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I try to always keep atleast a year supply
Proper freezer? Any freezer will do don't over think it
Ghoul
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A frost free freezer is a terrible idea.
JuiceStick
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There's vacuum in vials, so they act like thermos. In addition, defrost cycle doesn't increase the temperature above 0c, so there is no freeze-thaw cycle. There is zero evidence that frost free freezers are harmful to lyophilized peptides in vacuum
misterhuso
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Is qsc back or what, i was gone for a few weeks
bigforyouben
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"Back", yes. Same as before, no. But they are selling and delivering product.
Telegram for their latest news and price lists: @qsctgchannel
bigforyouben
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I'll probably get berated for spoon-feeding, but it's worth posting every couple dozen pages.
misterhuso
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Inalso always spoonfeed, but for me the qsc thread was only spam lol
nullandvoid
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I can't really give you a good answer (just yet). I'm a non/poor responder to GH. I gave GH at least three good efforts at 6+ months each (at least one was over a year). Even 0.5iU stints caused all sides and gave me zero benefits. No improved sleep, no improved fat metabolism.. nothing at all. But it did make my feet grow a full size, requiring me to replace all my shoes. It also made the bones (or soft tissue) in my wrists grow to the point they are now permanently "cramped." It's gotten better over the years, but it used to be really painful where it was hard to twist my wrists. I'd often turn them a certain way and they'd "catch," which was even worse. I also ended up an inch taller. I didn't think that was possible, but anyway, I finally gave up on GH entirely. The most obvious sides were the carpal tunnel, the numbness, bloat, and it also seemed to affect getting my breath in workouts (making it worse). So the intent of IGF-LR3 is to go at it from a different pathway. I bought two vials recently and ran 50mcg a day (systemic, not localized injections) as a test, but I've been in a very long-term deficit, so it really wasn't the best time. I have pretty good pumps anyway, so I can't even say it boosted me there. I'm now reverse dieting my way out of that deficit and will be entering a phase focused on hypertrophy. That is when I'm going to pick up a full kit and see what happens. But the question on my mind is how am I going to be able to tell if it's doing anything, or any gains just aren't simply coming from stimulus and surplus?
mikeh1998
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How old were you and what was the time frame for this? Did other people IRL notice it?
nullandvoid
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I was 51 at the time. Maxed out at 5'9" and then had a nurse come do an eval for life insurance. Measured me 5'10". I wouldn't put too much faith in it. Maybe I was 5'10" my whole life, and it was never measured right... and then I just kept parroting 5'9" whenever asked. But the foot size? Yea, that definitely happened. I was getting so pissed at the shoe brand I buy thinking their QA was shit. Then I measured my foot and thought "wtf?"
Ghoul
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IGF causes spinal discs to absorb additional water, expanding them, boosting (more often restoring age related atrophied/lost ) height.
IGF Signaling in Intervertebral Disc Health and Disease - PMC
Low back pain (LBP) is a common musculoskeletal symptom, which brings a lot of pain and economic loss to patients. One of the most common causes of LBP is intervertebral disc degeneration (IVDD). However, pathogenesis is still debated, and ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I decided to run a GH serum test on the current batch of 36iu purple top GH that tested at 41iu from QSC. I counted each vial as 40iu & put 10iu IM in my bicep at 6am and got my blood drawn fasted at 915.
I'll post the results when I get them back. I did take my normal 15iu GH shot sub q last night at 9pm. I've been on 10iu of optis gray tops nightly since September & just added in the extra 5iu nightly of these purple tops when I got them on Tuesday.
For anyone who cares I reconstituted the vial with 3ml of Bac and injected 76 units IM to get the 10 units
I'll post the results when I get them back. I did take my normal 15iu GH shot sub q last night at 9pm. I've been on 10iu of optis gray tops nightly since September & just added in the extra 5iu nightly of these purple tops when I got them on Tuesday.
For anyone who cares I reconstituted the vial with 3ml of Bac and injected 76 units IM to get the 10 units
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Ghoul
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That’ll be a good indicator. Just out of curiosity, have you done a previous serum test using the same method?
The GH from the night before will be long gone so no interference from that.
I have 2 years ago with a batch of Opti orange tops. 10iu in the bicep, the only difference was the bloods were drawn 2 hours post injection instead of 3 hours so not sure how much if a difference that would make.
I pulled a really high score of 43.7, I'm not sure how that would factor into the results I get for this test. Like if I pull a 20 what does that mean if anything in relation to the 43?
Ghoul
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To compare apples to apples, roughly, add 30% to the result from the sample taken at 3 hours.
You think so huh? All the boards say IM it should be peaking at 3 hours and higher than the 2 hr mark. But that's just bro science repeated ad nauseum I know you know more
Ghoul
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It’s surprisingly difficult to get a solid answer on when peak blood concentration is reached. Pharma / science doesn’t care that much, focusing more on whether the treatment works as well subQ, since normies really don’t like IM shots. The studies show IM max serum from 1-6 hours. So claiming 2, or 3 isn’t unreasonable.
But here’s why I lean faster peak applies to us:
The highest theoretical GH serum test result from 10iu injected IM should be about 50 for most people.
Your 2 hour test is close to that. In fact, from the results I’ve seen here, the highest results seem to be at 1-2 hours, and by 3 hours numbers that I remember are lower.
The tests showing 3 hour peaks are glutes, a slower absorbing muscle vs delts.
The fatter the subjects the slower time to peak. Faster peaks in lean subjects. .
That’s about all of my reasoning.
Also any ambiguity is your fault for being an hour late for the last test, lol.
What I am fairly certain of is 1 hour after peak, drop in GH serum test results should be around 30%.
Here’s a cheat sheet on the minutia that affects time to peak, if you’re weird enough to be into this kind of thing:
AlexDavis43
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You're good my man
Average is typically in the 30's
If it came in at ~10, I'd suspect bunk GH or you messed up the blood draw timing (which seems unlikely)
If it came in significantly above 40, I'd suspect overdosed GH
It's called the "quick & dirty GH test" for a reason → it's not super accurate; just a cheap & quick way to see if you have good GH
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