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[Nattydaddy215]

I hear you and I don't disagree. But, due to my location, Serostim isn't readily available and when it is, the price is ridiculous. I've been experimenting and generic sides for me (mainly water retention for me, I've been lucky with other sides so far) are directly tied to sugar in my diet. When I keep diet clean, not a major issue... Break diet and eat shit for a weekend and my feet are like sausages!

I have suspected the the lethargy which has slowly gotten worse, is tied to thyroid, so will be getting bloods done in the next week.

Not saying working around the sides is the best option, its out of necessity.

I'm never going to compete again and certainly won't earn $ from this, so its a bit hard for me to justify the cost of pharma GH. For the price point of generics, I'm more then happy with the results. Part of the trade off is also dealing with the sides.

I remember seeing someone comment on Chase's youtube video about the pharm vs generic, and he claimed to be in the field and made a pretty good case for how they might be different in the manufacturing processes used... I'm sure I screen shot it, will see if I can dig it up (Might be lost in a sea of screenshots on my phone though)

My 3 yr old son was put on real hgh our insurance pays for it one kit of hgh from the USA pharmacy is 9000 dollars

 

[baxter0312]

My 3 yr old son was put on real hgh our insurance pays for it one kit of hgh from the USA pharmacy is 9000 dollars

humatrope?

 

[egruberman]

What did you change ?

I ramped up the dose too quickly and got pretty bad CTS and some swelling in my hands. I tried all kinds of things like dandelion root, ALA, upping potassium and magnesium, dropping sodium, but the sides never went away entirely. Eventually, I just came off for a few weeks, and got back on, ramping the dose back up slowly to where I'm at presently with no sides and no ancillaries required.

 

[Moulefruit]

Order of 24th April well received yesterday, Mast E in international, smooth and easy to order as habitual, now waiting the Ment E arranged in production

 

[nightprowler7]

My 3 yr old son was put on real hgh our insurance pays for it one kit of hgh from the USA pharmacy is 9000 dollars

Since when does us pharma hgh come in kits?

 

[Ghoul]

Since when does us pharma hgh come in kits?

 

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

Since when does us pharma hgh come in kits?

Read more, speak less…..

 

[gobig2]

A lot of the water retention from generic comes from the overdosed kits. If running equal value of pharm vs generic iu I really didnt see a big difference. When I used to sell the the grey tops with labels that were dosed correctly at 10iu per vial vs say medi's (black tops) that were overdosed people def would say the blacks would give them more water retention. They were tested next to each other and only dif was greys correct dosed blacks overdosed. A lot wont put into factor a overdosed vial and will run it the same ius as a correctly dosed vial however the overdosed vial say is 18iu per vial. So if they are taking 5iu's 50 tick on a 100iu insulin pin that will be 9ius. However the correct dosed vial same draw up will only be 5iu.

 

[gobig2]

to add we had plenty plenty of stuff tested over the years back then. Only thing in the vial was hgh and Mannitol. Also the Alphabet people tested it too.

 

[nightprowler7]

Read more, speak less…..

Yes clearly a kit, not a pen.

Imagine being this stupid

 

[Ghoul]

Yes clearly a kit, not a pen.

Imagine being this stupid

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Since when does us pharma hgh come in kits?

Serostim comes in kits broski

 

[nightprowler7]

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Dosing & Pen Selection | HCP | Humatrope® (somatropin) for injection

Learn how to calculate the appropriate dose of Humatrope for your patients, discover which pen works best for each patient and more.

humatrope.lilly.com

"Pen"

"Cartridge"


But OK. Who cares to debate a fat person

 

[Ghoul]

Dosing & Pen Selection | HCP | Humatrope® (somatropin) for injection

Learn how to calculate the appropriate dose of Humatrope for your patients, discover which pen works best for each patient and more.

humatrope.lilly.com

"Pen"

"Cartridge"


But OK. Who cares to debate a fat person

The OP said the "kit" cost $7000 at the pharmacy.

You questioned the accuracy of that statement.

The pharmacy lists it as a "kit".

The insurance company calls it a "kit".

The pharma company prints the word "kit" on the box.

To the every viewer of these posts, you don't look bad because you were mistaken, but because you're stubbornly clinging to your stupidity.

 

[nightprowler7]

Serostim comes in kits broski

I thought we were discussing humatrope. Never saw serostim.

Ok I was wrong people. That's right I said it

I gotta up the tren anyway because I feel I'm not getting it's full rage affects while arguing with randoms online just yet. I haven't thrown my phone in nearly month

 

[Ghoul]

I thought we were discussing humatrope. Never saw serostim.

Ok I was wrong people. That's right I said it

I gotta up the tren anyway because I feel I'm not getting it's full rage affects while arguing with randoms online just yet. I haven't thrown my phone in nearly month

I used to think "Oh crap, I've crossed the line with that post, gonna hear from the mods soon...".

Eventually I realized they must've moved "the line" a lot further out there to account for tren lol.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I gotta up the tren anyway

 

[nightprowler7]

I used to think "Oh crap, I've crossed the line with that post, gonna hear from the mods soon...".

Eventually I realized they must've moved "the line" a lot further out there to account for tren lol.

I think around spring the mods start taking into account how much tren is being consumed by the forums user base lol

 

[BrokenOne]

My 3 yr old son was put on real hgh our insurance pays for it one kit of hgh from the USA pharmacy is 9000 dollars

US health system is fucked beyond all belief! Every company is at the trough feeding off the end users pocket! Created an entire system that legalizes theft! Then spends billions of $ on propaganda telling people how bad any other system would be!

I like those US pharmacies that are starting to pop up more (it seems), cost plus $10. Was watching an interview with a guy running them and he said they had expanded 5 stores in no time and were making a killing and were FAR cheaper then all the other options! End user saved a fortune and he made a fortune!

 

[BrokenOne]

I ramped up the dose too quickly and got pretty bad CTS and some swelling in my hands. I tried all kinds of things like dandelion root, ALA, upping potassium and magnesium, dropping sodium, but the sides never went away entirely. Eventually, I just came off for a few weeks, and got back on, ramping the dose back up slowly to where I'm at presently with no sides and no ancillaries required.

My trigger seems to be sugar (or it might be something generally found used with sugary foods). If I eat clean, and I mean clean, I've got zero sides. I have a HEAP of salt in my diet and its never a issue.

Eat 1/4 of a cheesecake... Feet and lower legs turn into sausages!

I'm pretty convinced after experimenting with it that generic HGH sides are tied to diet. I also think there are a host of triggers for different people. It seems common that salt is a trigger for a LOT of people. Sugar is mine. I think there will be many more as well.

Would be great to see a list of foods compiled that trigger HGH sides for people, then it would give generic users a great resource to start removing 1 by 1 from their diet to see if it helps with their sides and they can increase dosage if they wanted.