Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

I agree 100%, which is why I'm skeptical they'd turn the tap back on when they're looking to have the best hand possible going into trade negotiations. That's likely why they cracked down to begin with.
New, more greedy palms greased.
Now prices skyrocket for the same shit.
 
It wouldn't be all that surprising to me to find out that the CCP literally directs most if not all of the international vectors of organized crim stemming out of China. Idk, call me biased, lol. I mean, to their credit, they some have people convinced they wouldn't, which provides the cover they need.
You mean like the 3 letter agencies direct all of it in and around North and South America.... Shocked I tell you. Absolutely stunned!! :-0
 
Anyone truly relying on GLPs (and any other peptide "critical" to their health) may want to lay off the QSC hopium and buy at least some from a supplier with availability now.

My problem is I take 16mg/week of tirz and the most I see ppl selling are 10mg vials at like $160. That will make this $224 a week for me and i cant pull that.
 
My problem is I take 16mg/week of tirz and the most I see ppl selling are 10mg vials at like $160. That will make this $224 a week for me and i cant pull that.

I'm not against "big pharma", but Eli Lilly are uniquely evil. You know damn well they could offer all doses up to 15mg in the $500/4 vial deal. Probobly costs $3 to make. Instead they want to get the hook in, and force people into the $900 pens once they plateau with 10mg doses.

One thing to bear in mind. I've gone back and forth between pharma and UGL, and every time pharma was significantly more potent at the same dose (caught me off guard the first time with strong side effects), So 12.5mg pharma may work like 16mg ugl for you.
 
I hate to be that guy I'm genuinely asking. What happened to just eating ground beef and salad everyday while doing cardio and micro dosing clen if you really have to? I mean I get using GLP1 if you are trying to step on stage at sub 5% or obese as hell. But aren't most guys in here regular fitness enthusiasts who work out anyway? The recipe I mentioned at the start should have you /8/9/10% easy imho.... I dunno. I just don't understand it unless you're a coach potato, don't workout, obese or trying to step on stage for contest prep...
 
I'm not against "big pharma", but Eli Lilly are uniquely evil. You know damn well they could offer all doses up to 15mg in the $500/4 vial deal. Probobly costs $3 to make. Instead they want to get the hook in, and force people into the $900 pens once they plateau with 10mg doses.

One thing to bear in mind. I've gone back and forth between pharma and UGL, and every time pharma was significantly more potent at the same dose (caught me off guard the first time with strong side effects), So 12.5mg pharma may work like 16mg ugl for you.
I agree. Actually at current UGL and Pharma prices it might make since to go the compound pharmacy route.
 
I hate to be that guy I'm genuinely asking. What happened to just eating ground beef and salad everyday while doing cardio and micro dosing clen if you really have to? I mean I get using GLP1 if you are trying to step on stage at sub 5% or obese as hell. But aren't most guys in here regular fitness enthusiasts who work out anyway? The recipe I mentioned at the start should have you /8/9/10% easy imho.... I dunno. I just don't understand it unless you're a coach potato, don't workout, obese or trying to step on stage for contest prep...
Now just imagine doing those exact same things...but not feeling like you are cutting at all. You can take the clen out and have similar results but the clen makes it a bit easier. You can take the GLP out and have the same results but the GLP makes it ALOT easier
 
I hate to be that guy I'm genuinely asking. What happened to just eating ground beef and salad everyday while doing cardio and micro dosing clen if you really have to? I mean I get using GLP1 if you are trying to step on stage at sub 5% or obese as hell. But aren't most guys in here regular fitness enthusiasts who work out anyway? The recipe I mentioned at the start should have you /8/9/10% easy imho.... I dunno. I just don't understand it unless you're a coach potato, don't workout, obese or trying to step on stage for contest prep...

I'll set aside the other health benefits for a sec, that's a complicated topic.

What do you say to the BBs who ask for advice on appetite boosting compounds, because they find it physically impossible to eat enough calories to meet their goals?

Food seems completely unappetizing, their throats close up, get gastric reflux, want to puke (and may do so) at the thought of eating one more bite:

Then, they use one appetite boosting compound or another, and suddenly they can eat plenty more.

