Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[Ghoul]

It's an obvious problem.

But, that's not what is the real problem. The real problem—the one that has immediate impact on AAS & Raws—is the crack-downs/organ harvesting in China. It's whatever is happening in China that's affecting AAS/raw supply here—to us "average" buyers anyway.

You can still order from Temu or whatever. But, AAS and chemicals is what's impacted. It's hard to get reports from China because they're essentially closed-off to the rest of the world. And, if you could, trying to find reports on illegal chemical crack-downs is like a needle-in-a-haystack.

How the trade war shapes up will determine how & when flow from China will start again. If Trump backs off—which I believe he will—the chem companies "should" re-open and start manufacturing again.

For China, this was good timing for bad circumstances because of CNY... everybody just takes their time and enjoys the time off. Meanwhile, Trump needs to get this problem solved... he's got too many fights going on... and, one by one, lawsuit after lawsuit, it's all piling up. That's not good for him so early in his term.

Any conduit that reopens allowing Schedule III AAS from China to easily flow into the country in small packages will allow Schedule II fentanyl and its precursors and analogs (and machine gun parts) in as well.

There won't be any "backing down" to allow that again. Thats just self interested wishful thinking fueled by partisan delusion. It's going to get tighter, not looser from here. Any hole that's discovered will be brief and get slammed shut.

AAS will get in, just like fentanyl will get in. Both will be more difficult to smuggle. One is already hugely profitable for small amounts, the other is barely worth the effort and will have to become more expensive.

$35 kits of test and $200 kits of Primo 200 from China shipped to your door are never coming back.

It's more likely 6 months from now as domestic suppliers find it increasingly difficult to replenish raws, the "Olympics" never end, and it becomes obvious "normal" is not coming back, there will be people saying "I wish I bought in February when shit was so much cheaper."

 

[Tbaz192]

Wild how active this source thread is and it’s barely even source talk lol.

They’ve been gone for a while and the pages keep going and going. What in the!
Classic QSC thread.

 

[glpfun]

Silver lining is that maybe hormones will become too expensive for the looksmaxxing culture popular with teenagers. The timing of cheap steroids and that subculture is really bad. Wait till the media backlash from this.

 

[Evac513]

Wild how active this source thread is and it’s barely even source talk lol.

They’ve been gone for a while and the pages keep going and going. What in the!
Classic QSC thread.

That's because we are waiting for the big return group buy promo when Tracy comes back.

 

[readalot]

looksmaxxing culture popular with teenagers

 

[bigMoJo]

There won't be any "backing down" to allow that again. Thats just self interested wishful thinking fueled by partisan delusion.

I think you're upset I pointed out an actual flaw in someone you obviously like. If you detach yourself from emotion, and look at the track record, one is a big-mouth bully... the other, the real deal.Trump v Xi... my moneys on Xi... Trump will back down... but, he'll "say" and claim a win.

It's going to get tighter, not looser from here. Any hole that's discovered will be brief and get slammed shut.

This is still a good speculation, based on the previous legislation and executive orders. But, NONE has been implemented. What's the hold-up?

AAS will get in, just like fentanyl will get in. Both will be more difficult to smuggle. One is already hugely profitable for small amounts, the other is barely worth the effort and will have to become more expensive.

Only if the "speculation" actually materializes.

$35 kits of test and $200 kits of Primo 200 from China shipped to your door are never coming back.

"[N]ever coming back." That's saying a lot, considering it's been 6 months since Biden's De Minimus Order, and the only thing slowing flow has been from China's end.

It's more likely 6 months from now as domestic suppliers find it increasingly difficult to replenish raws, the "Olympics" never end, and it becomes obvious "normal" is not coming back, there will be people saying "I wish I bought in February when shit was so much cheaper."

So, 6 more months from the previous 6 months? 12 months. Okay... do you hear yourself here?

Relying on Congress, or a President, is like relying on cheating partner to "change their ways."

It sounds like the girlfriend who's boyfriend keeps telling her that he won't cheat anymore. But, he's going to keep cheating, because that's what he does and what he's always done... even before her, and after. It's what "he" does. It's what politicians do.

Don't take this the wrong way brother... I'm just really cynical about these matters. I wouldn't risk not stocking up, and there is a multitude of reasons to do so. But, at the same time, I wouldn't buy-in 100% that the flow of AAS will stop or be stemmed in a dramatic fashion.

 

[noteablequotable]

Rarely do I come across such a perfectly expressed distillation of my own views. It's almost spooky

Because we're right and it's the truth, lol.

