Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

The issue in my opinion is that without elaborating on the method it wouldn't help people in here as I could say tomorrow that I am 100% sure Tracy is legit or the opposite.
But without knowing how I can be sure it has no value to the community.
Or am I missing something?
I would disclose my proof after I go through a verification process with them, I will not be disclosing my identity for obvious reasons and I will keep my methods private.

I would share my findings and my reasons to believe it is or isn't who they say they are and it's up to the community at that point to make their own decision but it maybe helpful to some if not all.

Oddly enough I've had to do things like this in the past. And I planned on doing this anyways to make sure it is who they say they are or received a green light from others in this community.

So when "Tracy" comes back online to start taking filling and shipping orders and enough time hasn't passed I will share that information and my conclusion here if things aren't already back to normal by that point.

I hope that answers your question.
 
Quite out of the loop as well. This seems to be a Chinese issue with the CCP. What prompted them to crack down on the hormone trade? Pressure from the new US administration?
 
I would disclose my proof after I go through a verification process with them, I will not be disclosing my identity for obvious reasons and I will keep my methods private.

I would share my findings and my reasons to believe it is or isn't who they say they are and it's up to the community at that point to make their own decision but it maybe helpful to some if not all.

Oddly enough I've had to do things like this in the past. And I planned on doing this anyways to make sure it is who they say they are or received a green light from others in this community.

So when "Tracy" comes back online to start taking filling and shipping orders and enough time hasn't passed I will share that information and my conclusion here if things aren't already back to normal by that point.

I hope that answers your question.
So are you saying it was always one person?
I was sure it changed for a period of time.
Maybe he's just Chinese bipolar on tren.
Ive always assumed it was a company with sales reps.
 
So are you saying it was always one person?
I was sure it changed for a period of time.
Maybe he's just Chinese bipolar on tren.
Ive always assumed it was a company with sales reps.
The mood swings were on track with the number of issues, or so it seemed to me. For someone selling gear and doing business not to be doing well at times of stress isn't necessarily out of character.

Might be multiple, I have a hard time honestly believing a chinese UGL would hire a team to handle 1 forum. They really probably don't need the niche of meso users enough to pay multiple salaries, these guys really are a legit company with international sales with solid numbers, not just talking AAS either. Can't be sure either way, what matters is the service provided, let's wait for that.
 
Sound like Tracey talked shit to you and u have salty balls
My balls are salty but that is an entirely different topic. I just find it odd that suddenly Tracy is trying to be buddy buddy and get sympathy. This is business. It always has been and it will continue to be. If you want to be butt buddies with a source who gives no fucks about you and just wants your money, that's your business.

I have done business with QSC in the past and it is possible I would again in the future. I'm not under any illusion of "friendship" or camaraderie though. I know Tracy wants my money and doesn't really give two shits about me. That's fine. If the product is what I'm looking for and of a quality that works for me and the price is right then it is a fair business transaction and that's that.
 
No supplier, even the best ones are your friends. Like you stated, at the end 99.9% of their purpose is to make as much money as they can. If they provide amazing service, it is not because they care, it is because the smart ones know the better their service is, the more customers that will bring them at the end of the day.
You hit the nail on the head. For people who have watched the entire progression of QSC you will find that things have changed quite a bit. All the testing, advanced testing, improvements in products, better pricing, etc. is all business decisions to bring in more customers and make more money. Many of these things are a win-win because we get what we want and Tracy gets more money. That's how business works and that's fine and good. Suddenly pretending to be friends and part of the "community" and that whole vibe I certainly cannot get on board with. You would hope that vendors care about their customers health and well-being to some degree, but I wouldn't count on it. Not in this market.

That's why members sticking together and utilizing a strict vetting process and holding vendors accountable is so important. If you find a good vendor on Meso, don't thank that vender, you can thank all the members who put the work in to hold a high standard and keep accountability in market.
 
So are you saying it was always one person?
I was sure it changed for a period of time.
Maybe he's just Chinese bipolar on tren.
Ive always assumed it was a company with sales reps.
I've been in communications with the same person (not Tracy) for many years. They were also affected by this hack or whatever it is. At the time I didn't ask too many questions

FYI the records are gone, how far back? I'm not sure, but again, the sales records are gone, names and addresses, orders, payment history is gone, if people didn't already know... now you know.

Were they able to recover any of the records? I don't know. Are they in the hands of thieves or law enforcement? Я хз.

