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mok4315
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Oh yeah, I’ve totally got money too. For example, sometimes when I go to Safeway, I buy the 2 pack chicken breasts and not the big savings family pack that probably comes from China. Soooo much money.
egruberman
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I’m not sure how to parse this. I didn’t state that I had any special knowledge of what is or isn’t “quality” as you say. I described the impression that I had from those that use domestic brewers. They may be right.
The quality may be better or not, but it seems to me that people feel that it’s better quality based on the service they receive and the faith they have in the vendor. I haven’t seen any objective measures. Furthermore, that takes time and effort to cultivate that relationship.
People with money want exclusivity? Foolish people with money regularly get fleeced by boutique vendors for the things they don’t understand. I got into UGL gear because I wasn't willing to pay a health optimization clinic a monthly fee to supply me with a $10 vial of test cyp. I could get a doctor to prescribe me just about anything I wanted, but I'd have to renew the prescription every few months, which is a pain in the ass that I'd rather not have to deal with.
That’s an interesting perspective. It’s a consumable or a staple, like toilet paper or laundry detergent which I place an order for once a year. I certainly don't wipe my ass with custom toilet paper nor would my life be improved if I did. That is to say, I have a bidet in each of my bathrooms.
Like the toilet paper and the laundry detergent that I get, the oil that I buy is good enough. It tests well and uses MCT which is about all I care about. I regularly get bloodwork including hs-CRP to monitor how I react to the gear I'm using. As I've mentioned before, I'm going to filter my oil regardless of who it's from. If there's an objective metric by which someone could demonstrate a product from a domestic vendor is somehow superior to the filtered oil that I use, I'd love to know what that is.
If you had moneyyou wouldn't inject Chinese oil into you, because something you can't have back is your health and trust me, if you knew even a second what a quality oil it is, you wouldn't be here boosting that you have enough money to not care and you are buying QSC oils lol
This implies knowledge that you nor anyone else seems to have. I never claimed to know what quality oil is or isn't, thus my question. Health is certainly a concern, which I why I get regular bloodwork.
As for the money I may or may not have, that's tricky. I'm not trying to impress anyone, nor do I consider myself superior to others as a result of my success. I'm simply trying to make the point that affordability is not a concern, but I can't think of any way to prove it that wouldn't appear to be bragging or reveal personal details about myself.
To be clear, I'm not suggesting I have a private yacht somewhere. I have a normal job and a normal house in the SF bay area. I drive a pickup truck. I have no trappings of luxury if you don't consider my collection of tools, which I think of as a luxury. My income, however is at a certain percentile that I can comfortably say, "more than most". That's largely a product of my age and where I am in my career, so not surprising at all.
I guess you never injected quality home brewed gear or you would understand what I'm talking about.
I didn't know until not really a long time ago. So it's not like I'm calling you an idiot for not knowing.
I'll make you few examples, any properly brewed gear using quality carrier oils, a good recipe and properly sterilization procedure will allow you to inject multiple ML of high concentrated gear without feeling anything. I'm talking that the next day if you don't write down where you have injected you can't tell because you feel nothing
I have ppl pin: test C 300 - Masteron E 400 - Test D 500 - Deca 400 - NPP 200 - Tren E 250
And report all the same things: smooth as butter, can't tell where I pinned it, easily absorbed, no knots nothing to report.
Now you do bloods and I know you are quite on top of monitoring your health but there are things that can't be told from bloodwork or at least it takes a long time (in my opinion) before maybe noticing a difference.
This is hypothetical of course but Id you had the money to not care about the cost why wouldn't you try to find the best quality on everything you are injecting into your body?
I assure you almost no UGL use MCT that cost 60$ a liter or organic cold pressed castor oil or any other pharmaceutical quality grade carrier oil.
Does it make a difference? Don't know but sure as hell if money is not problem I would not even think twice to ever buy anything that is not at very high standards.
