Russia begins invasion of Ukraine

And lets say you're right, the US govt set things in motion in a way that left Putin no choice but to invade (which is ridiculous because Russia was never under any threat), that still doesn't give us the right to tell the Ukrainians to give up their territory and stop fighting back. That's their decision, not ours.

The appropriate remedy for that is to accept blame, tell Putin we manipulated him and he should leave Ukraine, demilitarize the Donbas. Pay reparations of some sort, like the kind of aid we've been sending Ukraine. But I don't think anyone in the white house feels they made Putin invade. And Zelensky was elected in 2019, not 2014.


The real objective here is control.

Washington wants to control the world. And not in a peaceful way, but like a crooked cop controls a poor neighborhood.

Without Washington intervention, Taiwan for example may very well vote itself into being part of China.

Eastern Ukraine and Crimea would most definitely choose to be part of Russia.

None of this bodes well for Washington who has decided to dominate the world with it's financial institutions.

But Washington doesn't represent Americans anymore. Outside of a few privileged and powerful places like silicon valley, Park avenue, Hollywood and smaller liberal enclaves in expensive subdivisions fenced off and guarded from the rest of society, there's no support the globalist corporate interests and policies that Washington has represented the past thirty years.

It's a house of cards with a hurricane coming. The days are numbered few and it's power is waning.

America was never meant to be an empire. But a constitutional republic of willing nation states.

Most of those states no longer support endless foreign wars and aspirations of empire.

You're an idiot. A delusional fool.

The model is not sustainable and corruption has accelerated the demise.

Fact is Washington could not muster an army strong enough to drive Russia out of Ukraine by itself. And Washington cannot even trust it's allies no more than it's allies can trust Washington.
 
He's a sheltered coddled sheep is exactly it.

Plus, he's stupid.

Don't let it anger you
the worst is that this shit of @hometeam is convinced that he will convince us with these rotten arguments from CNN bad luck for him I changed my mind about the world he was about ten years old during a trip to North Korea with the company Redstar and I quickly understood what the media were saying was simple propaganda And they are right to make nuclear missiles to defend themselves from democratic bombs and the rights of man and woman lgbtqseng++^
basically @hometeam it's really piece of shit
 
the worst is that this shit of @hometeam is convinced that he will convince us with these rotten arguments from CNN bad luck for him I changed my mind about the world he was about ten years old during a trip to North Korea with the company Redstar and I quickly understood what the media were saying was simple propaganda And they are right to make nuclear missiles to defend themselves from democratic bombs and the rights of man and woman lgbtqseng++^
basically @hometeam it's really piece of shit

@hometeam is a coward.

This is a person living in a bubble of decadence and indulgence. He's probably never fought anybody in his life outside of schoolyard confrontations. Much less fought an equally endowed adversary for the right to survive in cold hard place where no help is coming and nobody cares if you win or lose.

@hometeam is a sissy. A bitch. A useful idiot. That's all.

Fact is, if America had to really fight an equal entrenched and determined adversary like Russia on equal terms, he wouldn't be anywhere around the melee and bloodshed. But in the courtyards talking shit.

You shouldn't concern yourself at all with his rhetoric.

People like him support the globalist corporate ambition of his benefactors in Washington. But most Americans do not.

He's not going to Ukraine to fight for anything. Because he's never fought for anything in his life. He's never had to.

Listen to me my friend, I am an American. Lowborn and of the warrior class of people that the world used to fear.

We are not going to march on another European country, Arabic country or Asian country on behalf of Washington ever again. And that cunt @hometeam isn't going to either.

He can say whatever he wants. It doesn't mean anything.

Washington will never again be able to muster an army of juggernaut proportions manned by formidable fighting men from it's rural interior people ever again.

And bitches like @hometeam are not going to fight anyway. Even if they did, it would be a pathetic joke.

The world is changing, the mighty NATO Washington empire is ending. They can't even stand united against Russia because they cannot get the people they've shit on for decades to fight for them anymore.

So don't let that idiot anger you. His time is at an end. His world is at an end.

He'll be sucking ass for crumbs and crusts tossed away by men better than him eventually.

It's just destiny
 
@hometeam is a coward.

This is a person living in a bubble of decadence and indulgence. He's probably never fought anybody in his life outside of schoolyard confrontations. Much less fought an equally endowed adversary for the right to survive in cold hard place where no help is coming and nobody cares if you win or lose.

@hometeam is a sissy. A bitch. A useful idiot. That's all.

Fact is, if America had to really fight an equal entrenched and determined adversary like Russia on equal terms, he wouldn't be anywhere around the melee and bloodshed. But in the courtyards talking shit.

You shouldn't concern yourself at all with his rhetoric.

People like him support the globalist corporate ambition of his benefactors in Washington. But most Americans do not.

He's not going to Ukraine to fight for anything. Because he's never fought for anything in his life. He's never had to.

Listen to me my friend, I am an American. Lowborn and of the warrior class of people that the world used to fear.

We are not going to march on another European country, Arabic country or Asian country on behalf of Washington ever again. And that cunt @hometeam isn't going to either.

He can say whatever he wants. It doesn't mean anything.

Washington will never again be able to muster an army of juggernaut proportions manned by formidable fighting men from it's rural interior people ever again.

And bitches like @hometeam are not going to fight anyway. Even if they did, it would be a pathetic joke.

The world is changing, the mighty NATO Washington empire is ending. They can't even stand united against Russia because they cannot get the people they've shit on for decades to fight for them anymore.

So don't let that idiot anger you. His time is at an end. His world is at an end.

He'll be sucking ass for crumbs and crusts tossed away by men better than him eventually.

It's just destiny
Once again I completely agree with you he still believes in the invincibility of the USA NATO empire. if one day Russia crushes the USA he will be the first with a Russian flag to welcome them as a liberator he goes where the wind brings him back. @hometeam must be a fan of Lady Gaga this jester he should go to the women's section of meso rx
 
Once again I completely agree with you he still believes in the invincibility of the USA NATO empire. if one day Russia crushes the USA he will be the first with a Russian flag to welcome them as a liberator he goes where the wind brings him back. @hometeam must be a fan of Lady Gaga this jester he should go to the women's section of meso rx
One day, yeah we won't be the strongest country (or even top 2) anymore. But that won't be anytime soon and not because of some angry Russian currency scheme lol. As the most modern country, it seems every new innovative economic driver comes out of the US.

As Deputy Secretary of State in charge of dealing with the Soviet breakup, Strobe Talbott influenced Russian policy the most during the Clinton years, and if you want to know what happened after Soviet dissolution you should listen to him:

View: https://youtu.be/RtVeN-MXEFc?t=1971
He says: "Is the Gorbachev-Yeltsin era (of Westernizing and friendly US relations), the anomaly, and the Putin era is what we’re going to be living with for the next decades, or much of the rest of the century? Or is it the other way around? "

Interviewer: "Tell me."

… "You can certainly guess what I hope. My hope is not just hopeful thinking. There is a little bit of objective reason for believing that "Putinism"—and it’s quite extraordinary when a leader becomes an “ism”—that it will fail. I'm going to squeeze it down to oversimplicity.

