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[LGOP528]

In your example it fails at self knowledge, not math. Here’s a description of the capability and how it is distinct from the 4o model:

https://openai.com/index/learning-to-reason-with-llms/

In my experience it works quite well. Like any of these tools, it doesn’t absolve one from reasoning and verification, but it certainly accelerates certain activities.

It is quite good at statistics and I am not. In that sense I find it to be beneficial.

Probability and Statistics is no joke, some of the dullest reading I have encountered.

I had to drop it on my first attempt.

 

[readalot]

Probability and Statistics is no joke, some of the dullest reading I have encountered.

I had to drop it on my first attempt.

You still in or finished?

 

[WhyteOwl]

Probability and Statistics is no joke, some of the dullest reading I have encountered.

I had to drop it on my first attempt.

Reminds me of my Stats I professor in college. I still remember the review I left for him. "the textbook had more personality than he did". Or something along those lines.

 

[LGOP528]

Reminds me of my Stats I professor in college. I still remember the review I left for him. "the textbook had more personality than he did". Or something along those lines.

Damn! That sounds like a horrible class. Hopefully it wasn’t after lunch.

 

[LGOP528]

You still in or finished?

Finished.

 

[WhyteOwl]

Damn! That sounds like a horrible class. Hopefully it wasn’t after lunch.

I avoided taking classes before noon. I also avoided waking up before noon.

 

[Trailmixed]

Oh shit Chmuse is here. Delving into the beautiful and fucked up world of AAS I see?

 

[Here2Learn]

Right I understand. I was able to post pretty quickly like all the others after an intro post and a couple other posts. Just saying I have lurked the underground for many years without having an account, been buying from sources for a very long time and just recently created an account.

That is kind of crazy it is open to the public with no account registration.

 

[Evac513]

That is kind of crazy it is open to the public with no account registration.

I agree, I have thought the same thing for so many years.

 

[Middus]

Wrong

Welcome back!

 

[chmuse]

Oh shit Chmuse is here. Delving into the beautiful and fucked up world of AAS I see?

Shh don't blow my cover

 

[Middus]

In your example it fails at self knowledge, not math. Here’s a description of the capability and how it is distinct from the 4o model:

https://openai.com/index/learning-to-reason-with-llms/

In my experience it works quite well. Like any of these tools, it doesn’t absolve one from reasoning and verification, but it certainly accelerates certain activities.

It is quite good at statistics and I am not. In that sense I find it to be beneficial.

To me is it seems Juice's argument is that it's not doing math the way we do math. It has a vast amount of knowledge so it can predict that 1+1 is equal to 2. it's not adding 1 on top of 1. It however has access to models that can help it do math and pull formulae so, same difference. I can see where if it hiccups a 'prediction' it will just throw a garbage result out there

 

[MESO-Rx Administrator]

Hmmm. I am missing something here. QSC open to new members with no post count who don't pay the upgrade fee? Who paid the fee? Policy not enforced? Or "Tracy" comps all the new members' access fee? What am I missing?

You are missing quite a lot because you are wrong about everything here.

 

[zmurphy]

After much deliberating, my magic bumhole says this whole raws situation will blow over in 2 months.

Would love that. Only leave the customs question mark

 

[xxBIGDAWGxx]

You are missing quite a lot because you are wrong about everything here.

LMAO

 

[IronJohnDoe]

Wild! Able to post only to this thread or all of underground?

All of the underground, what can I say?

If I had to wait I would've waited.

Maybe someone knew me from another forum where I posted for 11 years, that's my only speculation.

But I doubt it, who knows, glitch in the matrix?

 

[IronJohnDoe]

Gal. I know it's hard to tell, but I'm not REALLY a fish.

My bad, then I don't want to take away anything from the new lady.

Is not the first time I call a she a he in this forum.

Last time I called a lady "brother" (in my defence she had a clover as an avi)

 

[readalot]

LMAO

Joined Wed. 8 posts. Lemme guess? You paid the upgrade fee?

 

[IronJohnDoe]

Don't worry, I'll research for at least fifteen minutes before I order steroids.


Yep, I've been lurking since QSC went MIA. Created an account so I could react to posts and was sorely disappointed.

Give it some time and you'll be able to react.
I waited some time for that, I could react in other forum sections but NOT in the underground one, then one day it happened.

 

[egruberman]

To me is it seems Juice's argument is that it's not doing math the way we do math. It has a vast amount of knowledge so it can predict that 1+1 is equal to 2. it's not adding 1 on top of 1. It however has access to models that can help it do math and pull formulae so, same difference. I can see where if it hiccups a 'prediction' it will just throw a garbage result out there

He is not wrong, in that sense. The only issue I have with that assertion is that each new model handles things differently. As he mentioned, some models would hand math off to a python interpreter, which is less the case recently. 4o, I think does math in the way that you and he described, by guessing at the result and doing pretty well. 4o1 implements “chain of thought” and has also undergone reinforcement learning specifically for math. As such, it’s quite good, pragmatically speaking and is unlikely to produce a hallucination as a result to a mathematical question.