Can you find me a chinese source that produce that kind of high concentration 0 pip high quality gear?
Unfortunately, unfortunate.
RaddishPork
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You have no idea of what quality is and I'm a bit skeptical about your statement as a results.
What you just said above makes no sense..if you had MONEY and when I say money I mean enough to not care (as you tried to imply, because excuse me we are quite a lot around here and stating you earn more than probably most of us... Well that is something I would not say lightly),
What you would want is quality.
Industrial production is for peasants, ppl with money wants exclusivity and wants what other peasants can't get unless they compromise, so if you had money you would want QUALITY WITHOUT COMPROMISES.
you know how you achieve that? In buying domestic from private/small brewer and paying enough someone to customize your oils, have them being produced with top quality carrier oil, top notch sterile procedure and everything tested.
If you had money
So nope, I call bullshit
This is very untrue actually. There's a bell curve for people who have money and how they spend it.
The people who genuinely have money to spend still save it. I work in finance and I can tell you right now the folks who have that mercedes, corvette, etc. are barely getting by more than half the time. The vast majority of the country doesn't even have 10k in their bank account, yet how many people do you see in big ass houses with nice new cars? I used to only order US domestic sources because of brand loyalty and I was broke as fuck. I make 3x the salary now and would gladly order a bunch of oral raws from China and cap them myself than spend 10x the price to get it from someone who is "cleaner" (it's the same drug). Do you know where your US domestic sources get everything from? Probably one of the dirty chinese labs too.
TRULY rich people cut costs wherever they can. That's how they maintain being truly rich. I REGULARLY deny lawyers, doctors, business owners, etc. financial products because they fuck up their expenses so bad that they can't be trusted to pay it back. "more money more problems" is a very real saying.
Obviously there are outliers like pop icons taking private jets everywhere- but the most financially responsible people in the real world are still driving a paid off toyota camry while the hotshot lawyer is opening multiple credit card lines to buy their custom steroid oils and not get their wife's G Wagon impounded.
If you actually cared about your health that much you wouldn't be taking steroids to begin with. I don't care about the argument and didn't even read the posts before this- but there's a difference between being rich and being wealthy. Rich people go broke to prove that they're rich. Wealthy people live modest lives and pass it down.
I agree with this. There is a reason people that have money."have money"
primojuju
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There are normal people that go into debt to look like millionaires, there are millionaires whose goals are to spend enough to look like billionaires. Then there are the people with fuck you money driving a 2016 camry and shooting QSC test and gh, and they will never let you find out who they are.
Qingdao Sigma Chemicals
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I use myself QSC oils and peptides.
Maybe because I am poor
Maybe because I am poor
Hi Tracy, am I too late to put in a Xmas promo order?I use myself QSC oils and peptides.
Maybe because I am poor
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readalot
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For what? Personal lubricant?
Tracy im going to send you an email, if you have a minute please email me back sending nowI use myself QSC oils and peptides.
Maybe because I am poor
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readalot
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Intelligent, wealthy persons with AAS addiction would never use QSC. Period.
I think its over, BUT I wouldn’t be surprised if Tracy hits us with a new years promo.
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readalot
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Not at the expense of their health, unnecessarily. At least the reasonably intelligent ones.
Yeah nice story too bad you are talking in general I'm talking regarding a specific thing.
If you have an hobby and you are rich are you gonna spend your money for low quality shit or get the best of the best that you can afford?
I personally know few millionaires and sure as hell for the stuff they care and love they do spend quite a lot of money, completely understandable what the fuck have you earned all those money if you can't afford a BETTER life than other ppl?
See that's the issue, you think with better I mean just more expensive stuff or more stuff in general.