So much of what Putin is doing as the supreme leader of Russia is atavistic (ancestral). It’s a throwback to a system, a set of behaviors, a means of controlling society, a means of bullying and in some cases expanding into the borderlands and so forth and so on, that one has to objectively say: “Wait a minute. They tried that already, and it didn’t work.” The Soviet Union had a lifespan that the Bible tells us we as individual mortal beings can have, 70 years. And it died. It died. It was killed by a lot of the pathologies—authoritarianism, revanchism, the big lie, the iron fist, and an inability or a refusal to modernize the society and economy. Whoever said it, if anybody said it, if insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, even though it’s failed. It’s insane, or at least it won't work for very long." -Strobe Talbott


Fact is, if America had to really fight an equal entrenched and determined adversary like Russia on equal terms, he wouldn't be anywhere around the melee and bloodshed. But in the courtyards talking shit.
I'm not sure why you've got to keep cutting our troops down or fantasizing about our downfall. Why does our troop's grit and mettle matter to you? Strobe Talbott also said this a long time ago:
"President Putin needs to understand that the international community's ability to help him succeed in making Russia a strong country is going to depend in large measure on how he defines strength. Will he define strength in the terms of the twentieth century and the nineteenth century and the eighteenth century, which is that strength equals force? Or will he define strength in twenty-first century terms, in which strength means your ability to plug into the global economy, and to be a full and vigorous participant in the international community?"

For some reason, like Putin, you think all that matters is military might and who can force their will onto who. Well, the UN voted 141-7 to condemn that and 40 countries sent Ukraine aid.

If Russia had equal equipment (and now we know they don't) and equal budget and equal numbers, and invaded us I'm sure we would fight back just as ferociously as the Ukrainians. Like after Pearl Harbor or 9-11. If we invaded them it wouldn't be good for us either.

As the Vietnamese bicyclists on the Ho Chi Minh trail showed us after we took out their trucks and dropped more bombs on them than all of WWII,
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11697_08%20(11).jpg

it's not always about force or strength, more often it all comes down to your will to fight. Ukraine is fighting for their country's existence, Russia is fighting over an outdated belief that they should be an empire and great power again and keep their spheres of influence. We all know who has the winning idea here.
 
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One day, yeah we won't be the strongest country (or top 2) anymore. But that won't be anytime soon and not because of some angry Russian currency scheme lol. As the most modern country, it seems every new economic driver comes out of the US.

As Deputy Secretary of State in charge of dealing with the Soviet breakup, Strobe Talbott influenced Russian policy the most during the Clinton years, and if you want to know what happened after Soviet dissolution you should listen to him:

View: https://youtu.be/RtVeN-MXEFc?t=1971
He says: "Is the Gorbachev-Yeltsin era (of Westernizing and friendly US relations), the anomaly, and the Putin era is what we’re going to be living with for the next decades, or much of the rest of the century? Or is it the other way around? "

Interviewer: "Tell me."

… "You can certainly guess what I hope. My hope is not just hopeful thinking. There is a little bit of objective reason for believing that "Putinism"—and it’s quite extraordinary when a leader becomes an “ism”—that it will fail. I'm going to squeeze it down to oversimplicity.

So much of what Putin is doing as the supreme leader of Russia is atavistic (ancestral). It’s a throwback to a system, a set of behaviors, a means of controlling society, a means of bullying and in some cases expanding into the borderlands and so forth and so on, that one has to objectively say: “Wait a minute. They tried that already, and it didn’t work.” The Soviet Union had a lifespan that the Bible tells us we as individual mortal beings can have, 70 years. And it died. It died. It was killed by a lot of the pathologies—authoritarianism, revanchism, the big lie, the iron fist, and an inability or a refusal to modernize the society and economy. Whoever said it, if anybody said it, if insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, even though it’s failed. It’s insane, or at least it won't work for very long." -Strobe Talbott



I'm not sure why you've got to keep cutting our troops down or fantasizing about our downfall. Why does our troop's grit and mettle matter to you? Strobe Talbott also said this a long time ago:
"President Putin needs to understand that the international community's ability to help him succeed in making Russia a strong country is going to depend in large measure on how he defines strength. Will he define strength in the terms of the twentieth century and the nineteenth century and the eighteenth century, which is that strength equals force? Or will he define strength in twenty-first century terms, in which strength means your ability to plug into the global economy, and to be a full and vigorous participant in the international community?"

For some reason, like Putin, you think all that matters is military might and who can force their will onto who. Well, the UN voted 141-7 to condemn that and 40 countries sent Ukraine aid.

If Russia had equal equipment (and now we know they don't) and equal budget and equal numbers, and invaded us I'm sure we would fight back just as ferociously as the Ukrainians. Like after Pearl Harbor or 9-11. If we invaded them it wouldn't be good for us either.

As the Vietnamese bicyclists on the Ho Chi Minh trail showed us after we took out their trucks and dropped more bombs on them than all of WWII,
29906374058_947c47229b_b.jpg
11697_08%20(11).jpg

it's not always about force or strength, more often it all comes down to your will to fight. Ukraine is fighting for their country's existence, Russia is fighting over an outdated belief that they should be an empire and great power again and keep their spheres of influence. We all know who has the winning idea here

The brainwashing is very efficient in Usa for a sheep like you
 
Yea yeah, the country with the 1st Ammendment, free speech and privately/independently owned free press brainwashes everyone :rolleyes:

Lmfao.

Just like that bullshit you spew about Ukraine being a "democracy" and we're fighting for "sovereignty and independence"

And a "free press" that functions as the propoganda arm of the establishment.

"Democratic nations" what a fukkin joke.

Ukraine is an oligarch-run puppet of the US & NATO.

We fund their whole government and tell them who can serve in it. We veto their diplomatic deals. Ukraine is not even sovereign, let alone democratic.

And only an idiot like you would deny that our "free press" doesn't brainwash people
 
One day, yeah we won't be the strongest country (or even top 2) anymore. But that won't be anytime soon and not because of some angry Russian currency scheme lol. As the most modern country, it seems every new innovative economic driver comes out of the US.

As Deputy Secretary of State in charge of dealing with the Soviet breakup, Strobe Talbott influenced Russian policy the most during the Clinton years, and if you want to know what happened after Soviet dissolution you should listen to him:

View: https://youtu.be/RtVeN-MXEFc?t=1971
He says: "Is the Gorbachev-Yeltsin era (of Westernizing and friendly US relations), the anomaly, and the Putin era is what we’re going to be living with for the next decades, or much of the rest of the century? Or is it the other way around? "

Interviewer: "Tell me."

… "You can certainly guess what I hope. My hope is not just hopeful thinking. There is a little bit of objective reason for believing that "Putinism"—and it’s quite extraordinary when a leader becomes an “ism”—that it will fail. I'm going to squeeze it down to oversimplicity.

So much of what Putin is doing as the supreme leader of Russia is atavistic (ancestral). It’s a throwback to a system, a set of behaviors, a means of controlling society, a means of bullying and in some cases expanding into the borderlands and so forth and so on, that one has to objectively say: “Wait a minute. They tried that already, and it didn’t work.” The Soviet Union had a lifespan that the Bible tells us we as individual mortal beings can have, 70 years. And it died. It died. It was killed by a lot of the pathologies—authoritarianism, revanchism, the big lie, the iron fist, and an inability or a refusal to modernize the society and economy. Whoever said it, if anybody said it, if insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, even though it’s failed. It’s insane, or at least it won't work for very long." -Strobe Talbott



I'm not sure why you've got to keep cutting our troops down or fantasizing about our downfall. Why does our troop's grit and mettle matter to you? Strobe Talbott also said this a long time ago:
"President Putin needs to understand that the international community's ability to help him succeed in making Russia a strong country is going to depend in large measure on how he defines strength. Will he define strength in the terms of the twentieth century and the nineteenth century and the eighteenth century, which is that strength equals force? Or will he define strength in twenty-first century terms, in which strength means your ability to plug into the global economy, and to be a full and vigorous participant in the international community?"

For some reason, like Putin, you think all that matters is military might and who can force their will onto who. Well, the UN voted 141-7 to condemn that and 40 countries sent Ukraine aid.

