Serum HGH test results

[bojangles2112]

Hello Bros it has been a while since I have been here and made a post but I think this post is important for all member who are considering using the services of Eminence International Service. He is a board sponser on many boards such as OLM, AB, and PM to name a few. My experiance with this sponser has been less than perfect. I purchased 1000 iu's of his generic blue tops back in January, after numerous emails the pack arrived very late. It contained 1000 iu's of what he called "generic red tops". After using three full kits and not experiancing the normal side effect I chose to have a growth hormone serum level test done. I followed the protocol of pinning 10 iu's 3 hours before the blood draw after fasting 12 hours. I used Labcorp for the testing. The results came back with no HGH in my system. I contacted EIS and forwarded him the results. He promptly sent me 1000 iu's of his "proven generic blue tops" The next day I had those tested using the very same protocol. Again the test results show no HGH in my system. I contacted EIS again back on March 22 2012 and he agreeded to replace the kits again with 1000 iu's of riptropin in return for me not posting my results openly. To date I have not recieved the riptropin and and have many emails exchanged with many broken promises from EIS. This is my experiance with this supplier and there are many others who have had bad experiances with this very same supplier but their threads have been deleted at many of the boards EIS is a sponser at.

 

[mands]

Thanks for the feedback! I foresee quite a few HGH suppliers falling by the wayside soon. These guys are scam artist and have no concern for our health. It's all about the dollar. Just imagine money you could make if you were a good source and supplied a legit product. I just don't think they look at the big picture. I am hoping the riptropins I'm going to order will be good.

mands

 

[bojangles2112]

Lab Results

Bros here are the lab results for the above statements.

 

[bojangles2112]

In the interest of integrity and fairness to EIS, I recieved my tracking number today and should recieve my rips very soon. I will test them per the same protocol and post the results here.

 

[mands]

Please let me know because I have an order pending from TP for some rips.

mands

 

[mac111]

well, its chinese crap after all, plenty of documentation online warning of even considering any HGH out of china. its not going to be a supply fault, its where they are getting it

 

[bojangles2112]

Ironically EIS got the rips from TP to replace the bunk HGH he sent me.

 

[mands]

Ironically EIS got the rips from TP to replace the bunk HGH he sent me.

I think that is good news for you bojangles! I just saw a serum level test of 17.6 ng/ml with a 10iu IM injection in the shoulder and a 2hr. 50 min. draw after injection.

mands

 

[Dr JIM]

Buyer beware if it reads "made in China"! Guys really, many DOCS are now much more apt to supplement GH rather than those dastardly "steroids"!
So use insurance and go PG, where it's essentially guaranteed quality via FDA regulations.

 

[mands]

Buyer beware if it reads "made in China"! Guys really, many DOCS are now much more apt to supplement GH rather than those dastardly "steroids"!
So use insurance and go PG, where it's essentially guaranteed quality via FDA regulations.

I agree to a point. Except as you know it's absolutely asinine prices for US pharm GH. We are getting ripped off in America on all pharmaceutical drugs.

There are a few great sources out there for GH coming from china. Just have to find the right ones. Prices are half that of Humatope, Nutropin, Saizen and others.

mands

 

[bojangles2112]

After considerable thought between a crazy works days decisions, I have made the decision that tomorrow I am going to pin 6 iu's of rips instead of 10 iu's. The reason, Madmoe at OLM pinned 6 iu's of Tevtropin and got a result of 19.9, if the rips test simular to that number if could be said that rips are as good as Tevtropin. I will post tesults here Monday or Tuesday.

 

[Dr JIM]

50 to 75 bucks per vial of HUMATROPE (12mg - 36 IU)
with insurance COPAYMENT.
So IF you have insurance AND you can find a DOC whom is comfortable prescribing GH, it's a nobrainer!

 

[bojangles2112]

Those are two big if's which I don't have access to. And I don't think any doc is going to prescribe 5 iu's a day for someone. Don't get me wrong Doc I would love to have Humatrope again but it is just not in the cards right now

 

[mands]

Dr Jim not sure if this is state specific but my doc is telling me the only way insurance will cover HGH is for these two reasons: Kids with short stature, and adult onset gh deficiency proven by arginine stim test.

mands

 

[Dr JIM]

No that's not state specific, that's insurance specific! They despise spending your premium dollars for conditions that are "less well recognized". EVERY TIME I've been challenged by an "approval agent" they paid.
It's a pain in the arse to get this done initially but eventually, after years of confronting a endless stream of insurance companies, they allow it.

 

[bojangles2112]

1000 iu's of rips in hand blood test complete will post results when the results are in

 

[bojangles2112]

I just received my test results for the rips I received last week. I feel the numbers I am about to post are a mistake by Labcorp. But these numbers have been verified by a repeat analysis of my blood. If anyone has an explaination for the results I would like to hear it because frankly I don't believe them to be accurate at all. I pinned 10 ius at 11:15 am in the morning on Friday when I received the rips. I went to labcorp at 2:15 pm and the blood was drawn less than 5 minutes later. I had not eaten since 7:00 am, I received the first test results yesterday and asked for the test to be repeated and I received those numbers today. The number on the test did not change between the two tests. Now for the number. My growth hormone serum was .......................... 113.0.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

An EXPECTED value: https://thinksteroids.com/community/posts/807288

 

[bojangles2112]

In layman terms the number is not abnormal for administring 10 iu's? Also I did not see in the thread you posted how much HGH they used. Or did I miss that?

 

[Dr JIM]

The high end studied "pediatric" dose use for growth hormone replacement approximates .057/mg/kg/day, thus a 70kg males (which your probably not) upper level insurance approval would approximate 4mg or 12IU per day, providing you were deemed growth deficient, below the 10th percentile for either height or weight.
However if you were an primary (low GH) hypogonadal adult male with infertility issues yet whose height and weight were above the 10th percentile most insurance companies would rarely approve, and pay for, a dose exceeding 0.02mg/kg/day or
1.4mg/day (4 IU/day).
Your growth hormone level once measured "113", what are the units being used?
What are the study lab norms for GH?
Did you follow their suggested protocol, should one exist?
Could you post the actual lab slip or a complete reproduction of it?

MANDS your earlier suggestion regarding IGF is interesting but although GH certainly stimulates the IGF production I don't believe the converse is true. I don't recall a negative feedback mechanism for IGF effecting GH production (much like the gonadal - HTPA). There are ways to lower and increase GH levels prior to testing however. One just has to be patient, innovative and insightful to discover their usefulness!