I agree, some of the more recent posts about vendors has been super helpful. I purchased a couple things from Nexpath after looking into them. As with all vendors they have their dark past but I saw enough testing outside of the vendor to feel okay.

Not a horrible decision. There are a lot of things to like about Nexaph which is why I'm conflicted about them:

- Card and PayPal payments
- Domestic US shipping (no customs drama)
- Close to CN prices
- Frequent testing (extra results on Telegram)

My #1 piece of advice would be to tag @Cain_SPC on Meso if you have any problems. The super pro and super anti Nexaph spaces generate too much drama. Try to arrange a 3rd party test to check for degradation if you can. Also important to take @Ghoul's advice and filter.

PGB better though and have found a couple solid gb which I haven’t done before. I am kind of wary of anything not domestic at the moment.

PGB is a bit of a pain but I've never heard anything negative about their products.Their risk controls are tight.

People do complain about the fact that they won't disclose their sources but that's to be expected. They do extensive vetting and they're a business; this is their moat.

 

[BrunoES]

If there is money to be made, someone will eventually fill the role. Sooner or later, that's just how it works.

 

[Swolemates365]

They’ll be back, peptides only. I’m just hoping it’s sooner than later!

 

[Texas01]

On my last purchase I said to myself “better go big in case shit gets worse” once paid, shit got worse

 

[AlexDavis43]

Email from where? What is address in email header?

Post a screenshot if true

man you guys are gullible

 

[5thGen]

Time to
Let it go guys!!!!

 

[niqTM]

what I don't understand is most of legal raw powder such as bulk L-Carnitine comes from china. Is that having issues getting into the US too?

 

[Ghoul]

what I don't understand is most of legal raw powder such as bulk L-Carnitine comes from china. Is that having issues getting into the US too?

Only if it's "stealthed", which constitutes illegal "mislabeling".

The bigger problem is the Chinese shipping companies. They are gunshy about accepting packs from sketchy vendors. Without knowing what the "white powder" is, they're the ones risking the six figure penalties now being enforced by CBP for false declarations on the customs forms.

By holding companies like YunExpress responsible, you slowly cut off the shipping lines available to vendors.

One element of the BIDEN executive order on Chinese imports that went into effect recently was that the shipping companies, billion dollar conglomerates that make their money via legit trade, not the tiny amount of contraband, is they must certify the name of the person responsible for each parcel in their cargo container.

A kind of "know your customer" requirement like the law requires of banks to prevent criminal activity.

 

[niqTM]

Only if it's "stealthed", which constitutes illegal "mislabeling".

The bigger problem is the Chinese shipping companies. They are gunshy about accepting packs from sketchy vendors. Without knowing what the "white powder" is, they're the ones risking the six figure penalties now being enforced by CBP for false declarations on the customs forms.

By holding companies like YunExpress responsible, you slowly cut off the shipping lines available to vendors.

One element of the BIDEN executive order on Chinese imports that went into effect recently was that the shipping companies, billion dollar conglomerates that make their money via legit trade, not the tiny amount of contraband, is they must certify the name of the person responsible for each parcel in their cargo container.

A kind of "know your customer" requirement like the law requires of banks to prevent criminal activity.

Like KYC on your crypto account. I get it.

 

[freedom69]

Well I guess this was the one and only time I’ve been fucked from an order. Thankfully it wasn’t a boatload but the last HGH promo they had at the end of Nov put me high and dry after the first pack went MIA. Was supposed to get a reship and that was the last of it. Good while it lasted I guess.

 

[Ghoul]

Well I guess this was the one and only time I’ve been fucked from an order. Thankfully it wasn’t a boatload but the last HGH promo they had at the end of Nov put me high and dry after the first pack went MIA. Was supposed to get a reship and that was the last of it. Good while it lasted I guess.

Sorry bro. QSC was always good if there was no issue, but if anything went wrong that wasn't a clear seizure, they'd often drag their feet and leave you to swing, especially if it wasn't someone making noise where others could see.

 

[skubysnacks]

Time to
Let it go guys!!!!

 

[glpfun]

Sorry bro. QSC was always good if there was no issue, but if anything went wrong that wasn't a clear seizure, they'd often drag their feet and leave you to swing, especially if it wasn't someone making noise where others could see.

Ha that was my #1 advice to people dealing with issues like that, go make a big stink in their thread

 

[Ghoul]

Ha that was my #1 advice to people dealing with issues like that, go make a big stink in their thread

Yeah. It didn't really *bother* me as long as folks understood that was the deal. Impossibly low prices come with shit service.

If 1 in 10 orders went bad it was still a good deal, but pity the guys who made their first orders just before it imploded.