If Russia had equal equipment (and now we know they don't) and equal budget and equal numbers, and invaded us I'm sure we would fight back just as ferociously as the Ukrainians. Like after Pearl Harbor or 9-11. If we invaded them it wouldn't be good for us either.

As the Vietnamese bicyclists on the Ho Chi Minh trail showed us after we took out their trucks and dropped more bombs on them than all of WWII,
29906374058_947c47229b_b.jpg
11697_08%20(11).jpg

it's not always about force or strength, more often it all comes down to your will to fight. Ukraine is fighting for their country's existence, Russia is fighting over an outdated belief that they should be an empire and great power again and keep their spheres of influence. We all know who has the winning idea here.


What a dumb fuk

I'm not knocking our soldiers, but the truth is they're not at all what they used to be.

Individually or collectively. Most think war is like a Safari riding around in helicopters and armored vehicles shooting at guys wearing bed sheets and riding camels. Because that's what they've been doing for the past thirty years

That and socially engineering themselves to be weaker and less capable


Besides, you're a fuckin moron if you think that Washington could even put 70k armed, trained and equipped combat prepared infantry soldiers in Ukraine to face Russia anytime soon.

That's not even remotely possible. They can't recruit an army of fighting men from the arklatex, Appalachia and Florida anymore because those people will not fight for Washington ever again.

And 70k? Not possible, and it's not even one quarter of what it would require to fight Russia in it's own backyard.

It would be stupid to try. We couldn't win and besides.... We have no reason to go to war with Russia!

Not over a corrupt Eastern European ogliarchy that bribed Joe Biden

You keep telling bullshit fairytales all you want. It's not going to change the outcome or reality here.
 
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Lmfao.

Just like that bullshit you spew about Ukraine being a "democracy" and we're fighting for "sovereignty and independence"

And a "free press" that functions as the propoganda arm of the establishment.

"Democratic nations" what a fukkin joke.

Ukraine is an oligarch-run puppet of the US & NATO.

We fund their whole government and tell them who can serve in it. We veto their diplomatic deals. Ukraine is not even sovereign, let alone democratic.

And only an idiot like you would deny that our "free press" doesn't brainwash people
Free press lol
 
Lmfao.

Just like that bullshit you spew about Ukraine being a "democracy" and we're fighting for "sovereignty and independence"

And a "free press" that functions as the propoganda arm of the establishment.

"Democratic nations" what a fukkin joke.

Ukraine is an oligarch-run puppet of the US & NATO.

We fund their whole government and tell them who can serve in it. We veto their diplomatic deals. Ukraine is not even sovereign, let alone democratic.

And only an idiot like you would deny that our "free press" doesn't brainwash people
Conspiracy rantings of a paranoid, sick mind.

Besides, you're a fuckin moron if you think that Washington could even put 70k armed, trained and equipped combat prepared infantry soldiers in Ukraine to face Russia anytime soon.

That's not even remotely possible. They can't recruit an army of fighting men from the arklatex, Appalachia and Florida anymore because those people will not fight for Washington ever again.

And 70k? Not possible, and it's not even one quarter of what it would require to fight Russia in it's own backyard.

It would be stupid to try. We couldn't win and besides.... We have no reason to go to war with Russia!
We don't have to. We're not fighting. The Ukrainians have hundreds of thousands of fighters and are doing pretty well on their own. The Soviets were afraid to go toe to toe with us in the Vietnam War.

