Raw Material Situation

[Testotadeus]

Hello ironfriends,

Do you think the raw material situation will improve again in the coming months?
My buddy would like to get two or three hundred grams and be set for a lifetime of TRT.
He's tired of the constant stress of procuring it.
You never know what the future holds, so it would be nice to at least not have to worry about the testosterone you need for yourself anymore.
The price doesn't matter, as long as it's clean raw material.

At some point, the time must come when someone fills the gap... especially in an area where demand is so high...

Is anyone well informed and knows what to expect next year?
At some point, it must be possible to buy raw materials again if you are willing to pay the price.
It is clear that steroid prices will never be as cheap as they were before the crisis.

 

[Ghoul]

Hello ironfriends,

Do you think the raw material situation will improve again in the coming months?
My buddy would like to get two or three hundred grams and be set for a lifetime of TRT.
He's tired of the constant stress of procuring it.
You never know what the future holds, so it would be nice to at least not have to worry about the testosterone you need for yourself anymore.
The price doesn't matter, as long as it's clean raw material.

At some point, the time must come when someone fills the gap... especially in an area where demand is so high...

Is anyone well informed and knows what to expect next year?
At some point, it must be possible to buy raw materials again if you are willing to pay the price.
It is clear that steroid prices will never be as cheap as they were before the crisis.

The good news is everything will be back to normal next month.

I didn’t believe it the first time it was said, but since someone posts “my inside connects told me it’s going back to normal next month for sure”, every few weeks, for over a year now, it’s got to be true.

 

[juiceddawg]

that's good to hear Ghoul, thanks

 

[Ghoul]

that's good to hear Ghoul, thanks

I feel obligated to mention I was being sarcastic

No one knows. I’m confident I understand the root cause behind the crackdown, and see nothing that would reverse that situation. I don’t buy the “new production” claims, unless whoever’s making new raws thinks using their limited capacity to produce low demand niche AAS instead of the popular stuff commanding top dollar. Seems more like old leftover shit being sold off to me.

Large stocks were out there when production stopped, and they seem to leak into the market in small quantities,

All I can say is if what you want is/becomes available, you have to ask yourself which would hurt more:

-Paying a premium price now and be secure in the knowledge you’re all set for a long time. Long enough for availability to return hopefully.

-it becomes available for a lot less next week and you overpaid (but still have it at least)

-,wait for it to drop in price, and it either becomes even more expensive, lower quality, or not at all leaving you empty handed for a long time.

 

[Damaged1]

I feel like it has been getting better.

 

[Elektrobot]

Hello ironfriends,

Do you think the raw material situation will improve again in the coming months?
My buddy would like to get two or three hundred grams and be set for a lifetime of TRT.
He's tired of the constant stress of procuring it.
You never know what the future holds, so it would be nice to at least not have to worry about the testosterone you need for yourself anymore.
The price doesn't matter, as long as it's clean raw material.

At some point, the time must come when someone fills the gap... especially in an area where demand is so high...

Is anyone well informed and knows what to expect next year?
At some point, it must be possible to buy raw materials again if you are willing to pay the price.
It is clear that steroid prices will never be as cheap as they were before the crisis.

Instructions for raw updates

 

[adrenalytic]

-Paying a premium price now and be secure in the knowledge you’re all set for a long time. Long enough for availability to return hopefully.

-it becomes available for a lot less next week and you overpaid (but still have it at least)

-,wait for it to drop in price, and it either becomes even more expensive, lower quality, or not at all leaving you empty handed for a long time.

I play this game when ever I trade a stock or crypto.

 

[Sampei]

Hello ironfriends,

Do you think the raw material situation will improve again in the coming months?
My buddy would like to get two or three hundred grams and be set for a lifetime of TRT.
He's tired of the constant stress of procuring it.
You never know what the future holds, so it would be nice to at least not have to worry about the testosterone you need for yourself anymore.
The price doesn't matter, as long as it's clean raw material.

At some point, the time must come when someone fills the gap... especially in an area where demand is so high...

Is anyone well informed and knows what to expect next year?
At some point, it must be possible to buy raw materials again if you are willing to pay the price.
It is clear that steroid prices will never be as cheap as they were before the crisis.

Test C is available 98% purity, beautiful powder, smells nice and looks greater, just need to know where to look.

I don't think we will back soon to the time where raw were sold by any sources on the underground market and you couldn't get it wrong even if you wanted

 

[Dafty]

I’m confident I understand the root cause behind the crackdown, and see nothing that would reverse that situation.

Well.... Do share with the group....

 

[4Drago]

Tell your friend to join the group and do some research... its called reading. We used to do it back in the day.

 

[IndividualMan]

regarding the new production stuff.

Making large batches at acceptable qualities is a fucking pain. You need good equipment for that. Real nice equipment which only pays off if you can reliably produce in the multi-ton range for months on end.

Getting logistics and reliable supply of various chemicals needed for different syntheses getting set up for that is most likely tough, especially if chinese authorities have better surveillance on chemical producers nowadays.

Smaller batches of niche AAS are being made atm, I know of a few sources carrying odd DHT orals, 19-nor orals, etc.

Those do fetch a good price, and have a small but reliable market asking for them, no masisve amounts of chemicals needed due to batch size, which is why they are being made. But for most normal injectable AAS, you have labs wanting to order 50kg+ amounts to restock and start reliable production up again. People stocking up on multi kilo amounts as well, due to fomo, etc. Those amounts cannot be fulfilled for everyone currently.
Those fetch a worse price/gram, and arent being produced in large enough quantities for their respective markets.

Add to that additional secrecy regarding suppliers, (noone wants to proclaim that they know a producer and subsequently get picked up, or have their resale product undercut, etc.) and some labs go completely empty.

 

[vulpes]

I think its worth taking a step back on this one. The raws are out there but they are more expensive. Buying 300 grams will put you more out of pocket than it did when Ghoul started making what proved to be very accurate predictions of a shortage but in the greater scheme of things its still not a huge amount.

Yeah you might get it cheaper in 6 months but there is a risk attached to waiting. Running about sourcing a bit here and a bit there and paying lots of shipping will soon match up to the cost of just buying your 300 g of quality material and being beyond concern. Its still cheaper by far to get set for life than to not be, and peace of mind is worth a lot itself.

As you say in the end "The price doesn't matter, as long as it's clean raw material." If your friend does his research, he can still find this.