Shouldn't they be able to "willpower" through it without using a drug to help, yet it's described as physically and psychologically impossible for them.

I'm not being sarcastic or argumentative, just changing the angle.

If an appetite booster allows them to eat, shouldn't it be possible without that just through willpower? That dynamic seems to indicate there's a powerful energy intake regulating mechanism that's capable of physically and psychologically stop you from eating pretty effectively, and presumably exerts an equally strong effect when it wants you to eat.
 
My problem is I take 16mg/week of tirz and the most I see ppl selling are 10mg vials at like $160. That will make this $224 a week for me and i cant pull that.
Dude, either hit up Peppys or PGB, and you will find 60mg vial kits, for about $350-450 for 10 vials. That is almost a year at max dose, for basically pennies. You will save more than that in reduced food costs.
 
It wouldn't be all that surprising to me to find out that the CCP literally directs most if not all of the international vectors of organized crim stemming out of China. Idk, call me biased, lol. I mean, to their credit, they some have people convinced they wouldn't, which provides the cover they need.
That’s BS. They may turn a blind eye when it’s convenient, nothing else. They do capital control in China, and the fentanyl trade done by the Chinese brokers is a way for the common citizen to circumvent the capital control, which is something the party is against.
 
I hate to be that guy I'm genuinely asking. What happened to just eating ground beef and salad everyday while doing cardio and micro dosing clen if you really have to? I mean I get using GLP1 if you are trying to step on stage at sub 5% or obese as hell. But aren't most guys in here regular fitness enthusiasts who work out anyway? The recipe I mentioned at the start should have you /8/9/10% easy imho.... I dunno. I just don't understand it unless you're a coach potato, don't workout, obese or trying to step on stage for contest prep...
Tirz and Reta, even Sema, are basically injectable willpower. This group of folks here on Meso can’t be against an injectable supplement, can they?
 
That’s BS. They may turn a blind eye when it’s convenient, nothing else. They do capital control in China, and the fentanyl trade done by the Chinese brokers is a way for the common citizen to circumvent the capital control, which is something the party is against.
What's BS? I didn't claim anything with certainty.
 
I have an off meso source that has similar HGH prices to Q, and I've used many kits myself with "feels" falling within expectations. I've been thinking about getting a Jano test, but don't know enough people personally that want to pitch in for a group test and it's hard to send Jano my money when I could just buy like 10 more kits lol. If anyone is interested, PM me.

Iirc @Ateam2023 found an hGH source on AliExpress that tested well.
 
How can Allie express get me pen cartridges,.delivered from China, through customs,.in one week and every Chinese lab takes a goddamn month. And before anyone pipes in, yes, I know it's not Amazon. But if Allie can get pen carts through then the labs gotta up there game.

Ali is much more similar to Amazon than Chinese gear sources.
 
I'll set aside the other health benefits for a sec, that's a complicated topic.

What do you say to the BBs who ask for advice on appetite boosting compounds, because they find it physically impossible to eat enough calories to meet their goals?

Food seems completely unappetizing, their throats close up, get gastric reflux, want to puke (and may do so) at the thought of eating one more bite:

Then, they use one appetite boosting compound or another, and suddenly they can eat plenty more.

Shouldn't they be able to "willpower" through it without using a drug to help, yet it's described as physically and psychologically impossible for them.

I'm not being sarcastic or argumentative, just changing the angle.

If an appetite booster allows them to eat, shouldn't it be possible without that just through willpower? That dynamic seems to indicate there's a powerful energy intake regulating mechanism that's capable of physically and psychologically stop you from eating pretty effectively, and presumably exerts an equally strong effect when it wants you to eat.
I was one of those skinny dudes after some health issues and managed to put it back on, obviously I used PEDs but it wasn't a final solution. I still had to eat clean, go to the gym, actually lift heavy, still do cardio and put in work to gain muscle. Now its about maintaining habits.

Losing weight is a little different, you are consuming less and therefore spending less too (4000 calorie bulk vs 2000 calorie cut), probably lifting less but doing more cardio depending on your final goal. Both sides have a mental aspect to it for sure, but in terms of effort it seems easier to me to lose weight.

What happens when these people come off GLPs but habits haven't changed?
 
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