Free press lol
Yeah it's kind of a founding principle of our country. The constitution guarantees they can report whatever they want. You should try it sometime in yours. Here is countries ranked by the press freedom index:
Country2022
[4]
2021
[5]
2020
[6]
2019
[7]
2018
[8]
Norway(001)
92.65
(001)
93.28
(001)
92.16
(001)
92.18
(001)
92.37
Denmark(002)
90.27
(004)
91.43
(003)
91.87
(005)
90.13
(009)
86.01
Sweden(003)
88.84
(003)
92.76
(004)
90.75
(003)
91.69
(002)
91.69
Estonia(004)
88.83
(015)
84.75
(014)
87.39
(011)
87.73
(012)
85.92
Finland(005)
88.42
(002)
93.01
(002)
92.07
(002)
92.10
(004)
89.74
Ireland(006)
88.3
(012)
88.09
(013)
87.40
(015)
85.00
(016)
85.41
Portugal(007)
87.07
(009)
89.89
(010)
88.17
(012)
87.37
(014)
85.83
Costa Rica(008)
85.92
(005)
91.24
(007)
89.47
(010)
87.76
(010)
85.99
Lithuania(009)
84.14
(028)
79.95
(028)
78.81
(030)
77.94
(036)
77.80
Liechtenstein(010)
84.03
(023)
80.51
(024)
80.48
(026)
79.51
(030)
79.51
New Zealand(011)
83.54
(008)
89.96
(009)
89.31
(007)
89.25
(008)
86.38
Jamaica(012)
83.35
(007)
90.04
(006)
89.49
(008)
88.87
(006)
88.67
Seychelles(013)
83.33
(052)
74.34
(063)
71.34
(069)
70.59
(085)
69.83
Switzerland(014)
82.72
(010)
89.45
(008)
89.38
(006)
89.48
(005)
88.73
Iceland(015)
82.69
(016)
84.63
(015)
84.88
(014)
85.29
(013)
85.90
Germany(016)
82.04
(013)
84.76
(011)
87.84
(013)
85.40
(015)
85.61
East Timor(017)
81.89
(071)
70.89
(078)
70.10
(084)
70.07
(095)
69.19
Namibia(018)
81.84
(024)
80.28
(023)
80.75
(023)
81.05
(026)
79.76
Canada(019)
81.74
(013)
84.75
(016)
84.71
(018)
84.31
(018)
84.72
Czech Republic(020)
80.54
(040)
76.62
(040)
76.43
(040)
75.11
(034)
78.11
Luxembourg(021)
79.81
(020)
82.44
(017)
84.54
(017)
84.34
(017)
85.28
Latvia(022)
79.17
(022)
80.74
(022)
81.44
(024)
80.47
(024)
80.37
Belgium(023)
78.86
(011)
88.31
(012)
87.43
(009)
87.93
(007)
86.84
United Kingdom(024)
78.71
(033)
78.41
(035)
77.07
(033)
77.77
(040)
76.75
Trinidad and Tobago(025)
78.68
(031)
78.45
(036)
76.78
(039)
75.26
(039)
77.21
France(026)
78.53
(034)
77.4
(034)
77.08
(032)
77.79
(033)
78.13
Slovakia(027)
78.37
(035)
76.98
(033)
77.33
(035)
76.42
(027)
79.74
Netherlands(028)
77.93
(006)
90.33
(005)
90.04
(004)
91.37
(003)
89.99
Argentina(029)
77.28
(069)
71.01
(064)
71.22
(057)
71.70
(052)
73.95
Dominican Republic(030)
76.9
(050)
74.4
(055)
72.10
(055)
72.10
(059)
73.21
Austria(031)
76.74
(017)
83.66
(018)
84.22
(016)
84.67
(011)
85.96
Spain(032)
76.71
(029)
79.56
(029)
77.84
(029)
78.01
(031)
79.49
Bhutan(033)
76.46
(065)
71.14
(067)
71.10
(080)
70.19
(094)
69.27
Guyana(034)
76.41
(051)
74.39
(049)
73.37
(051)
73.37
(055)
73.75
South Africa(035)
75.56
(032)
78.41
(031)
77.59
(031)
77.81
(028)
79.61
Cape Verde(036)
75.37
(027)
79.91
(025)
79.85
(025)
80.19
(029)
79.61
Ivory Coast(037)
74.46
(066)
71.13
(068)
71.06
(071)
70.48
(082)
69.92
Taiwan(038)
74.08
(043)
76.14
(043)
76.24
(042)
75.02
(042)
76.64
Australia(039)
73.77
(025)
80.21
(026)
79.79
(021)
83.45
(019)
84.54
Moldova(040)
73.47
(089)
68.39
(091)
68.84
(091)
68.79
(081)
69.99
Burkina Faso(041)
73.12
(037)
76.83
(038)
76.53
(036)
75.47
(041)
76.67
23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png
United States
(042)
72.74
(044)
76.07
(045)
76.15
(048)
74.31
(045)
76.27
South Korea(043)
72.11
(042)
76.57
(042)
76.30
(041)
75.06
(043)
76.49
Uruguay(044)
72.03
(018)
83.62
(019)
84.21
(019)
83.94
(020)
84.44
Samoa(045)
71.39
(021)
80.76
(021)
81.75
(022)
81.75
(022)
83.31
Sierra Leone(046)
71.03
(075)
70.39
(085)
69.72
(086)
69.64
(079)
70.02
Belize(047)
70.67
(053)
72.39
(053)
72.50
(053)
72.50
(047)
75.45
Croatia(048)
70.42
(056)
72.05
(059)
71.49
(064)
70.97
(069)
71.06
Tonga(049)
69.74
(046)
75.41
(050)
72.73
(045)
74.59
(051)
74.32
Gambia(050)
69.25
(085)
69.24
(087)
69.38
(092)
68.65
(122)
61.64
Armenia(051)
68.97
(063)
71.17
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(036)
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(032)
77.36
(034)
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(032)
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(045)
76.02
(044)
76.22
(050)
73.96
(035)
77.89
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(048)
75.09
(048)
74.09
(047)
74.33
(044)
76.35
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68.44
(090)
68.33
(092)
68.72
(095)
68.34
(109)
67.57
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68.16
(041)
76.61
(041)
76.31
(043)
75.02
(046)
75.88
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67.8
(059)
71.56
(057)
71.75
(066)
70.74
(063)
72.60
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67.43
(030)
78.67
(030)
77.74
(027)
79.19
(023)
81.59
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67
(078)
69.68
(070)
70.67
(075)
70.32
(078)
70.39
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66.66
(047)
75.12
(046)
76.07
(038)
75.30
(053)
73.81
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(104)
65.67
(105)
66.17
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67.26
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68.79
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(061)
71.26
(056)
72.00
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71.54
(056)
73.55
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65.97
(026)
80.15
(027)
79.55
(028)
78.26
(025)
80.15
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65.64
(064)
71.16
(062)
71.35
(059)
71.11
(058)
73.41
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65.64
(058)
71.66
(058)
71.49
(063)
70.98
(062)
72.63
Ecuador(068)
64.61
(096)
67.17
(098)
67.38
(097)
68.12
(092)
69.44
Kenya(069)
64.59
(102)
66.35
(103)
66.28
(100)
67.56
(096)
69.18
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64.55
(087)
68.88
(083)
69.80
(062)
71.00
(060)
73.18
Japan(071)
64.37
(067)
71.12
(066)
71.14
(067)
70.64
(067)
71.36
Kyrgyzstan(072)
64.25
(079)
69.63
(082)
69.81
(083)
70.08
(098)
69.00
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63.07
(049)
74.78
(047)
76.01
(049)
74.19
(050)
74.39
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(077)
70.06
(076)
70.22
(079)
70.22
(091)
69.44
Liberia(075)
62.77
(098)
66.64
(095)
67.75
(093)
68.51
(089)
69.67
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(106)
65.38
(112)
64.90
(106)
66.60
(106)
67.95
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(091)
68.29
(090)
69.06
(085)
69.78
(088)
69.73
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61.55
(081)
69.54
(081)
69.84
(077)
70.26
(065)
72.56
Serbia(079)
61.51
(093)
67.97
(093)
68.38
(090)
68.82
(076)
70.42
Malawi(080)
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(062)
71.2
(069)
70.68
(068)
70.64
(064)
72.57
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(076)
70.18
(077)
70.21
(074)
70.33
(077)
70.41
Chile(082)
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(054)
72.11
(051)
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(046)
74.35
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77.31
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(084)
69.35
(075)
70.23
(056)
72.09
(049)
74.70
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(109)
64.58
(110)
65.66
(107)
66.51
(104)
68.10
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(092)
68.24
(089)
69.16
(087)
69.56
(073)
70.89
Israel(086)
59.62
(086)
69.1
(088)
69.16
(088)
69.20
(087)
69.74
Maldives(087)
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(072)
70.87
(079)
70.07
(098)
67.84
(120)
62.05
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69.55
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70.26
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71.22
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71.36
(060)
71.41
(060)
71.02
(061)
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(068)
71.03
(073)
70.39
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70.49
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70.95
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(112)
62.71
(111)
64.94
(111)
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64.78
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(095)
67.32
(094)
67.94
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69.05
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69.91
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(118)
61.17
(118)
63.44
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63.96
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(072)
70.55
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(039)
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(044)
74.91
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(100)
66.48
(100)
67.03
(099)
67.60
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67.68
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67.46
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68.35
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70.91
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(057)
71.76
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(103)
65.94
(106)
66.08
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65.04
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61.64
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(074)
70.41
(071)
70.67
(076)
70.31
(086)
69.77
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(126)
58.08
(132)
57.13
(145)
52.73
(112)
64.75
Fiji(102)
56.91
(055)
72.08
(052)
72.59
(052)
72.82
(057)
73.45
Albania(103)
56.41
(083)
69.41
(084)
69.75
(082)
70.16
(075)
70.51
Chad(104)
56.18
(123)
59.8
(123)
60.30
(122)
63.29
(123)
61.55
Gabon(105)
56
(117)
61.4
(121)
62.80
(115)
64.40
(108)
67.63
Ukraine(106)
55.76
(097)
67.04
(096)
67.48
(102)
67.54
(101)
68.84
Burundi(107)
55.74
(147)
52.43
(160)
44.67
(159)
47.11
(159)
44.74
Greece(108)
55.52
(070)
70.99
(065)
71.20
(065)
70.92
(074)
70.81
Zambia(109)
55.4
(115)
61.79
(120)
63.00
(119)
63.62
(113)
64.64
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55.36
(111)
63.75
(107)
65.95
(105)
67.21
(102)
68.80
Mali(111)
54.48
(099)
66.5
(108)
65.88
(112)
64.77
(115)
63.85
El Salvador(112)
54.09
(082)
69.51
(074)
70.30
(081)
70.19
(066)
72.22
Malaysia(113)
51.55
(119)
60.53
(101)
66.88
(123)
63.26
(145)
52.59
Ethiopia(114)
50.53
(101)
66.37
(099)
67.18
(110)
64.89
(150)
49.83
Thailand(115)
50.15
(137)
54.78
(140)
55.06
(136)
55.90
(140)
55.69
Mozambique(116)
49.89
(108)
64.61
(104)
66.21
(103)
67.34
(099)
68.88
Indonesia(117)
49.27
(113)
62.6
(119)
63.18
(124)
63.23
(124)
60.32
Cameroon(118)
49.1
(135)
56.22
(134)
56.72
(131)
56.68
(129)
59.08
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49.03
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57.4
(129)
57.49
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57.49
(125)
59.84
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48.66
(129)
57.11
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57.92
(130)
56.89
(132)
58.29
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48.39
(114)
61.82
(113)
64.89
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68.26
(084)
69.84
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(155)
49.72
(157)
45.89
(158)
47.18
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45.59
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(124)
59.31
(124)
59.75
(118)
63.72
(093)
69.35
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47.94
(116)
61.55
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64.26
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64.06
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63.83
DR Congo(125)
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(149)
51.41
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50.91
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48.29
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48.40
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47.58
(110)
64.53
(114)
64.63
(113)
64.62
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67.55
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(143)
53.29
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54.55
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53.22
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51.09
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47.06
(139)
54.22
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55.51
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54.35
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53.12
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60.31
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64.37
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63.50
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62.59
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65.07
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66.81
(101)
67.56
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68.85
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(141)
53.66
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54.85
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50.91
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48.54
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(125)
58.81
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59.05
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60.58
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64.23
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49.26
(156)
46.93
(160)
46.48
(165)
39.16
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45.53
(146)
52.74
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54.48
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54.25
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56.87
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45.42
(136)
56.06
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57.12
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56.02
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56.87
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49.34
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49.66
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47.57
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47.10
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56.88
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59.05
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57.77
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59.47
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(131)
56.87
(131)
57.31
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56.37
(128)
59.14
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44.8
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44.77
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48.59
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49.05
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44.53
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44.55
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42.76
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36.96
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44.33
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43.62
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41.65
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33.53
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53.16
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54.54
(143)
54.10
(142)
54.10
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43.16
(165)
44.27
(164)
44.23
(162)
44.23
(162)
43.21
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42.53
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50.09
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50.35
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48.52
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48.52
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42.43
(134)
56.26
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57.34
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57.18
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58.97
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42.13
(127)
57.8
(127)
58.06
(126)
60.39
(131)
58.63
Philippines(147)
41.84
(138)
54.36
(136)
56.46
(134)
56.09
(133)
57.47
Hong Kong(148)
41.64
(080)
69.56
(080)
69.99
(073)
70.35
(070)
70.96
Turkey(149)
41.25
(153)
50.21
(154)
49.98
(157)
47.19
(157)
46.50
India(150)
41
(142)
53.44
(142)
54.67
(140)
54.33
(138)
56.76
Sudan(151)
40.96
(159)
47.07
(159)
44.67
(175)
27.55
(174)
28.87
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40.26
(162)
44.48
(161)
44.66
(161)
45.98
(149)
49.94
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39.62
(158)
49.18
(153)
50.25
(153)
48.34
(155)
47.41
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39.4
(167)
41.23
(168)
41.52
(166)
40.87
(163)
40.27
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Russia
(155)
38.82
(150)
51.29
(149)
51.08
(149)
49.69
(148)
50.04
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38.27
(122)
59.81
(122)
62.30
(121)
63.45
(118)
62.72
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37.99
(145)
53.14
(145)
54.48
(142)
54.17
(139)
56.76
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37.87
(105)
65.64
(109)
65.70
(108)
66.14
(105)
68.09
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37.78
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52.4
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54.34
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50.90
(143)
53.97
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37.09
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60.02
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64.19
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64.47
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69.59
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29.44
(172)
35.72
(171)
35.51
(170)
33.59
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36.63
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50.29
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50.63
(150)
49.26
(146)
51.38
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35.99
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56.63
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56.58
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56.58
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59.33
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35.75
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21.38
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23.27
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28.64
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29.23
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50.65
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51.80
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51.47
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54.77
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33.71
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37.27
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37.86
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34.12
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36.87
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30.97
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38.9
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39.87
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38.69
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39.15
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30.23
(166)
43.83
(166)
43.18
(163)
43.53
(161)
43.28
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29.14
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37.65
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41.75
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38.34
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37.77
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28.98
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56.82
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55.91
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55.32
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57.04
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28.94
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29.37
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27.43
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28.22
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20.78
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44.43
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44.63
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47.40
(160)
43.44
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27.32
(171)
36.06
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36.19
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36.19
(172)
31.10
Vietnam(174)
26.11
(175)
21.54
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25.29
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25.07
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24.95
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25.17
(177)
21.28
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21.52
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21.08
(176)
21.71
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25.03
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53.86
(139)
55.23
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55.08
(137)
56.85
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25.01
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19.97
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14.56
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14.56
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15.80
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23.22
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27.3
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35.19
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35.59
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39.29
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18.55
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16.50
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19.74
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15.76
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18.72
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14.18
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16.60
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11.13
 