They've lost all the records before, actually a few times, but this is different.

I'll verify my main contact and I'll verify my other contact. But I'm going to give them some more time to work things out before reaching out.
 
I've been in communications with the same person (not Tracy) for many years. They were also affected by this hack or whatever it is. At the time I didn't ask too many questions

FYI the records are gone, how far back? I'm not sure, but again, the sales records are gone, names and addresses, orders, payment history is gone, if people didn't already know... now you know.

Were they able to recover any of the records? I don't know. Are they in the hands of thieves or law enforcement? Я хз.

They've lost all the records before, actually a few times, but this is different.

I'll verify my main contact and I'll verify my other contact. But I'm going to give them some more time to work things out before reaching out.
Good thing crypto is based on one giant ledger that can be verified.
 
You hit the nail on the head. For people who have watched the entire progression of QSC you will find that things have changed quite a bit. All the testing, advanced testing, improvements in products, better pricing, etc. is all business decisions to bring in more customers and make more money. Many of these things are a win-win because we get what we want and Tracy gets more money. That's how business works and that's fine and good. Suddenly pretending to be friends and part of the "community" and that whole vibe I certainly cannot get on board with. You would hope that vendors care about their customers health and well-being to some degree, but I wouldn't count on it. Not in this market.

That's why members sticking together and utilizing a strict vetting process and holding vendors accountable is so important. If you find a good vendor on Meso, don't thank that vender, you can thank all the members who put the work in to hold a high standard and keep accountability in market.

QSC was the worst source this board has ever seen. During their first year here they didn’t test products, openly scammed a customer, threatened to dox another, etc, etc, etc . If you had an issue and you went public with it there was a no soup for you policy and you were shit out of luck. They turned it around recently with testing but as you say, it was because it equated to more dollars.

Their cheap prices and apparently being booted from Reddit, which brought that crowd here totally changed the dynamics of Meso. There used to be a brotherhood amongst us. We worked tirelessly vetting and holding sources accountable and few sources actually made the cut. Believe there has only been 2 sources that had a successful run and retired. (Although I hear one didn’t quite retire and got busted.) This place use to not be a source board and was geared towards the members and their fitness journeys. I would love to see a united Meso again. I don’t see it happening with the current group. This place was always a bodybuilding and powerlifting focused forum. Now most are here for weight loss and without a glp-1 they probably wouldn’t even attempt their weight loss journey. Far cry from the work ethic members here once had.

You guys are hitting the nail with being buddies with these sources. It’s sickening and I saw a member actually calling a source daddy this week. Purchase, write a review, do some testing and move on. Calling a source daddy doesn’t make them love you. Truly pathetic and this place used be full of Alphas.
 
Cliffs notes (pretty good tell)...




Now go search for QSC and the former term on here. Notice anything?


Even when prompted with the same term by a member, nope.

You're welcome. Be careful out there folks. Move on.

@MESO-Rx Administrator: consider making some type of cautionary disclaimer on this thread to avoid members losing money in the future?

For example, once source is MIA with unfulfilled orders on certain boards the Admin will make a cautionary announcement.
Ofc someone calling boobs another name can't be the same person... Fuck... I'm split...

Jokes aside even without the paranoia I very much share, we don't know anything at all. The statement we're celebrating literally stated they have no idea when they're coming back, that's supposedly the hyped up for marketing version.

Don't mistake that for "we haven't been royally fucked yet" people. Don't be the first to get a visit, if you can, avoid being the last... This isn't the place to do that currently, even in case that really was what/who we know as Tracy and speaking truthfully.

They pretty much start from zero. Different logistics, prolly different warehouses with mostly new staff atleast in production, with raws already having caused problems before the shutdown. Packaging also has to change, though thank fuck for that, to not get picked by customs for a bit, that might cause problem aswell, see GA leakages.


Don't be stupid, don't let your past experience and wallet make the choice. Neither are worth more than your health or freedom.

I might mass report my comments about XXXXXXXX, I'm getting paranoid, been reading meso for 20h straight.
 
Haven’t been keeping up at all, is Tracy coming back?
Yup, hang tight, probably around the end of the month, maybe March, still getting things back online. Payment processing, payroll and logistics and such. You want to have everything set up before you go back to business as usual. It would be short-sighted to start taking orders now when they still have orders unfulfilled.
 
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