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Elektrobot
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How much do you weigh
What's your bodyfat
What are the macros for the food plan you will be following while taking over a gram of gear?
What is your training like?
Does your log book show such a stagnation that 1,250mg of gear is the only cure?
Did you try adding food? What was the result?
Did you sleep more? What was the result?
Did you train harder? What was the result?
Just 7 months ago you were asking "Do I need frequent bloodwork for 250mg test"....
What happened (or didn't happen) in 7 months that now demands over a gram of gear and 12iu of growth?
Elektrobot
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Based on what? You can't guess how much AI to take until you start the cycle and test your E2. You are just making up numbers dude.
I weigh 180 pounds
I am roughly around 12%
I just eat clean I don’t do meal preps
Hard and consistent 5 times a week
No I am on cut
Yes hgh makes it easy and recovery was great
Yes
250 was not enough to effect me that positivity nor negativity
Yes, I get from grey I can share source for free if interested, it’s pretty cheap for me 110$ for 360iu also it’s not pharma grade and right now I am on 6iu slowly building my way up
BALLISTIC
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This will be your 3rd cycle and you want to jump to 1g TestE, your at 250mg at the moment? Then the addition of either 750mg/1g Mast depending on your injection schedule weekly? With 12iu GH, and a blanket statement of 12.5mg Aro EOD
For perspective so you can see it clearly in its full picture 2g of gear. Just stop and ask yourself if this even remotely makes sense.
My recommendation, use this forum, educate yourself. But I'll give you the BIG hint, more gear doesn't always equate to more muscle. You're young okay play the long game and study up.
I will rethink it, thanks
BALLISTIC
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Solid move...your options are endless. The knowledge posted by many members is priceless. Throughout your research you'll come across many who have posted their labs and cycle logs. Within you'll find results vary far and great. You will be your own experience(ment), don't blow it off get your labs done throughout whatever cycle you determine... Start building the knowledge of you and your response.
Here's some more freebies.
Plan for side effects not just Estrogen. Write it down have ancillaries on hand before you cycle not after the BADS show up. I.e. Lipids, Blood pressure, so on.
Thanks very much man, Noted
What's the highest mg of gear your have run and IUs of GH. Honestly, sounds like a complete overkill. Ignore the advice about the dosage of a E2 inhibitor to use until you have blood testing to support (my guess is you will likely need it....but let testing AND most importantly symptoms dictate this....some guys feel very good on higher E2 with limited symptoms.)
Jesintn
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I dont know what your bone size is bc mine is kind of small , seven inch wrists, and Im six foot three inches
I compete in amature bodybuilding and that is high mgs for me. Forget about gh, 2.5 ius is what I do , three out of five days a week , yes budget concious. Years past 1 and 1.5 is what I did and probally if I could go back would just do 2.5 ius, when I had the funds for it
I dont like to share pitcures on forums, or sometimes even in private messages bc people seem to get ego driven but eff it, this is me when I was totally natural in 2007 at 215 lbs (again I have small wrists , which about 1/3 inch of wrist, tendons, ligaments equals 20 lbs)
I imagine guys like Samson now 360 lbs, and Andrew Jackd have 7.5, 8 inch wrists. One of my best friends , we grew up skateboarding has 8.5-9 inch wrists , weighed 250 lbs in high school and was not fat at sixteen years old he s about 6ft1. The most massive ive ever seen, and his pics are on fb when hes fifteen, just massive, and never lifted weights ever, besides one time benching 145 lbs first time when we were in high school playing around
Even when he was 18-20 he was 300 lbs, yes he broke a lot of boards but never had a gut per say. Hes about 400 lbs today , ran into him at Mcdonalds tonight, he was eating there, I was doordashing, he share a strong bond, and always will
I know this forum doesnt focus on nutriiton only gear, but at the time 350 grams protein, carbs and fats dependant
Nothing you could do about wrist, tendon, ligament, size except maybe high dose gh but that can ruin aesthetics for guys gifted with those
I compete in amature bodybuilding and that is high mgs for me. Forget about gh, 2.5 ius is what I do , three out of five days a week , yes budget concious. Years past 1 and 1.5 is what I did and probally if I could go back would just do 2.5 ius, when I had the funds for it
I dont like to share pitcures on forums, or sometimes even in private messages bc people seem to get ego driven but eff it, this is me when I was totally natural in 2007 at 215 lbs (again I have small wrists , which about 1/3 inch of wrist, tendons, ligaments equals 20 lbs)
I imagine guys like Samson now 360 lbs, and Andrew Jackd have 7.5, 8 inch wrists. One of my best friends , we grew up skateboarding has 8.5-9 inch wrists , weighed 250 lbs in high school and was not fat at sixteen years old he s about 6ft1. The most massive ive ever seen, and his pics are on fb when hes fifteen, just massive, and never lifted weights ever, besides one time benching 145 lbs first time when we were in high school playing around
Even when he was 18-20 he was 300 lbs, yes he broke a lot of boards but never had a gut per say. Hes about 400 lbs today , ran into him at Mcdonalds tonight, he was eating there, I was doordashing, he share a strong bond, and always will
I know this forum doesnt focus on nutriiton only gear, but at the time 350 grams protein, carbs and fats dependant
Nothing you could do about wrist, tendon, ligament, size except maybe high dose gh but that can ruin aesthetics for guys gifted with those
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Elektrobot
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You are 6'1, ran 2 cycles, and are only 180 pounds before being cut? Why do you think that is?
So you can see chest veins and quad veins?
Well there's your problem. You can spend effort on a forum writing and planning for the drugs you want to use.... but you can't make a food plan?
Food is likely your biggest weakness, and it is the most important part to get perfect.
Get step 1 right before you jump to step 100.
Food is the most anabolic thing on earth. If you don't have your nutrition planned, aren't measuring what you are eating on a scale, and aren't prepping to make sure you never deviate from the plan.... then you are just wasting time. It is absolutely foolish to not implement the most rock solid bullet proof carefully planned food plan possible. Without that, nothing happens. ..... And you end up 2 cycles deep with only 180 pounds to show for it.
You have typed paragraphs about drugs, across multiple threads and many months.... but you can barely mumble out 5 words to talk about your training?
Hope that shows you something about how you are approaching this. It sure shows us.
You are 24 and using hgh. Why? What was your natty igf before you started it?
Because you are doing it wrong
Taking more drugs isn't going to suddenly make you start doing it right
You need an education, not a pharmacy