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Here's John Beryle, former ambassador to Russia, on their media:

View: https://youtu.be/E6Lv-3OiPhY?t=546

How did you feel? I mean, if I was standing there in your perch and seeing this new guy come in, and suddenly the media, especially the media, is one of the first things that he takes control of, that feels like a giant step backward.

It didn’t happen all at once. There were stages to it. There was a Russian television network called NTV, which under Yeltsin had been really the voice of opposition and had gotten Russians used to the new circumstances of actually hearing their leaders criticized on the nightly news. I think it was pretty clear that Putin was not going to continue with that, which in the eyes of even many Russians had gone a bit too far. This is a conservative country that’s not used to dealing with these sorts of freedoms. People can be easily convinced in Russia that these freedoms are actually turning into license and that they're injurious to the country, and that’s what Putin sought to do.

But he was also helped by circumstances. There was the terrible terrorist attack on the Nord-Ost, the theater in Russia, in Moscow, in 2002. … Over 100 Russian theatergoers were killed when they pumped fentanyl gas into the theater. Putin used the media coverage on NTV in particular, of the siege of that theater, to tighten the screws, shut down even more of the freedom in NTV. It was really at that point, I think, that it was clear that NTV, as it had existed up to that point, an alternative voice against the line coming out of the Kremlin, was going to be gone. Once Russia lost an independent NTV, it became a different country.


In what way?

It was a country in which you simply didn’t have the media speaking truth to power anymore. It became the country it had been before the Soviet Union fell apart, in which the media existed to serve the views, the agenda, the program of the party or the government.

The Guardian has an interesting article on it:

I mean, you don't see Biden shutting down media outlets and passing laws that put people in jail for criticizing our troops.
 
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We don't have to. We're not fighting. The Ukrainians have hundreds of thousands of fighters and are doing pretty well on their own.

Lmfao.
They're definitely not "on their own".

And if you consider thier entire NATO built, trained and equipped army has been destroyed, thier country pounded into rubble large parts occupied permanently and they're sure to ultimately lose as "pretty well" then you're delusional.

The only people gaining anything here is a few corrupt politicians in Washington and their handlers.



