... you're gonna be giving head for a bit.

It's ridiculous, but this forum helps a lot.

Edit as with every single comment I write after a beer:
This is one of the reasons I'm harsh with sources, I'm not going to prison either with an extra hole on each cheek or for something that's bunk. I only do high risk for high reward.
That policy sucka but at least XXXXXX have a good immigration law
 
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