Nope. I don't know what you like but for example have you ever bought something made of leather? So you can buy for example a LV leather bag (cool sure, lots of money) but not really that high quality and still mass produced (kinda), or you can go to one of those few niche almost extinct shop that works leather in a way where they can't even push the quantity of a big brand but the quality... Oh boy the quality
Food? Same shit, you can go to do food shopping in Walmart or you can go to small producers where their life is providing quality food for just a few and the price well the price is very high but the taste and the emotions that you will experience through that food
You can be financially minded without being a fucking hobo or a wannabe billionaire without having the money for it and go broke trying to look like one.
It's not like we are talking about spending millions on gear anyway, we are talking pocket money for any 1% earner of any country that is not a third world country.
So be fucking real.
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readalot
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Simple false dilemma as presented above. Thanks for illuminating door number 3.Yeah nice story too bad you are talking in general I'm talking regarding a specific thing.
If you have an hobby and you are rich are you gonna spend your money for low quality shit or get the best of the best that you can afford?
I personally know few millionaires and sure as hell for the stuff they care and love they do spend quite a lot of money, completely understandable what the fuck have you earned all those money if you can't afford a BETTER life than other ppl?
See that's the issue, you think with better I mean just more expensive stuff or more stuff in general.
Nope. I don't know what you like but for example have you ever bought something made of leather? So you can buy for example a LV leather bag (cool sure, lots of money) but not really that high quality and still mass produced (kinda), or you can go to one of those few niche almost extinct shop that works leather in a way where they can't even push the quantity of a big brand but the quality... Oh boy the quality
Food? Same shit, you can go to do food shopping in Walmart or you can go to small producers where their life is providing quality food for just a few and the price well the price is very high but the taste and the emotions that you will experience through that food
You can be financially minded without being a fucking hobo or a wannabe billionaire without having the money for it and go broke trying to look like one.
egruberman
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So, subjective measures only. I don't really have a problem with PIP. I tend to stick to test C 250mg/ml and primo E 200mg/ml and generally doubt I'd really ever push harder than 2ml/day. I've no need for higher concentration compounds and if I did, that might spark my interest in brewing.
It just needs to be "good enough" as far as I'm concerned, or more specifically, I care that what I get is what it's claimed to be. QSC gear gets a lot of scrutiny. "Quality" according to your definition is subjective, in which case finding the best quality gear sounds like a time consuming process. As I mentioned earlier, it's a staple. I just want to place an order and forget about it.
In theory, sure, but what is the standard against which you're measuring?
I understand your point and your perspective. I gather that's what got you into brewing. I have different needs one of which is that I spend as little time and effort on those aspects of my life that don't yield value. Maybe I could find a vendor that offers gear with better feels by my subjective standard, but doing so sounds like a time consuming process. I'm never going to compete in a show and I'm close enough to death that I only have a few blasts left and enough gear on hand for that. If I had a lifetime of bodybuilding ahead of me, I imagine I would think differently.
Sure I'm not saying you are an idiot for buying Chinese oils but I wouldn't use your arguments about having money and still buying Chinese oils.
You explained it beautifully in the last part of your message above. Can't argue with that but THAT is a very specific reason that is very personal and comes from your own perspective.
It's like being a cocaine addict and buying it at the corner of a street from a very reliable guy but still it's a corner of a street.
egruberman
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This is how foolish rich people get fleeced for money. This is commonplace in the world of single malt whisky where it's easy to drop $1k on some stupid limited release no age statement single malt from Diageo or some such and inevitably these people take a sip and utter the word, "smooooooth". These are the same people that would never touch a 12yo bottle of Old Pulteney nor be able to tell you why it's an interesting whisky.
Financially prudent people tend to look for value.
More money doesn't make a better life. At some point having a sufficient amount of money will make most of the problems that other people experience go away. That frees one to pursue other interests, some of which may lead to a better, more satisfying life.
This is hilarious. I cook most every meal and buy the best quality food I can find. I may spend $1500-2000 a month at most. Friend of mine sold a business for $22m, wife drives an Audi R8 and is one of those people that won't drink a bottle of single malt that costs less than $1k. They shop for most of their food at Costco. Point being, different folks prioritize different things.
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