Yeah it's kind of a founding principle of our country. The constitution guarantees they can report whatever they want. You should try it sometime in yours. Here is countries ranked by the press freedom index:
Country2022
[4]
2021
[5]
2020
[6]
2019
[7]
2018
[8]
Norway(001)
92.65
(001)
93.28
(001)
92.16
(001)
92.18
(001)
92.37
Denmark(002)
90.27
(004)
91.43
(003)
91.87
(005)
90.13
(009)
86.01
Sweden(003)
88.84
(003)
92.76
(004)
90.75
(003)
91.69
(002)
91.69
Estonia(004)
88.83
(015)
84.75
(014)
87.39
(011)
87.73
(012)
85.92
Finland(005)
88.42
(002)
93.01
(002)
92.07
(002)
92.10
(004)
89.74
Ireland(006)
88.3
(012)
88.09
(013)
87.40
(015)
85.00
(016)
85.41
Portugal(007)
87.07
(009)
89.89
(010)
88.17
(012)
87.37
(014)
85.83
Costa Rica(008)
85.92
(005)
91.24
(007)
89.47
(010)
87.76
(010)
85.99
Lithuania(009)
84.14
(028)
79.95
(028)
78.81
(030)
77.94
(036)
77.80
Liechtenstein(010)
84.03
(023)
80.51
(024)
80.48
(026)
79.51
(030)
79.51
New Zealand(011)
83.54
(008)
89.96
(009)
89.31
(007)
89.25
(008)
86.38
Jamaica(012)
83.35
(007)
90.04
(006)
89.49
(008)
88.87
(006)
88.67
Seychelles(013)
83.33
(052)
74.34
(063)
71.34
(069)
70.59
(085)
69.83
Switzerland(014)
82.72
(010)
89.45
(008)
89.38
(006)
89.48
(005)
88.73
Iceland(015)
82.69
(016)
84.63
(015)
84.88
(014)
85.29
(013)
85.90
Germany(016)
82.04
(013)
84.76
(011)
87.84
(013)
85.40
(015)
85.61
East Timor(017)
81.89
(071)
70.89
(078)
70.10
(084)
70.07
(095)
69.19
Namibia(018)
81.84
(024)
80.28
(023)
80.75
(023)
81.05
(026)
79.76
Canada(019)
81.74
(013)
84.75
(016)
84.71
(018)
84.31
(018)
84.72
Czech Republic(020)
80.54
(040)
76.62
(040)
76.43
(040)
75.11
(034)
78.11
Luxembourg(021)
79.81
(020)
82.44
(017)
84.54
(017)
84.34
(017)
85.28
Latvia(022)
79.17
(022)
80.74
(022)
81.44
(024)
80.47
(024)
80.37
Belgium(023)
78.86
(011)
88.31
(012)
87.43
(009)
87.93
(007)
86.84
United Kingdom(024)
78.71
(033)
78.41
(035)
77.07
(033)
77.77
(040)
76.75
Trinidad and Tobago(025)
78.68
(031)
78.45
(036)
76.78
(039)
75.26
(039)
77.21
France(026)
78.53
(034)
77.4
(034)
77.08
(032)
77.79
(033)
78.13
Slovakia(027)
78.37
(035)
76.98
(033)
77.33
(035)
76.42
(027)
79.74
Netherlands(028)
77.93
(006)
90.33
(005)
90.04
(004)
91.37
(003)
89.99
Argentina(029)
77.28
(069)
71.01
(064)
71.22
(057)
71.70
(052)
73.95
Dominican Republic(030)
76.9
(050)
74.4
(055)
72.10
(055)
72.10
(059)
73.21
Austria(031)
76.74
(017)
83.66
(018)
84.22
(016)
84.67
(011)
85.96
Spain(032)
76.71
(029)
79.56
(029)
77.84
(029)
78.01
(031)
79.49
Bhutan(033)
76.46
(065)
71.14
(067)
71.10
(080)
70.19
(094)
69.27
Guyana(034)
76.41
(051)
74.39
(049)
73.37
(051)
73.37
(055)
73.75
South Africa(035)
75.56
(032)
78.41
(031)
77.59
(031)
77.81
(028)
79.61
Cape Verde(036)
75.37
(027)
79.91
(025)
79.85
(025)
80.19
(029)
79.61
Ivory Coast(037)
74.46
(066)
71.13
(068)
71.06
(071)
70.48
(082)
69.92
Taiwan(038)
74.08
(043)
76.14
(043)
76.24
(042)
75.02
(042)
76.64
Australia(039)
73.77
(025)
80.21
(026)
79.79
(021)
83.45
(019)
84.54
Moldova(040)
73.47
(089)
68.39
(091)
68.84
(091)
68.79
(081)
69.99
Burkina Faso(041)
73.12
(037)
76.83
(038)
76.53
(036)
75.47
(041)
76.67
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United States
(042)
72.74
(044)
76.07
(045)
76.15
(048)
74.31
(045)
76.27
South Korea(043)
72.11
(042)
76.57
(042)
76.30
(041)
75.06
(043)
76.49
Uruguay(044)
72.03
(018)
83.62
(019)
84.21
(019)
83.94
(020)
84.44
Samoa(045)
71.39
(021)
80.76
(021)
81.75
(022)
81.75
(022)
83.31
Sierra Leone(046)
71.03
(075)
70.39
(085)
69.72
(086)
69.64
(079)
70.02
Belize(047)
70.67
(053)
72.39
(053)
72.50
(053)
72.50
(047)
75.45
Croatia(048)
70.42
(056)
72.05
(059)
71.49
(064)
70.97
(069)
71.06
Tonga(049)
69.74
(046)
75.41
(050)
72.73
(045)
74.59
(051)
74.32
Gambia(050)
69.25
(085)
69.24
(087)
69.38
(092)
68.65
(122)
61.64
Armenia(051)
68.97
(063)
71.17
(061)
71.40
(061)
71.02
(080)
70.01
Suriname(052)
68.95
(019)
83.05
(020)
82.50
(020)
83.62
(021)
83.56
Andorra(053)
68.79
(039)
76.68
(037)
76.77
(037)
75.37
(037)
77.79
Slovenia(054)
68.54
(036)
76.9
(032)
77.36
(034)
77.69
(032)
78.31
Organisation of Eastern Caribbean States(055)
68.49
(045)
76.02
(044)
76.22
(050)
73.96
(035)
77.89
Romania(056)
68.46
(048)
75.09
(048)
74.09
(047)
74.33
(044)
76.35
North Macedonia(057)
68.44
(090)
68.33
(092)
68.72
(095)
68.34
(109)
67.57
Italy(058)
68.16
(041)
76.61
(041)
76.31
(043)
75.02
(046)
75.88
Niger(059)
67.8
(059)
71.56
(057)
71.75
(066)
70.74
(063)
72.60
Ghana(060)
67.43
(030)
78.67
(030)
77.74
(027)
79.19
(023)
81.59
Kosovo(061)
67
(078)
69.68
(070)
70.67
(075)
70.32
(078)
70.39
Papua New Guinea(062)
66.66
(047)
75.12
(046)
76.07
(038)
75.30
(053)
73.81
Montenegro(063)
66.54
(104)
65.67
(105)
66.17
(104)
67.26
(103)
68.79
Mauritius(064)
66.07
(061)
71.26
(056)
72.00
(058)
71.54
(056)
73.55
Cyprus(065)
65.97
(026)
80.15
(027)
79.55
(028)
78.26
(025)
80.15
Poland(066)
65.64
(064)
71.16
(062)
71.35
(059)
71.11
(058)
73.41
Bosnia and Herzegovina(067)
65.64
(058)
71.66
(058)
71.49
(063)
70.98
(062)
72.63
Ecuador(068)
64.61
(096)
67.17
(098)
67.38
(097)
68.12
(092)
69.44
Kenya(069)
64.59
(102)
66.35
(103)
66.28
(100)
67.56
(096)
69.18
Haiti(070)
64.55
(087)
68.88
(083)
69.80
(062)
71.00
(060)
73.18
Japan(071)
64.37
(067)
71.12
(066)
71.14
(067)
70.64
(067)
71.36
Kyrgyzstan(072)
64.25
(079)
69.63
(082)
69.81
(083)
70.08
(098)
69.00
Senegal(073)
63.07
(049)
74.78
(047)
76.01
(049)
74.19
(050)
74.39
Panama(074)
62.78
(077)
70.06
(076)
70.22
(079)
70.22
(091)
69.44
Liberia(075)
62.77
(098)
66.64
(095)
67.75
(093)
68.51
(089)
69.67
Nepal(076)
62.67
(106)
65.38
(112)
64.90
(106)
66.60
(106)
67.95
Peru(077)
61.75
(091)
68.29
(090)
69.06
(085)
69.78
(088)
69.73
Malta(078)
61.55
(081)
69.54
(081)
69.84
(077)
70.26
(065)
72.56
Serbia(079)
61.51
(093)
67.97
(093)
68.38
(090)
68.82
(076)
70.42
Malawi(080)
61.4
(062)
71.2
(069)
70.68
(068)
70.64
(064)
72.57
Northern Cyprus(081)
61.08
(076)
70.18
(077)
70.21
(074)
70.33
(077)
70.41
Chile(082)
60.61
(054)
72.11
(051)
72.69
(046)
74.35
(038)
77.31
Comoros(083)
60.16
(084)
69.35
(075)
70.23
(056)
72.09
(049)
74.70
Guinea(084)
59.82
(109)
64.58
(110)
65.66
(107)
66.51
(104)
68.10
Hungary(085)
59.8
(092)
68.24
(089)
69.16
(087)
69.56
(073)
70.89
Israel(086)
59.62
(086)
69.1
(088)
69.16
(088)
69.20
(087)
69.74
Maldives(087)
59.55
(072)
70.87
(079)
70.07
(098)
67.84
(120)
62.05
Lesotho(088)
59.39
(088)
68.30
(086)
69.55
(078)
70.26
(068)
71.22
Georgia(089)
59.3
(060)
71.36
(060)
71.41
(060)
71.02
(061)
72.66
Mongolia(090)
59.17
(068)
71.03
(073)
70.39
(070)
70.49
(071)
70.95
Bulgaria(091)
59.12
(112)
62.71
(111)
64.94
(111)
64.89
(111)
64.78
Guinea-Bissau(092)
58.79
(095)
67.32
(094)
67.94
(089)
69.05
(083)
69.91
Congo(093)
58.64
(118)
61.17
(118)
63.44
(117)
63.96
(114)
64.58
Tunisia(094)
58.49
(073)
70.47
(072)
70.55
(072)
70.39
(097)
69.09
Botswana(095)
58.49
(038)
76.75
(039)
76.44
(044)
74.91
(048)
74.71
Paraguay(096)
58.36
(100)
66.48
(100)
67.03
(099)
67.60
(107)
67.68
Mauritania(097)
58.1
(094)
67.75
(097)
67.46
(094)
68.35
(072)
70.91
Madagascar(098)
58.02
(057)
71.76
(054)
72.32
(054)
72.24
(054)
73.80
Angola(099)
57.17
(103)
65.94
(106)
66.08
(109)
65.04
(121)
61.64
Togo(100)
57.17
(074)
70.41
(071)
70.67
(076)
70.31
(086)
69.77
Central African Republic(101)
56.96
(126)
58.08
(132)
57.13
(145)
52.73
(112)
64.75
Fiji(102)
56.91
(055)
72.08
(052)
72.59
(052)
72.82
(057)
73.45
Albania(103)
56.41
(083)
69.41
(084)
69.75
(082)
