Rant About Religion

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Yes Lee Stobel made a lot of money with his - I was an atheist but found God story.

Its a great formula to mine Christians for money.

And yes I am very familiar with the design argument. Philosophers and scientists abandoned it a long time ago because it was fruitless. Professional Christian apologists have resurrected and repackaged it to rape Christian pockets.

Thing about design arguments Muslims, Christians and anybody else with a god use it to prove their one true God exists.
Its unfortunate that you are so clised minded regarding design.
The more you study it...from non christian sources or non religious i should say...the more scientific evidence you find that points to it.
I dont really care if we just happened to be lucky and evolve here or if the cosmos was a grand design but to me a grand design is the bottom line.
Neither argument affects my gains in the gym so....live and let live brother!
 
As promised link to court rejection of irreducible complexity. Huge waste of time and money to prove this idiocy wrong.

Creationists got a lot of attention and Christian peoples money for it tho, immoral frauds pretending to do science.

Irreducible complexity - Wikipedia
Wikipedia is NOT the best source for your facts.
However in the case of Dover the arguments for irreducible complexity was at best shitty. Poor examples with very little evidence that could convince a layperson(the judge) vs the well funded paid witnesses that refuted the argument.
Last year a team of research geneticists took a single cell bacteria from a cows stomach and began removing genes one at a time.
They were trying find how many genes it took to support life.
They would remove one the cell would die...they start over leaving that one alone in the next try and remove another until they got it down to like 250 genes required out of thousands...all of which were necessary for the cell to stay viably alive.
What i found interesting was that of the 250 genes required for life...there were like 70 that the scientist have no idea what they do or why they were there. Nut removing any one of them caused death of the cell.
During this research the found a gene that is like a wild card gene. It is required for life but this gene has the "power" to direct other genes to make the organism into anything it is programed to tell them to be.
It was hailed at the time as a huge discovery for genetics because it can be manipulated easily to direct the rest to say become a heart muscle vs a bicep.
I gotta go but i can find the research tonite when i get back.
I think you will find it fascinating.
 
Sounds interesting.
The gene modification is known as
CRISPR CAS/9.

If you google the term it should lead you to articles that refer to its discovery in 2016.
Whats scary about it is the CRISPR gene can be isolated and modified in a very small lab with very little technology vs previous genetic mods that took entire teams years to isolate and modify a particular gene to get a particular result.
In the wrong hands with no ethical limits some really bad shit could happen using this process.
Sorry it took a bit tonight to get back...but i was so damn tired ...been sleeping since i got off work.
Old age is a terrible thing.
 
Raised as a catholic i may SIN away, drop some coin in the basket, confess and be forgiven. The money part is what makes organized religion a problem for me. I now worship in my own way, on my terms, not writing a check every week. If you believe type AMEN. And share this. Lol. I AM AT PEACE WITH MY LORD. I dont need a building to worship, or follow my beliefs. I will expose my son to it and he can make up his own mind when he is old enough.
 
Ill save the entire story, however as a child, our landlord was pastor of a local church. He roamed the nearby rail road tracks in the afternoon, killing large rattlesnakes, the SERPENT i guess. My parents allowed him to take us to his church on sundays, for the summer. I was about 7, my brother a year younger. What followed was wrong. No, i will not elaborate, or answer questions. i know he is burning in hell right now.
 
Sounds interesting.
I just found out on a comment you made in another thread that we gotta be about the same age...hell i really thought u were a younger guy( no offense) cuz its mostly alot of young guys on here.
Really enjoyed the back and forth brother....i guess u and i are both getting closer to finding out which one of us is right.:cool:
 
Got a keg ordered...i have to pick it up at the pearly gates. They wont let me in.
When i get to you with the keg your gonna have to meet me cuz they wont let me in there either....afraid I'll take over.;)
 
I'm done hanging out with people I don't know. If there are a couple friends who are having a bunch of ppl I don't know over I'll skip out. I quit trying to figure people out a long time ago. I hang with like minded people and I'm getting old enough I'm over making new friends
 
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