Yep. We can agree on 99% of things and disagree here
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Get the fuck out of my replies you redneck
BamaCrazy
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AlmightyAlpha
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Qsc is probably the first and last source that provides information about the current situation happening over there....we all got fucked. Some of us 2 grand...some 20 grand. It happens. But we'll see what happens in the coming year which I think will be a better horizon for gear heads because there is no way they're not turning labs again soon. Too much money to be made for them.
Ghoul
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Then why wait another year? They don't want to make money now? What's going to be different? Whatever the Chinese govt did to implement the crackdown was extremely effective and put the fear of god into raws manufacturers.
Pretty sure he is just saying we will see how this plays out in the near future in China. Not dissimilar how certain raws would be stopped in production due to sanctions on pollution and then lifted again time and time again. Generally because they don't give a shit.
But this is definitely different.
My theory is the "comeback" is the people in their respective domestic areas decided let's sell all this shit off because we haven't heard shit because everyone is locked up in China. Or perhaps they're starting their own thing with the funds from remaining stock. The switching of warehouses could also be QSC is actually starting a whole new process and things might get going again. And they're waiting for new routes to be put in place. Who tf knows.
Im sure they want to make money now. I just don't think they can at all. Unless someone robs a few freight containers of raw materials intended for the legit manufacturers. I don't see it happening yet.
SkeetSlambone
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Ghoul, you seem to have a pretty broad based knowledge set...when, if ever don't think the details of the QSC or any other crackdown will leak out?
I'm genuinely interested in the details. Maybe it's just morbid curiosity, but it interests me.
Ghoul
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I can go completely psycho with research when something catches my interest (you may have noticed lol), but China is a fucking black hole when it comes to internal law enforcement, and it's not for lack of trying. I have tools that translate Chinese news and searches it, but there's been nothing on the raws crackdown, or vendors.
The closest news on these topics concerned a crackdown on local pharmacies illegally selling certain meds without prescriptions (within China), with most just issued fines, and big offenders "referred" to "The People's" criminal prosecutors.
I've also looked at statements from all the government agencies that could be involved, etc, and absolutely nothing regarding the Raws situation or QSC.
So the answer is, unless someone ties Tracy down and injects truth serum, we'll probably never get the full story.
It's possible China doesn't want to air it's drug precursor "dirty laundry" in a way visible to its foreign critics like the US, which could be used against China.
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dinfar1337
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same bro, i found absolute 0 useful info before the pangea or whatever its called operation came out.
i was not as hardcore as u translating chinese stuff tho lmao
R
readalot
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Yep. We can agree on 99% of things and disagree here
R
readalot
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There is nothing to be found. Best you can get is the heresay of others on the ground some of which i shared here (reliable source).
BP_6
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I used to think China was just a standard communist country. However it seems they are more of a hybrid capitalist/communist country using parts of one or the other whenever it suits them and depending on the situation.
Swolemates365
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So has anyone ordered domestic from Tracy since coming back and actually received?
Many have, some happy some not so happy. I wanted to order but people saying they havent been receiving their packs and the high costs put me off, plus its old stock. I would like to contribute to Tracy's comeback, it would be great to see. But i dont want to order something and have it no show up. And honestly, i dont think qsc is coming back the way they were. Tracys tone doesnt help neither, just seems like id be dealing with someone from the ghetto. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth and until things are smoothed out, i dont think i will be ordering. Not trying to kick dirt on qsc, they were legendary. Just telling it how it is
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dcfreak
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I personally have not ordered from Tracy since Tracy came back. (By the way, based upon differences in language used, I doubt the new Tracy is the same person as the old Tracy. Specifically, the new Tracy writes like a native speaker. The old Tracy wrote like a non-native speaker who was good at English. ) From what I read, many of the people who made new orders received their orders. I have also read a fair number of complaints. I made no attempt to figure out whether the recent complaints appeared founded. I won't purchase from Tracy because he still hasn't shipped my January order. Likewise, even though I was burned by neither SSA nor SRY, if they come back, I won't order from them until I hear that they have fixed things with the people who recently didn't get paid for order.
I agree about QSC being legendary. I chose QSC for a few purchases based upon a reputation for always delivering and the fact that QSC had been delivering for years.
China has long ceased to be a communist country. It's a crony capitalist country and its economic success is based upon the capitalist tendencies outweighing the crony tendencies.
What's your thoughts on the theory that the lack of primo and Mast is due to precursors used in the manufacturing of Fentanyl? Any credence to this?
Ghoul
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I think it's a "sounds good" guess to explain the disappearance of AAS by people who don't seem to understand steroids are controlled scheduled drugs in their own right and don't need to be the "collateral damage" of authorities going after fentanyl.
Fentanyl precursors are small synthetic organic molecules.
Steroids are large, polycyclic molecules built on a completely different structure than fentanyl-type molecules.
Because of that, the reagents, reaction conditions, and synthetic expertise required are entirely different.
It's unlikely the setup to manufacture AAS would be anywhere near fentanyl precursor manufacturing.
They have nothing to do with each other,
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