70.16
(075)
70.51
Chad(104)
56.18
(123)
59.8
(123)
60.30
(122)
63.29
(123)
61.55
Gabon(105)
56
(117)
61.4
(121)
62.80
(115)
64.40
(108)
67.63
Ukraine(106)
55.76
(097)
67.04
(096)
67.48
(102)
67.54
(101)
68.84
Burundi(107)
55.74
(147)
52.43
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44.67
(159)
47.11
(159)
44.74
Greece(108)
55.52
(070)
70.99
(065)
71.20
(065)
70.92
(074)
70.81
Zambia(109)
55.4
(115)
61.79
(120)
63.00
(119)
63.62
(113)
64.64
Brazil(110)
55.36
(111)
63.75
(107)
65.95
(105)
67.21
(102)
68.80
Mali(111)
54.48
(099)
66.5
(108)
65.88
(112)
64.77
(115)
63.85
El Salvador(112)
54.09
(082)
69.51
(074)
70.30
(081)
70.19
(066)
72.22
Malaysia(113)
51.55
(119)
60.53
(101)
66.88
(123)
63.26
(145)
52.59
Ethiopia(114)
50.53
(101)
66.37
(099)
67.18
(110)
64.89
(150)
49.83
Thailand(115)
50.15
(137)
54.78
(140)
55.06
(136)
55.90
(140)
55.69
Mozambique(116)
49.89
(108)
64.61
(104)
66.21
(103)
67.34
(099)
68.88
Indonesia(117)
49.27
(113)
62.6
(119)
63.18
(124)
63.23
(124)
60.32
Cameroon(118)
49.1
(135)
56.22
(134)
56.72
(131)
56.68
(129)
59.08
Qatar(119)
49.03
(128)
57.4
(129)
57.49
(128)
57.49
(125)
59.84
Jordan(120)
48.66
(129)
57.11
(128)
57.92
(130)
56.89
(132)
58.29
Benin(121)
48.39
(114)
61.82
(113)
64.89
(096)
68.26
(084)
69.84
Kazakhstan(122)
48.28
(155)
49.72
(157)
45.89
(158)
47.18
(158)
45.59
Tanzania(123)
48.28
(124)
59.31
(124)
59.75
(118)
63.72
(093)
69.35
Guatemala(124)
47.94
(116)
61.55
(116)
64.26
(116)
64.06
(116)
63.83
DR Congo(125)
47.66
(149)
51.41
(150)
50.91
(154)
48.29
(154)
48.40
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47.58
(110)
64.53
(114)
64.63
(113)
64.62
(110)
67.55
Mexico(127)
47.57
(143)
53.29
(143)
54.55
(144)
53.22
(147)
51.09
South Sudan(128)
47.06
(139)
54.22
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55.51
(139)
54.35
(144)
53.12
Nigeria(129)
46.79
(120)
60.31
(115)
64.37
(120)
63.50
(119)
62.59
Lebanon(130)
46.58
(107)
65.07
(102)
66.81
(101)
67.56
(100)
68.85
Eswatini(131)
46.42
(141)
53.66
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54.85
(147)
50.91
(152)
48.54
Uganda(132)
46.35
(125)
58.81
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59.05
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60.58
(117)
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Uzbekistan(133)
46.35
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49.26
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46.93
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46.48
(165)
39.16
Algeria(134)
45.53
(146)
52.74
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54.48
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54.25
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56.87
Morocco(135)
45.42
(136)
56.06
(133)
57.12
(135)
56.02
(135)
56.87
Rwanda(136)
45.18
(156)
49.34
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49.66
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47.57
(156)
47.10
Zimbabwe(137)
44.94
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59.05
(127)
57.77
(126)
59.47
United Arab Emirates(138)
44.46
(131)
56.87
(131)
57.31
(133)
56.37
(128)
59.14
Singapore(139)
44.23
(160)
44.8
(158)
44.77
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48.59
(151)
49.05
Somalia(140)
44.01
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44.53
(163)
44.55
(164)
42.76
(168)
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Equatorial Guinea(141)
43.96
(164)
44.33
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43.62
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41.65
(171)
33.53
Cambodia(142)
43.48
(144)
53.16
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54.54
(143)
54.10
(142)
54.10
Libya(143)
43.16
(165)
44.27
(164)
44.23
(162)
44.23
(162)
43.21
Brunei(144)
42.53
(154)
50.09
(152)
50.35
(152)
48.52
(153)
48.52
Colombia(145)
42.43
(134)
56.26
(130)
57.34
(129)
57.18
(130)
58.97
Sri Lanka(146)
42.13
(127)
57.8
(127)
58.06
(126)
60.39
(131)
58.63
Philippines(147)
41.84
(138)
54.36
(136)
56.46
(134)
56.09
(133)
57.47
Hong Kong(148)
41.64
(080)
69.56
(080)
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(073)
70.35
(070)
70.96
Turkey(149)
41.25
(153)
50.21
(154)
49.98
(157)
47.19
(157)
46.50
India(150)
41
(142)
53.44
(142)
54.67
(140)
54.33
(138)
56.76
Sudan(151)
40.96
(159)
47.07
(159)
44.67
(175)
27.55
(174)
28.87
Tajikistan(152)
40.26
(162)
44.48
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44.66
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45.98
(149)
49.94
Belarus(153)
39.62
(158)
49.18
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50.25
(153)
48.34
(155)
47.41
Azerbaijan(154)
39.4
(167)
41.23
(168)
41.52
(166)
40.87
(163)
40.27
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Russia
(155)
38.82
(150)
51.29
(149)
51.08
(149)
49.69
(148)
50.04
Afghanistan(156)
38.27
(122)
59.81
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62.30
(121)
63.45
(118)
62.72
Pakistan(157)
37.99
(145)
53.14
(145)
54.48
(142)
54.17
(139)
56.76
Kuwait(158)
37.87
(105)
65.64
(109)
65.70
(108)
66.14
(105)
68.09
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37.78
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52.4
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54.34
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50.90
(143)
53.97
Nicaragua(160)
37.09
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60.02
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64.19
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64.47
(090)
69.59
Laos(161)
36.64
(172)
29.44
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35.72
(171)
35.51
(170)
33.59
Bangladesh(162)
36.63
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50.29
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50.63
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49.26
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51.38
Oman(163)
35.99
(133)
56.63
(135)
56.58
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56.58
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59.33
Djibouti(164)
35.75
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21.38
(176)
23.27
(173)
28.64
(173)
29.23
Honduras(165)
34.61
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50.65
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51.80
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51.47
(141)
54.77
Saudi Arabia(166)
33.71
(170)
37.27
(170)
37.86
(172)
34.12
(169)
36.87
Bahrain(167)
30.97
(168)
38.9
(169)
39.87
(167)
38.69
(166)
39.15
Egypt(168)
30.23
(166)
43.83
(166)
43.18
(163)
43.53
(161)
43.28
Yemen(169)
29.14
(169)
37.65
(167)
41.75
(168)
38.34
(167)
37.77
Palestine(170)
28.98
(132)
56.82
(137)
55.91
(137)
55.32
(134)
57.04
Syria(171)
28.94
(173)
29.37
(174)
27.43
(174)
28.22
(177)
20.78
Iraq(172)
28.59
(163)
44.43
(162)
44.63
(156)
47.40
(160)
43.44
Cuba(173)
27.32
(171)
36.06
(171)
36.19
(169)
36.19
(172)
31.10
Vietnam(174)
26.11
(175)
21.54
(175)
25.29
(176)
25.07
(175)
24.95
China(175)
25.17
(177)
21.28
(177)
21.52
(177)
21.08
(176)
21.71
Myanmar(176)
25.03
(140)
53.86
(139)
55.23
(138)
55.08
(137)
56.85
Turkmenistan(177)
25.01
(178)
19.97
(179)
14.56
(180)
14.56
(178)
15.80
Iran(178)
23.22
(174)
27.3
(173)
35.19
(170)
35.59
(164)
39.29
Eritrea(179)
19.62
(180)
18.55
(178)
16.50
(178)
19.74
(179)
15.76
North Korea(180)
13.92
(179)
18.72
(180)
14.18
(179)
16.60
(180)
11.13


We haven't had a truly free and unbiased press in decades.

Posting a bunch of copy and paste bullshit of the press themselves claiming to be free and unbiased is a stupid joke.

They've literally been caught deliberately lying, censoring and spreading disinformation intentionally on behalf of the establishment.

When you have the press acting on behalf of the establishment to benifit themselves and specific political parties, then you don't have a "free press" and by definition you don't have a democracy
 
Lmfao.
They're definitely not "on their own".

And if you consider thier entire NATO built, trained and equipped army has been destroyed, thier country pounded into rubble large parts occupied permanently and they're sure to ultimately lose as "pretty well" then you're delusional.

The only people gaining anything here is a few corrupt politicians in Washington and their handlers.






We haven't had a truly free and unbiased press in decades.

Posting a bunch of copy and paste bullshit of the press themselves claiming to be free and unbiased is a stupid joke.

They've literally been caught deliberately lying, censoring and spreading disinformation intentionally on behalf of the establishment.

When you have the press acting on behalf of the establishment to benifit themselves and specific political parties, then you don't have a "free press" and by definition you don't have a democracy
Well here is the first ammendment of the constitution:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The day that goes away you have a point. Until then it's just you saying you're being lied to if you're not hearing your extremist views. Biden isn't shutting down media outlets or killing reporters.
 
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Biden isn't shutting down media outlets or killing reporters.

He doesn't have to. The mainstream media is an extension of his political party and the Washington DC establishment.

Zelensky however is shutting down media outlets and killing reporters, opposition parties and even churches.

With the full support of the biden administration

Again, neither case fits any meaningful definition of democracy or free press
 
He doesn't have to. The mainstream media is an extension of his political party and the Washington DC establishment.
Yes. And that's why the news reported the problems with the Afghanistan pull out, the classified documents Biden had and the Hunter Biden details, the DNC email leaks and so on... because they have no freedoms and Biden tells them what to do, right?

Zelensky however is shutting down media outlets and killing reporters, opposition parties and even churches.

With the full support of the biden administration

Again, neither case fits any meaningful definition of democracy or free press
Yes, Zelensky has been the one in Eurasia ruling over his country with an iron fist for 20 years. It totally fits your agenda if he's no better than Putin.

All these paranoid conspiracies of yours... are you off your meds? Are you seeing a therapist?
 
Well here is the first ammendment of the constitution:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The day that goes away you have a point. Until then it's just you saying you're being lied to if you're not hearing your extremist views. Biden isn't shutting down media outlets or killing reporters.
Fuck your statistic
you are the terrorist extremist who wants to impose deviant Western mores on other peoples with depleted uranium bombs words like democracy freedom or human rights mean nothing in the mouth of the white house. the world is opening its eyes the world changes . Saudi Arabia has just signed an agreement with one of your worst enemies Iran and the day they close the oil floodgates you will end up like in Mad Max 2 and I fear that with your sheep mentality you will not be neither Max nor Humungus the Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla
 
Yes. And that's why the news reported the problems with the Afghanistan

They told us for twenty years Afghanistan was going great and that the Washington proxy regime in Kabul would beat the Taliban.

pull out, the classified documents Biden had and the Hunter Biden details

Except they originally called Hunter Biden details "Russian disinformation" knowing full well it wasn't.

Only to quietly admit it after the election

, the DNC email leaks and so on..

Except they lied and blamed the DNC leaks on "Russian hackers"

. because they have no freedoms and Biden tells them what to do, right?

I think it's probably the other way around.

Joe Biden couldn't analyze a game of checkers

Yes, Zelensky has been the one in Eurasia ruling over his country with an iron fist for 20 years. It totally fits your agenda if he's no better than Putin.

Zelensky is doing everything you accuse Putin of doing.

So what makes him any better?
 
Fuck your statistic
you are the terrorist extremist who wants to impose deviant Western mores on other peoples with depleted uranium bombs words like democracy freedom or human rights mean nothing in the mouth of the white house. the world is opening its eyes the world changes . Saudi Arabia has just signed an agreement with one of your worst enemies Iran and the day they close the oil floodgates you will end up like in Mad Max 2 and I fear that with your sheep mentality you will not be neither Max nor Humungus the Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla

He'll be the guy in mad Max 1 riding around on the back of someone's motorcycle wearing a pair of pants with the ass cut out of them
 
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